Hugi online editions get no love?
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That's why I dare to ask! :-)
last time i tried to make love with a magazine, i hurt my dick.
hArDy,
Relax. These web dumps don't replace the original executable or even detract from your viewing experience of that. Adok, Magic, and contributors, didn't work any less hard on Hugi because of these. My decision to make these dumps nicer to look at and easier to read can't force you to use them and I wouldn't want them to. You're still completely free to continue to download and run the diskmag.
However, there are good reasons to make a web-accessible version of a diskmag. Firstly, it can then be indexed by search engines. Second, those who don't have access to the platforms on which a diskmag runs, those who would have to set up and configure a VM or emulator, or those who just don't care to bother booting all that up all the time, would find a web version more accessible. This doesn't mean they respect the original any less. Also, someone who might not otherwise open a diskmag might take a peek into the web version. The web version might not have the same great layout or ambiance (music)* of the original package, but it still shares something really important with the original: content. Many fewer people would open the original diskmag if no effort was spent on the content. Lastly, I'll also "bet" that in some cases it would be more convenient to copy out content, such as from programming articles, between the online diskmag dump and any person's IDEs or editors on their preferred platform.
Buuuut, none of those are what I thought of when I started this. They're just totally awesome side-benefits. I do web stuff quite a bit and while I will admit I'm not the best guy in the world at it, I think I do a very passable job. (A bit short of standing on the rooftop and yelling "I am great!") The online dumps of Hugi had been noted on the Pouet homepage a day or so before, so I checked them out again (I believe I had seen one before), and decided that they could certainly be more accessible for anyone else who decides to check them out later. It seems like a worthwhile task to me, even if it's not necessarily a quick one. If you choose to spend that same passage of time making demos, that's okay with me :)
* It is not particularly hard to play music in webpages. However, most web surfers don't seem to like pages that play music unless they ask them to (or it's a site expressly for that purpose), even if the music is good. If you want music while surfing the online edition, pick up a copy of the original soundtrack and pop it in to your favorite music player. You could even read articles to "Rock With Wolfenstein" from the safety of your home, and nobody would judge you. ;)
Relax. These web dumps don't replace the original executable or even detract from your viewing experience of that. Adok, Magic, and contributors, didn't work any less hard on Hugi because of these. My decision to make these dumps nicer to look at and easier to read can't force you to use them and I wouldn't want them to. You're still completely free to continue to download and run the diskmag.
However, there are good reasons to make a web-accessible version of a diskmag. Firstly, it can then be indexed by search engines. Second, those who don't have access to the platforms on which a diskmag runs, those who would have to set up and configure a VM or emulator, or those who just don't care to bother booting all that up all the time, would find a web version more accessible. This doesn't mean they respect the original any less. Also, someone who might not otherwise open a diskmag might take a peek into the web version. The web version might not have the same great layout or ambiance (music)* of the original package, but it still shares something really important with the original: content. Many fewer people would open the original diskmag if no effort was spent on the content. Lastly, I'll also "bet" that in some cases it would be more convenient to copy out content, such as from programming articles, between the online diskmag dump and any person's IDEs or editors on their preferred platform.
Buuuut, none of those are what I thought of when I started this. They're just totally awesome side-benefits. I do web stuff quite a bit and while I will admit I'm not the best guy in the world at it, I think I do a very passable job. (A bit short of standing on the rooftop and yelling "I am great!") The online dumps of Hugi had been noted on the Pouet homepage a day or so before, so I checked them out again (I believe I had seen one before), and decided that they could certainly be more accessible for anyone else who decides to check them out later. It seems like a worthwhile task to me, even if it's not necessarily a quick one. If you choose to spend that same passage of time making demos, that's okay with me :)
* It is not particularly hard to play music in webpages. However, most web surfers don't seem to like pages that play music unless they ask them to (or it's a site expressly for that purpose), even if the music is good. If you want music while surfing the online edition, pick up a copy of the original soundtrack and pop it in to your favorite music player. You could even read articles to "Rock With Wolfenstein" from the safety of your home, and nobody would judge you. ;)
I have never read Hugi, but will do, at least i'll a close look tothe coding articles.
A .zip file of all those would be yummy! :D
A .zip file of all those would be yummy! :D
What AMcBain said, and thanks to you and articles writers!
Issue 38 is in the works and will first be released as executable on Windows and Amiga os4 ! Wanna support us ? Contact us!
See the online versions as extra service. To reach more public for example. Or to read on tablet or phone. But indeed it does not replace the executable experience with the music, gfx and illustration/photo discriptions and better formatted articles.
@Baah: thanx :)
@AMcBain: thanx for your help!
See the online versions as extra service. To reach more public for example. Or to read on tablet or phone. But indeed it does not replace the executable experience with the music, gfx and illustration/photo discriptions and better formatted articles.
@Baah: thanx :)
@AMcBain: thanx for your help!
All articles converted for Hugi #33. I moved it to http://temps.asmcbain.net/hugi/hugi33/ but I set up a softlink on disk to keep the old path going. Any new conversions will be under the new path.
It is available as a tar.gz that unpacks to about 1 Mb. It should be good to go. In theory I replaced all the absolute paths to the original Hugi resources with relative ones so if all the existing images were copied in to the unpacked tar.gz directory it would just work. (but test that out before blowing anything away!)
Eventually I'll take down the live demo, as I don't really want to be a permanent (and non-standard_ mirror. Not that I don't have the resources, but some people have complaints about my server being slow, and the downtime (which is already somewhat minimal, but when you're hosting Nectarine themes, it's really obvious when you're down ...). At any rate, it should stay up for a while as this project continues. Just don't wait until the unknown last minute to grab the archive if you want it!
It is available as a tar.gz that unpacks to about 1 Mb. It should be good to go. In theory I replaced all the absolute paths to the original Hugi resources with relative ones so if all the existing images were copied in to the unpacked tar.gz directory it would just work. (but test that out before blowing anything away!)
Eventually I'll take down the live demo, as I don't really want to be a permanent (and non-standard_ mirror. Not that I don't have the resources, but some people have complaints about my server being slow, and the downtime (which is already somewhat minimal, but when you're hosting Nectarine themes, it's really obvious when you're down ...). At any rate, it should stay up for a while as this project continues. Just don't wait until the unknown last minute to grab the archive if you want it!
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i did like 18 4ks in 4 years!
18*4 und der Tag gehört Dir.
baah: The coding articles are available as ZIP here. You run the diskmag and if you want to save the articles to HTML, press F2. Voilà!
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In theory I replaced all the absolute paths to the original Hugi resources with relative ones [...]
Related, if you find some images with the wrong path that don't load on the live version, they'll be just fine in the tar.gz when the images are placed in the directory. It's just due to an absolute path goober I did accidentally. I don't think there should be any, but ... :)
Also, only some first bit of articles (those done before I automated the initial cleanups and maybe some of the interviews and such?) have alt attributes on the images. That can't be automated so somewhere along the line I just stopped doing it. I probably should go back and fix that, but there's 93 files in there (impressive!) and while not all have images, some have more than one. :P
(It probably also wouldn't hurt to recheck those I did do, to make sure they're right ... I already know the cheeky one on the Panic Room screenshot is wrong, it is mentioned in the article contrary to what I thought at the time ...)
AMcBain: Check out this. I've extracted your tgz into this directory. Apparently some image references have been messed up (I don't know why), but all in all it looks very good.
D'oh! I guess I'll regenerate the tar.gz file. I could have sworn the copy I archived had the removed path prefixes :( This is what I get for trying to manage a demo version and then package it up differently. However, I've got an idea so I don't have to do that next time ...
Anyway, if you download the tar.gz again it should have all relative paths in it now to the local directory. Again, no images in there just the converted files.
Anyway, if you download the tar.gz again it should have all relative paths in it now to the local directory. Again, no images in there just the converted files.
Now the image references are OK. Thank you very much for your work! If you want to do the same with other issues of Hugi, of course I'll be grateful.
@All: Your feedback? (Here's the link again.)
@All: Your feedback? (Here's the link again.)
Cool. I'll see what I can do about more. :) Probably not as fast as this one so I don't burn out.
Chrome didn't seem to like my lightbox script, and it didn't work quite right on first load (with uncached images) in Firefox. So I fixed it. Just replace the one you got from the tar.gz with this one. Thankfully it's just a one file change.
OK. I didn't even notice that. (I am a Chrome user.)
Oh. Well, it didn't seem to want to work for me on two computers with Chrome, but then again, Chrome hates me on this computer. If my computer has been running too long it might not want to load pages (solid color, no tab crash) or load the inspector. :(
Anyway, thanks for updating it.
Anyway, thanks for updating it.
i vote for icons. own icon for programming article, own for interview, etc... it's easier to find the shit one is lookin for...
