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Perhaps you should go back too sleep Jcl! :)
added on the 2005-08-16 15:36:40 by ekoli ekoli
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If you want to make Orb'ish ambient dub, you need a mixer and an echo (delay) effect.
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The sound source isn't that important, you could use a minidisc with a stolen reggae loop on the other channel and weird samples from synths and TV on the other channel. Then just flick the channels on and off and adjust the echo feedback & length.


ha ha I think there's a little more to The Orb than that... :)
renoise is the only good music program out there because it is the only music software that combines the following short list of indispensable features for music making:

- it can load wayfinder-fleetwoodimac.it
- it can zap all patterns (retaining all samples)
- it can load an mp3 of, for instance, david hasselhoff's "Du".
- it can play this mp3 at a slightly higher pitch (say, 6 semitones) with just a keypress (literally)!

and there you have it, all the ingredients for a partycompo winning happy hardcore tune! i know of no other program that can load and zap fleetwood imac *and* play mp3s at high pitches, therefore it's really not a hard choice. so stop all that silly reason babble, reason just doesn't cut it!!
added on the 2005-08-16 21:22:10 by skrebbel skrebbel
i have to agree with skrebbel, reason isnt all that fantastic. though, i see the matter from a different angle.

to be honest, reason takes LOADS of patience. it's not like i need loops that other people made, but i really dislike when i cant get my creativity out in time. whenever i use reason, this is the case. i'm sure it's great if you spend 5 years learning every function, but in the mean time i'd rather use something that's actually useful.

biggest hint of today: ableton live.
and make sure you get the mgtriggergate vst. mashuporama!
added on the 2005-08-17 04:31:18 by gemini gemini
I've found Reason to be reasonably fast, fun, and quick to learn. It's easy to understand the function of all "those buttons" really by reading some documents or making a patch from the ground-up. If you can't even make sense of Reason, you'll be totally lost in anything else too.

And yeah, another vote for Ableton Live if you want to go the VSTi / recording route. Like Reason it has a playful let's-see-what-happens-when-we-turn-these-knobs sort of attitude and a clean interface.

In the end you can approximate the same music in any music software, really. Just try a lot of them out and see what suits your style and preference best.
added on the 2005-08-17 05:32:58 by cats cats
parapete: IMO it's still a better way to start doing ambient dub than Reason :-). Obiviously The Orb has a lot more channels than two in their huge digital mixer, and they're really good at what they do, but you can't deny that they use a lot of stolen reggaeloops and TV-samples... And mostly what makes it "interesting" is mad tweaking around with the parameters of the echo... And there are other artists going around doing it with minidiscs.
added on the 2005-08-17 08:50:57 by deetsay deetsay
...and while I'm on the defensive here, when I said "The sound source isn't that important", I didn't mean that the loops aren't important, of course they are the most important thing, but it doesn't matter if you're playing them from cassette, vinyl, minidisc, tape reels or a sound card. The effects don't have to be in sync with the "main loop", you can make them have a rhythm of their own with the echo...
added on the 2005-08-17 09:07:33 by deetsay deetsay
I second deetsay, any tool goes as long as you have ideas. Nevertheless, I'd go for a tracker if you can't play (or have) any midi device: compared to the rest, trackers are straightforward, flexible and cheap as fuck.
With time, you'll start recocgnizing which kind of software/hardware really fits your needs...
added on the 2005-08-17 10:17:10 by dixan dixan
trackers ftw
added on the 2005-08-18 09:30:22 by nightbeat nightbeat

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