help identify this bitmap font

category: gfx [glöplog]
Can anyone identify the origin of this font and tell who made it first?

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"Font nr 062" which is hosted here, says it comes from a compactdisk menu by Automation but doesnt specify who painted/pixeled it.

A search for #062 says:

Painted by ? and comes from a compactdisk menu by Automation.

Problem is I found a C64 demo alongside the Automation prods which released in the same year also using the same font:

DYTEC Cracktro 13 (pouet) which is the c64 crack for Atomino
Atari ST - Automation Compact Disk Menu #497 (pouet) 1990 release
Atari ST - Automation Compact Disk Menu #495 (YT)

I cant tell who created what. I see the same font used in multiple prods, font packs and intros. This one has a comment that says the scroll font was done by red sector.

leaning towards Roy/SAC or Dynamic Technologies - Dytec

Roy/SAC lulz. It does indeed look like a Red Sector font, also similar fonts in Horizon cracktros I think. But maybe someone with C64 scene knowledge has an older source for it :)
added on the 2012-11-29 18:45:55 by keito keito
It's used in many RSI demos yeah, and no doubt many others by other teams :) it's at least 20 years old and still fantastic!
added on the 2012-11-29 19:31:10 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
I track it down to January 1989. The font is probably done by Vectrex and Shark the master of Scoopex. (at least they credited the gfx in Scoopex Just Filled - intro). Revenge of Babbnaasen credits the font to "Scoopex?" so that's where I got the lead..

added on the 2012-11-29 22:08:48 by crcd crcd
Ha, quite a funny scrolltext in that SCX intro :) Nice work crcd, it does look like the same font!
added on the 2012-11-29 22:13:59 by keito keito
Thanks crcd. The Scoopex pouet page says January 1989 but the video says it was released Sept 1989.

I found some Vision Factory cracktros that predates both the Scoopex and DYNTEC prods. all using the same font

Micro Prose Soccer Cracktro by vision factory May 27 1989
Savage by vision factory june 1989
Powerslaves party demo by vision factory july 1989
Scoopex: Just Filled Youtube=Sept 1989 vs Pouet=January 1989
fighter bomber cracktro by vision factory december 1989
Revenge of babbnaasen by Redsector 1990
1990 by Pirates 1991

vision factory is winning. scoopex a close second. red sector third.
vision factory rulez hard.
added on the 2012-11-30 17:38:32 by keito keito
fo shizzle.
added on the 2012-11-30 18:04:09 by reed reed
its definitely Vision Factory...
...i had that VF-sinescroller-intro as source-code, there have been credits in the code as comments on top. i cant remember the name of the maker tho :( but i do still know it was credited to a VF-member!
i had that font beneath the source-code aswell btw. so the source had all of its includes and it worked flawlessly! was back in 1991 or maybe 92...i got like 50 disks of sourcecodes including include-files...watched into some few , then copied em over! ;) didnt need em, but this was between em for sure.
Vision Factory rules. mystery solved. thx all.
crcd has the facts straight. If the release date of the Scoopex prod isn't early enough (well, one of them is!), obviously Scoopex didn't release it first. Strange that scrolltext takes credit for the font. The only lead in the scrolltext is that it's released before Amiga '89 in Köln. BitWorld's records for that party start at Amiga '90.

It could also be ripped from a game.

I hope I don't swear in church, but I think the font is rather mundane and on the ugly side compared to later fonts from Scoopex. Do you ask for some history essay? :)
added on the 2012-12-01 04:17:21 by Photon Photon
I ask to credit use of the font in Chalcogens and future wild prod for the Revision 2013
OK. It's likely that Amiga -89 was in November, and nobody would write "see you there" more than half a year earlier. The origin is related to the authors of the sourcedisk that got spread to all these groups, not to the groups who used it.
added on the 2012-12-02 16:35:40 by Photon Photon