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enough is enough - ep lost all reason

category: residue [glöplog]
I dig scene degrees !
=D
added on the 2005-03-24 14:52:01 by willbe willbe
i want to be king of the home for the mentally retarded!
added on the 2005-03-24 15:01:21 by earx earx
I just love the title, "..1 hour / 60 mins..." ;)

and, uh, yeah, he's weird. why is he taking this so damn seriously?

to me, it looks like he's actually correcting himself, like the demos-as-animations-idea. i didn't read the entire mail, but i saw something about him saying that releasing demos as animations should be a complement to releasing the demo as an .exe, which sounds like a good idea, and pouet has supported that for some time now. not to mention the amiga-scene..

when i read his article i got the idea that we should stop coding completely and only do animations, along with some other stupid ideas.

i think ep was really childish in the last (?) issue of hugi, where he instead of writing a followup article, he started flaming people by name (nick), copying stuff mostly from pouet's bbs. so his point of view got again published in hugi. i certainly hope that hugi will stop publishing such shit and be a mag for information, not one-sided flamewar.
added on the 2005-03-24 15:11:18 by fox fox
close this thread NOW
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added on the 2005-03-24 16:32:14 by okkie okkie
People who have read Hugi #16 know that Frenzy is the King of the Scene.
added on the 2005-03-24 16:49:16 by Adok Adok
read the sign adok!

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added on the 2005-03-24 16:50:54 by okkie okkie
give us one more of this really punny signs!
added on the 2005-03-24 17:16:41 by noname noname
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added on the 2005-03-24 17:28:19 by okkie okkie
Okkie aka the King of Googling Images!
added on the 2005-03-24 18:08:40 by Zest Zest
That one is quite brilliant :D
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added on the 2005-03-24 19:39:14 by madMixx madMixx
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added on the 2005-03-24 21:38:30 by Jcl Jcl
I think I should collect all those Pouet images, either the "it's a geeks life" ones or the STFU ones, and make a demo similar to "The Horror" =)
added on the 2005-03-25 21:51:25 by Optimus Optimus
Yeah. Do that and call it "The Boredom".
added on the 2005-03-25 22:28:40 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
LOL
added on the 2005-03-25 23:00:53 by Optimus Optimus
okki3> YOU ARE JUST ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE MUSIC MAKING THE BZH WAY!!. yeye mr grandmother
added on the 2005-03-26 03:53:07 by quisten quisten
AND I DID QUISTEN!!!! I DID!!!! AND THEY NEVER EVER SHOWED UP!

oh well, always another party ;D
added on the 2005-03-28 22:33:56 by okkie okkie
Given that this is posted so close to April 1st, it for some reason strikes me as a possible April Fool's joke.

Or is that just me?
added on the 2005-03-29 04:15:53 by DeMeritus DeMeritus
I want to see a picture of ep's black girlfriend :D
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added on the 2005-03-30 10:18:51 by Zest Zest
No man would date a woman that sexy. It would intimidate them.
THE FACTS

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The lie * is abusing you with for more than 10 years:
He has **never** been death threatened and manipulate you all with strong emotions.
He hides the truth about what is the Scene and probably get money from you.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Hamlet / William Shakespeare

First, check truthfulness of every argument and every statement I make.
I advise you to do generally the same for everything you consider important:
don't build walls on moving sands, and ensure to build very strong knowledge step by step based on factual evidence.

You may think: EP = a madman, a criminal, a pityful looser, a psychopath, ... And? A killer on the loose?
What if you had such an image? Yes YOU!
Because this may happen to YOU, if YOU don't ask for justice and look for evidence as I'm not anything listed before.

In fact, what would you do if you get death threatened?
File a claim: has * done that? NO! Why? Because his 'claim' has no grounds!!!

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Why Dipswitch has created this bbs topic?
With his slanderous PAiN article, he was loosing credibility as said here http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=1889&page=1
He talks about polemic but what he really wrote are lies.
Note again how he confused the issue and divert you from his guilt:
he was inspired by a guy nobody as a clue in the scene 'kurt tucholsky'.
Same technic as used in is PAiN article: lots of diversion in style, but strong bullshit in argumentation.
So he needed to fight back with a bigger lie: forget his PAiN article, he got death threatened guys, do you believe it?
A lie to hide a lie: propagandist technic.

* acted as a spin doctor, see how to identify that kind of propaganda here http://www.prwatch.org/content/pr-watch-archives

Why a reply more than 10 years after PAiN 12/04 release?
Because I feel pain from Dipswitch's lies since then and need to get rid of it ASAP, same for its consequences.
Reading his PAiN's article 14 years ago, induced a huge amount of electricity coming from the bottom back of my spine.
Something I've never felt before nor after, like if a knife was entered by force there.
It may happen to you too, so continue reading to learn more.

ANALYSIS

1/ Why the Slap article still causes me pain? What's intolerable?

The words who hurt: traitor, treason, dictator, anti-technocrat, money
The 'arguments': I'm into the Scene for making money out of you, not knowing anything about real time, want to turn the whole scene into a bunch of animators, am a taste dictator.
The style: every argument is loaded with off topic politics and biased while non factual.
The structure: each sentence and word in the Dipswitch / * article is like a bullet, the whole article a machine gun burst, every sentence made to hurt, to kill.
Every ideas is altering and twisting completely the original meaning of my thoughts: nothing said about me is true, his article is a pack of lies and * put words in my mouth.
His conclusion: * thrown me to the wolves and since then they harrass or bully me which is not acceptable and legally open to attack.

The first question you should ask yourself is Why * / Dipswitch wrote such article?
Why he has written it this way?
What does he want to achieve? Silence.
Why? Because he hides something.
You'll discover what later on, keep reading.

2/ Who is *? What are his interests? What are his interests in the Scene?

Let's try to find using the web:

https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=dipswitch+blackmaiden
https://www.google.fr/search?q=dipswitch+blackmaiden

BTW, * was a surname written on Orange Juice back then.
Let's try that:

https://www.google.fr/search?q=dipswitch+*

Then clicking on one of his photo, you can find: http://www.wherevent.com/detail/*-black-maiden-hi-fi-qlosterstuffje
So he is called *.
Let's try that with google: https://www.google.fr/search?q=*
Bingo ->
Now you know he is called *

Let's try to find out who is he outside the Scene: let's read some of his historian work to get an idea of his personality.
As he told us being an historian of Russia on Pouet, let's try with the name of one of his work extracted from the list higher:

Quote:
Representations and Practices of Revolutionary Internationalism in Early Soviet Society, 1917-1927

https://www.google.fr/?q=Representations+and+Practices+of+Revolutionary+Internat ionalism+in+Early+Soviet+Society%2C+1917-1927

Well after a few tries this work isn't available for reading online, but on the list there is this PDF: From »World Soviet« to »Fatherland of All Proletarians ...
You should go first to the top domain to see what the site deals with: http://www.inter-disciplines.org/index.php/indi

Quote:
InterDisciplines. Journal of History and Sociology

-> ***Interesting: sociology, so * / Dipswitch studies not only History but also Sociology: it goes together as History is the history of human relationships.***
You should have a look at the PDF now: http://www.inter-disciplines.org/index.php/indi/article/download/53/43

Just by reading the title "From »World Soviet« to »Fatherland of All Proletarians.« Anticipated World Society and Global Thinking in Early Soviet Russia"
you understand 2 things:

1. * is well versed into deep text understanding, reading and writing and indeed here we find he is a Doctor (Dr. des. *):
http://www.hist.uzh.ch/fachbereiche/neuzeit/lehrstuehle/dommann/team/projektmit arbeitende/albert.html
(backup at https://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=4b6734c1a4b8d2bbadcc6 cc2ee4adae1)

2. * is aware of what is an empire (World Society, Global Thinking): different words, same thing as when everybody think the same in a 'world society', it's an Empire.

On the same page you can read what he did during the period he wrote the "Slap in the face of Scene" article:

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2004-2009

Studentische Hilfskraft (ab 2007: Wissenschaftliche Hilfskraft) am Mannheimer Zentrum für Europäische Sozialforschung im Forschungsprojekt „Die Einwirkung der Komintern auf das westeuropäische Parteiensystem“ (Leitung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Hermann Weber, Dr. Bernhard H. Bayerlein).

2001-2007

Magisterstudium der Osteuropäischen Geschichte, Slawistik und Mittlerer und Neuerer Geschichte an der Universität zu Köln.


So you understand that he had already achieved quite a lot in term of mastering langage and understanding texts back then, and that in several languages: German / English / Russian.
He had also read a lot about history and thus about politics: history is also and mainly the history of politics.
So he knew what is mass manipulation and the way it's done: through media, rethoric, texts and using bold lies.

You can see he has an hand in the Scene too:

Quote:
Seit 2000: "Evoke", Festival für digitale Kunst und Kultur (Köln), Mitveranstalter.


And he's knowledgeable about Piracy too: "Mimetic Gift Economy in Network Society: A Global History of Software Piracy as Subculture, 1980-1995“

Let's go to another subject but related to * political research:

http://www.bundism.net/

Now you can have a look at SlengPung to see what he does outside his historian works:

Using the dipswitch handle, you can find that here also he turns the tables ('music'), drink a lot, is quite fat,
eat junk food and play with electronics while making the fool.

So let's sum up what you have found in 15 minutes:

* was born in Moscow and has a link with Russia as shown by the topic of his studies in History, is doing music,
does ascii arts in Cologne and knows a lot about politics: remember the conclusion of his article "the EP ideas are dangerous",
so knows the power of ideas.

He his also interested by Jewish Labor Bund, * is a Jewish surname so you can assume he is jew and russian: a mixture of strong nationalities and characters.

He has a long personal experience in living within several cultures as he is an expat and Pouët let you know he speaks more or less 7 languages cf
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=15780 and search there "added on the 2005-02-05 15:07:21 by dipswitch".

Thus he has no problem understanding even badly written english (my 2004 article), as he knows about different way of puting an idea into words,
and is used seeing the world through different perspectives: historians he reads have always different ones.
He is also an organiser of Scene and Music events. He knows a lot about Sociology:
so knows again how to manipulate people because he knows how they behave, politicians works he reads all the time is just about that (History = Money, Sex and Power).

DEVELOPMENT: YOU'VE BEEN ABUSED

Let's demolish one by one each of his 'arguments'

Who gets money from Sceners and sponsors? Me or *?
Not me and I challenge anybody to find a proof I did or do.

Is * making money out of you at events he organises?
If I were you, at the next Evoke, I would demand to see the books.
Why? Because he's prompt to bash others of being interested in money however he is the first to have contact with your and sponsors' money.

FYI, I had no intention of making money with the Scene:
people interested in money build a big business not target a niche market of 3000 people scattered all over the world.
But check that facts and anything else in this article with reality and make your own opinion.

Read correctly my original 2004 article, you'll not find a sentence or an idea about me making money:
Quote:
Web sites which host the demos will make money selling burned CD/DVD with demos inside them, this money will help them paying the hosting costs and new harddrives.

That the **only** sentence about money I wrote and never mentionned I would make a profit, did I?
NO! Check again.

But for *, it's a very different story: as an organizer he is the first link with sponsors
Intel is 53 on the Fortune 500 cf http://fortune.com/fortune500/intel-corporation-53/

Intel is the main party sponsor:
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sponsor |ˈspänsər|
noun
1 a person or organization that provides funds for a project or activity carried out by another, in particular
• an individual or organization that pays some or all of the costs involved in staging a sporting or artistic event in return for advertising.
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So you Sceners make Intel and party sponsors' advertising:
demos are the ads for hardware and technologies and people going to parties will work or is already probably working in a related industry,
so train for almost free by making demos on their spare time which induced sales of Intel hardware.

How much does Intel pays for a party like DemoDays or Evoke? Don't know and you may ask * and * for details.

For BreakPoint 2009 however, you can see here, how much Intel has not paid, it would if the recession wasn't on, and had before 2009:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090204015643/http://pouet.net/
backup at https://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=b5204e425680d771ba02a beb91bb509b

59K Euros, 59 000 Euros, not bad:
in 2003 when I released my article I was paid 966 Euros gross per month so 11592 Euros gross per year, you see then that I'm a 'Bourgeois'...
(* was born in Moscow, one of the most expensive city in the world, while living in Germany, the most wealthy nation in Europe and now live in Switzerland, the country with the best standard of living on earth.
So who is the Bourgeois?)

How have these 59K been used? Ask to see the books. Same for each party.
For TRUST demand complete accountability on Scene money.

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Animation: Where do you see it'll kill realtime? * make it up.
"ANIMATIONS IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR DEMO DISTRIBUTION"
It's great to have a demo as an anim to play it on any hardware able too. I wrote nothing else.

Animations have always been a way to graphic innovation, just search on youtube with platform name animation keywords.
For example on the C64: Dallas Intro (Season 8) by Crossbow of Crest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLv7UosQXs&hspart=ddc&hsimp=yhs-ecosia_ 03&vm=p
On the A500: The famous juggler https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amiga+juggler
At a time, all famous games where displaying an intro featuring an animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMphSivB24c
This has prepared people for nowadays games which are better than those intros during the whole game.

Since my article and unrelated to, demoscene.tv has been released, thousands of demos have been captured and uploaded on youtube and is it killing the Scene?
NO!

Taste dictatorship: try harder Dipctator.
Where I defined my taste standard?
Nowhere!

But look at the US culture which is everywhere around you due to NATO, EU memberships and history: the winner takes it all and imposes its culture to the loosers and Europeans are the loosers of WWII.

The 'culture' imposed by the US multinational industries is fascist in essence: it's a Corporatocracy and corruption is everywhere while uniformity in behaviours and thinking is growing (neo-liberalism).

See these living norms effects on our scene 'hero' as a blattant example of such cultural effect:

Obesity:
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Back Pain:
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Cultural Conditionning:
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Childish Behaviour:
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Tobacco addiction:
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EMF everywhere:
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Have a look around and ask yourself: Where this product / service has been created first and then popularised and became mass consumption? Do your research, you'll be surprised.
FYI Computers are from the USA (PC, Mac, Atari, Commodore, the main game and demo platforms are US, the others are from the UK or Japan influenced by the US, the CPU, GPU, themes are always US.
They have found this way how to turn sand / sillicium into gold), same for TV, supermarkets, the Web, fast food, coca cola, burgers, Star Wars, action movies, DVD, Cartoons, Ads, Marketing, …
***The illusion culture: a new religion, information or dreams / The big pull of wool over your eyes***

In fact the point this article is in English, is itself the blatant proof we are americanized: this is the language of the empire.
That doesn't mean that every nation is itself without external influence not a gilded cage: France is a dictatorship and freedom like anywhere is an illusion, living norms exist here too, even more.

-For health matters: if you think eating Gluten from Wheat by Kg / pounds per year is a good idea, then make your research in nutrition.
Same if you think swallowing Acesulfame K, Aspartame, and anything chemically engineered in your beverage and food is great, think again and do your research (check Coca Cola content).
Same for most of what is mass produced and industrialised in term of food: Do you know how is raised and slaughtered chickens and beef? Do your research.
Read the labels, and ask yourself: Is it healthy? What is it made of? Why is it there? Is my intestine and body able to use it? Could I get the same taste and nutrition another way? In a more natural way?

When I've seen these moving meat loafs, those human wrecks at Slengpung, I get in the urgency to write an article to save you all from certain death:
fat around your body is there to block acids burning your organs and bones, which means your fat bodies are full of acid toxins at present.
And such load has impact on your biomechanic too as your bones are wearing out faster than they should.
Don't come shouting at 40 or 50 if you look very much older than you should and have the pains of an old granny. You've been warned on time.
Ha and your intestine is creating 80% of the neurotransmitters.
Which means what you eat is responsible for how you think, so you're probably not completely in control of that at the moment.

The main idea of my article published in Hugi 29 was about goodwill and goodness for people.
Now if you want to follow a jerk, lying through his teeth and manipulating you, go with Dipswitch / *.
If you want to follow somebody perhaps making money out of you and want to look like an average american joe, then don't change anything, you're in.

If you want something different, becaming you for example, read books about nutrition, sleep, health then practice.
YES it's more important than staring at a screen see https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=effect+of+screen+on+health
YES it's political:
Do you want to be surrounded by slaves hypnotised by a screen, eating junk food, listening to junk music?
Do you want complete uniformity or be surrounded by interesting, diverse thinking and acting people?

My misbehavior

You'll tell me that I've spammed people and the BBS:
yes and those spammed know exactly why they were.
And the BBS was spammed because when you move from a 4300 inhabitants city in southern France to the 5 most expensive world city London is and get attacked one day by a so called 'terrorist' attack cf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YeBWrYivwA
and another day by a bunch of youngsters, with your head bleeding you're not supposed to be calm and quiet in front of stupid people wasting their time and asking for trouble talking about my situation back then on a non moderated BBS.
They knew nothing about my situation and was judging me...

Same about a letter sent to Pouet hoster regarding the death of a former scener.
Death announced, IMHO, in a very light and non respectful way on Pouët:
What kind of values such community have?
On Slengpung and on Pouët, the values back then weren't 'exactly' the same as mine: love for nature, recycling, eating health food, having a love for the outdoors, …

Who is objectively * / Dipswitch

* is a proven liar, an hypocrite, a manipulator.
And the conclusion of his article turns you, his followers, into bullies.
So you're all liable for prosecution.
That's include all PAiN's editors too: according to PAiN rules they have been consulted for every article publication.
That means according to their rules they have agreed on Dipswitch's view on my article.
Vision opposite to the sense of mine: just download Hugi 29 and Pain 12/04, print both my and his article, and compare.
Remember that Pouët is also filled with proofs of the bullying I suffered.

So what is * hiding?
The real objective of the demo scene: another front for the industry and another mass media manipulation.
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The Scene is a small subset of the biggest abstract art movement.
Abstract art which has been proven to be a CIA weapon, a political weapon cf
[]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
http://www.dylanfox.net/?p=2069
http://www.openculture.com/2013/04/how_the_cia_turned_american_abstract_expressi onism_into_cold_war_propaganda.html

Abstract art is diversion: Art is supposed to be communication, but abstract art isn't.
Nowadays, TV broadcast, SmartPhones, Computers, Tablets, Movie, Games are all medias and mingle.
Entertainment is everywhere and meanwhile time is spent on useless things while your freedoms are melting.

And yes I'm proodly an anti-technocrat / anti-EU / anti-state / anti-money / anti-BCE / anti-cartel / ...

Quote:
technocrat |ˈteknəˌkrat|
• a member of a technically skilled elite.


Technics looks like rituals and make you all think and act similar to automatons, robots, not sexy.
Not good at all for life: Germany has low birthrates for years, because living here is a bureaucratic and technical nightmare. Due to this technical mindset imposed by the economic dominants.
The big industrial oligarchs (IG Farben, Thyssen, Mohn family, ...) running your life.
The technocrats technic is to put thousands rules in place to hide the mere fact you became more and more slaves.
Method being a remnant of past catholic bible and religion presents elsewhere in Europe too and in the US of course (CIA).

* has no clue about programming, and couldn't explain clearly and scientifically what real time is about.
So he is a different technocrat than coders (the best are no more in the Scene since a long time: TLB, OXG).
We use this "technocrat" adjective for people in the ECB or Brussels usually not for engineers.

His rethoric about real time is dull:
apart from the fact I've never heard of virtual time but maybe it's because we are now all the time living in it.
That is in front of a screen: we are all turned into clercs...

And real time is real brainwashing: while you look like monks reading the bible in front of the screen,
you don't see the money behemoths behind all the hardware and software you use (Microsoft, Apple, Sun, Adobe, Google, Dell, Intel, Foxconn, ...) making money with you and building the 1984 gilded cage we live / survive in.

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* in fact masters the art of lying and manipulating: his rethoric technic.

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What * does in the Scene?
He does a lot and his perhaps in one way or another making money out of you, question himself, demand proofs he don't.

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Conclusion:
You look for an enemy, for a traitor? Look no further, ask Dispwitch / * for answers: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Investigate also his relationship with Unlock and all the organizers sponsors scene money circus.
The clearer the financial situation will be, the better the Scene will become.
Remember: always follows the money.

Maybe in fact the scene is just a love affair, after all this is what the NWO is based on, isn't it?

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Contact also the love duo's sponsors to check if the behaviors and values displayed at Slengpung thus at parties are compliant with their code of conducts, ethics, values and image they want their customers to see.
This includes also Pouët BBS and prods comments, articles in diskmags, any scene communication in fact.

Want to ask * alias Dipswitch / BlackMaiden / Mood Plateau / PAiN Editor / Evoke Orga some questions?
Contact him at * and *

Maybe he will offer you is latest video production for free:

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Last point:
If I were Scamp / Simon Kissel, who I'm not, I would tell all diskmag editors that they have one week from now to get their data backed up and that they'll have to host their diskmags elsewhere.

Why?

For several good reasons:

1st Any press is fully independent and thus have free speech when it's independent from its publisher that means when it owns his publisher.
This is not the case in the Scene and Scamp and scene.org are the publishers of all diskmags.
When you're in such situation, as an editor you are dependent of Scamp and scene.org for letting you publish something.

They may have high morals and ethics, they have political ideas and values, and may not be OK publishing Nazi or Eugenist propaganda (Hugi's Adok article, El Afghano, ...), which is in perfect compliance with their ethics.
Same for Dipswitch article which is factually a pack of lies and slandering material.
They may tolerate it, however this is not in agreement with Scene values,
and it's obvious some people abuse of the kindness of others in the Scene.

2nd As a politically involved individual, when Scamp power will grow and it will,
many people will became interested in his activities like for example in the Scene.
Journalists for example will comb pouet and scene.org for stories to sell to their audience
and if Germany is like any other countries in EU, there are a press specialised in gossip, scoop for their headlines.
This could cause public embarassment (think of Hugi's issues)
or even more, imagine if his company became public with stock holders...

3rd Diskmags are dinosaurs: the basic function of them is to provide Scene information.
Most of which is non interesting apart from the well done sceners interviews which aren't common anymore.

Who seriously will make the effort to find a diskmag using several clicks on pouet or scene.org, download it, unpack it, run it (if it runs because with the amount of windows versions around it's not sure and people use tablets, smartphones and less and less laptops and desktop PC / Mac), and then read it whereas the basic need is provided in a far handy way but the world wide web on all platforms?

Diskmags keep info in obscure formats obsolete and unknown by most, and not searchable by search engines, this is simply not technologically up to date.

Coders don't get structured info in them, they use books and go to specialised web site, same for graphicians, 3D animators, musicians, designers, ...

This is the third reason all those editors have to move to the web:
they will have a higher audience there and the natural selection will be higher thus competition will force them to innovate and be great while legal (or they maybe attacked legally or forced to obey by their host rules).

Yes it's costly, this is the cost of freedom:
to reduce bandwidth usage, they'll have to use a simple layout, maybe full ascii text only with just a few pictures and nothing else.

Authors and editors will have there more interaction with various people, which will bring new ideas thus fresh content.

4thDiskmags consumers are text readers looking for info.
They don't care about 3D intro, lavish graphics, mp3 musics, 3D menus and other bells and whistle.
They care about meaning, stories, info not found elsewhere.

And this content isn't got using plans already written: filling a canned interview list of questions isn't doing it.

Good interviews are prepared by thorough research of the history of the interviewees,
reading everything you can get about them.
Then cunning and interesting questions are prepared,
then the interview is done via Skype and while the main plan will have to be followed,
the intelligent interviewer will ask in real time non written questions relevant to what will just have been answered according to all the context he would have researched before and his personnal culture,
which he has to have.

The web will enable those editors and authors to make something far more interesting than what they are used to with closed format diskmags are:
there are no limit there and they'll have to take responsability for what they publish, which is great.

EP / CosMik

references:
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How to save the Scene by EP CosmiK
https://files.scene.org/view/mags/hugi/hugi29.zip
pdf backup at https://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=4a94273d09a15f1f99199 911336f0d8c

A Slap In The Face Of Scene by * aka Dipswitch / BlackMaiden / Pain Editor / Pouet Glop Operator
https://files.scene.org/view/mags/pain/2004/pain1204.zip
pdf backup at https://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=2315379749e5f82ffcf27 518c2d2c4ff
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