which graphics card?

category: general [glöplog]

my system has a 3 years old graphics adapter. it's a GeForce 6600 (I think from a retailer called club3d). With the recent demo releases i often saw performance bottlenecks. I'm a bit confused by the massive diversity of graphics adapters on the market. I personally always liked Nvidia and would like to buy a newer model. but what graphics adapter to buy? I want to spend at most 100EUR. any thoughts on this?

added on the 2009-01-02 15:09:05 by twh twh
8800 GTX. Very good for its price. Don't even think about getting ATI, they suck.
added on the 2009-01-02 15:11:32 by pommak pommak
Really? I am quite happy with my new ATI card :)
i just checked my official hardware dealer , seems 8800 GTX are no more for sale. 8800 GT, GS and so ok but no GTX....
added on the 2009-01-02 15:17:02 by Tigrou Tigrou
ati 4670. Nvidia sucks at the moment.
added on the 2009-01-02 15:19:16 by noby noby
ati sucks for drivers , if i remember you must install NET framewrok and CCC which is a big gaz factory
and for linux its sucks also :(
added on the 2009-01-02 15:23:49 by Tigrou Tigrou
i see no problems with their drivers
added on the 2009-01-02 15:27:38 by noby noby
a 9800GT should cost about 120e these days
ATI 4670/4850. But if your system is 3 years old, you'll very probably be CPU-bound anyway...
ATIs drivers suck, but there's no need to install the CCC. I always used the free ATItool. Also very recently AMD open-sourced their R600/700 drivers, so there should be some progress concerning OS 3D drivers. The proprietary drivers are ok (as in "working more or less").
added on the 2009-01-02 15:33:09 by raer raer
Geforce 9800s are ok too...
added on the 2009-01-02 15:33:46 by raer raer
Don't even think about buying an old 8800gts/gtx, old power hungry tech etc.
Get some 9600gso/4670/9600gt/4830/9800gt. nvidia drivers suck, but you'll run more demos on them..
added on the 2009-01-02 15:41:29 by Psycho Psycho
nvidia drivers sucks? :P
added on the 2009-01-02 16:59:17 by pera pera
the nvidia control sucks donkey balls. it seems to be made for complete idiots now, which always confuses me and prevents me from finding anything... not much better than the CCC.
added on the 2009-01-02 17:06:07 by raer raer
There was, and always will be, only one sensible graphics card: the CGA!!!!oneone
added on the 2009-01-02 17:16:14 by Joghurt Joghurt
I think about buying a 9500 GT... any comments on that? It's around 50 EUR. What is the 9x-series vs. 8x-series about? Some kind of generation?

What I like so much about Nvidia is their driver-concept. One archive - all cards. What do you want more?
added on the 2009-01-02 19:27:51 by twh twh
If you don't want to spend too much, get a 8800 (it's still a very good card imo) or a 9600 GT.

Reall avoid the 9500 GT, it's utter crap.
added on the 2009-01-02 19:35:56 by keops keops
yup...9500 is crap !
and nvidia-drivers really really sukk but the only thing i need them for is after installing an OS to set the standard-screen-resolution,haha.
what all others said...8800 or 9600...but dont get one of the GS-versions ;)
xfx does a good job...providing good possibilities to overclock aswell.
get the xfx 9600 gt...its about 85-95€ !

nvidia drivers sucks

can someone explain me ?
added on the 2009-01-02 19:53:37 by Tigrou Tigrou
excellent. thank you guys!!
added on the 2009-01-02 20:19:27 by twh twh
It would be funny to bump some year old threads about hardware recommendation.
added on the 2009-01-02 21:43:39 by Calexico Calexico
can you has PCI-Express?
added on the 2009-01-02 22:15:57 by r0XX0r r0XX0r
I just saw that the Geforce 8800 GT is PCIe. I have a MSI K8N board with AGP. That obviously does not work then. What's now the right alternative?
added on the 2009-01-02 23:05:06 by twh twh
The G92 based 8800s are fine, but they have all been renamed (8800gs->9600gso, 8800gt->9800gt, 8800gts->9800gtx(more or less)) for 5+ months now, so generally you wont find them, and I would really stay away from the G80 based compared to more modern offerings. One of the 9600s would be a good choice within the price bracket, and you'll probably be too cpu bound with more.
"nvidia driver concept: One archive - all cards" - say what?! thas was 3+ years ago, now nvidia drops regular support pretty fast. Try go to this page and select different products: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us (it's not even that bad right now, as the 178 was unusually widespread). For instance even my half year old 8600 wasn't supported in the much hyped "bigbang2" driver.
And saying they suck is a way to get the trolls out :) but some things i don't like:
-a pretty regular bsod reason
-bending/breaking standards (like in "we know better", intentional bugs or whatever you'd call it)
-irregular updates, meaning running betas most of the time (they are improving atm, but as said often only for the very latest cards)
-and ccc over nv control panel any time - again you live in the past (ie the reputation from the first half? year of slow and bloated CCC on slow and bloated .net))

Better compatibility comes from more aggressive developer relations (now including demo boxes;), not the drivers.
All that said, the competition has hardened because of the now quite even marketshares, and more or less all cards are selling at competitive prices now, so if you prefer nvidia, it's perfectly fine buying that, you won't pay overprice for the mindshare anymore. (as when they still tried to sell 9800gtx for 40% more than 4850)
added on the 2009-01-02 23:12:37 by Psycho Psycho
AGP -> then I would consider replacing the motherboard.
If you stay it you should buy an ati card, as you won't get anything newer than a 7600/7800 otherwise, and while the 7800 may offer a half decent performance, it would imho be quite stupid not to buy a SM4 card (and a more modern architecture etc). I would go for the 3650 - the 3850 is almost twice as fast but don't throw too much money after that old rig on something you can't use when replacing the motherboard.
Ohh.. and btw.. the driver support for the AGP cards is said to be considerable worse, as they're not really official offerings..
added on the 2009-01-02 23:21:06 by Psycho Psycho
crap. And I thought it was as easy as replacing the graphics card. now I can check prices for mainboards too. Hopefully I must not replace the processor. It's an Athlon 64.
added on the 2009-01-02 23:24:53 by twh twh