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some heavy 3d scenes here, but they're quite beautiful. and there's really a lot of stuff in it, the intro goes on and on and on. i like it |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by melw |
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Boring to death. Some people fell asleep during Sonnet. That tells just about everything. |
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atmospheric. |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by bhead |
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Some good ideas but the result isn't. Too long and ugly textures. Sucking up the partypeople. (or i'm just jealous). |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by kurli |
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well, it's not fastpaced like most demos are at the moment, instead it's slow and beautiful. I enjoyed it very much ;) |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by ryg |
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These 3State folks are GODS. Even though some people don't like nature demo/intros.. this is just a wonderful piece of art. |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by rydi |
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Yet more wussy feminine euro-poetry. But the visuals and music make up for it. How couldn't I praise it? |
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godlike |
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added on the 2001-08-05 by fra |
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beautiful and well thought-out, long but not boring at all. I adore it.
though admittedly this is a production that's best experienced on monitor; on the big screen it didn't work quite so well - the colors looked brash and the morphing borders seemed silly (amazing how much better that looks on monitor!)
still it was very disappointing to see some people jeer at this while it was shown. the audience at asm01 was a bunch of total idiots.
anyway... if I had to think of something that bothers me here, it's the texts. are they necessary? most of the time "poetry" in demos feels like the authors don't quite rely on their visuals and try to masquerade them with text overlays. which is completely unnecessary here... |
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thats a great one. i hope it will soon be ahead of that more than strange antimoney in the charts :) |
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erm yes! |
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hm, seeing it for the 3rd time it gets pretty boring and you recognize that it's actually quite pointless. but oh well. |
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let's celebrate nature.
cool tune |
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added on the 2001-08-06 by neurox |
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i actually fell asleep during this intro. |
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added on the 2001-08-06 by rjv |
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Very good intro. Ok yeah, maybe a bit too long, but you have to see it anyway. 3state rulez. |
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Tried to watch it 3 times.. (including during the compo) and ehrm.. no.. once i fell asleep during the 5mins loading time.. and with the 1ghz at asm i could make it almost the first season.. but .. never more. |
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you guys have a very short attention span.. go watch mtv. |
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added on the 2001-08-07 by _-_-__ |
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oh yeah right.. you are just... SO SMART ! |
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flad: Vic's tune is in fact not a chiptune... it contains about 2mb of samples :) |
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Still, this tune is a bit of a downpoint, as it just sounds too chippy. With the power of realtime synthesis, a much more fitting, atmospheric tune would have been possible...
But anyway, a really cool intro which i definitely enjoyed to watch, even if it's slow here and there.
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added on the 2001-08-07 by kb_ |
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This product makes you happy ;) |
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added on the 2001-08-07 by Fzool |
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for some reason the intro crashes on my amd 1200mhz with a geforce2mx (newest drivers and windows2000). |
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sorry to say that the module totally ruined it for me (sorry vic)
never the less, very lovely landscapes and such..
btw, is it a 4chnl mod? :)
sure sounded like one in headphones
oh and kids, dont watch sonnet on a tnt2pci :P
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added on the 2001-08-08 by jelly |
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comment on kb's post:
chippy ? apart from the excessive sinewave abuse here and there i dont hear anything 'chippy' about it .. but then again i never saw the whole intro :) |
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added on the 2001-08-08 by jelly |
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j_ and macaw, a final version fixing most (all?) crash-problems and the hideous soundpanning-bugs should be out soonish. Size-optimizing, you gotta love it. |
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lovely visuals, really quite impressive that they packed so much in. maybe a bit dull in places, but when the autumn kicks in, it shows some real style.
but the music is below what it should be. maybe its not a chip, maybe it has 2mb of samples, but they apparently weren't very good samples. =) of course its hard to get a long tune in an intro, but still, something a bit higher quality was expected.
otherwise, marvelous. |
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added on the 2001-08-10 by smash |
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another great improvement for the final would be a higher resolution for most of the textures... |
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one of the most boring ones at asm. |
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added on the 2001-08-10 by nosfe |
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BTW, this is the first ever NON-Finnish PC intro to win at Assembly. Odd, huh? Maybe that's why some ppl thought Tripfish 2 should've won. :)
Oh well.. if you have a short attention span or hate the outdoors, I guess you won't like this. Also, I wish the samples were better, Vic had some great ideas in his tune and it could've been better with the right samples. |
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Marvellous...
watch it, FEEL it |
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sagacity... hm? sizeoptimizing?
does that mean that we are not the only ones who think that final version should be smaller anymore? :) |
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added on the 2001-08-10 by ryg |
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ryg: it means that I had to hack to get it in 64k :)
I don't really care about the size of final versions, as long as they work. |
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A very nice intro, but at the same time it's quite long and with little "content" so to speak. Didn't like the music either. In the end I was pretty bored, which in my eyes, makes it an "OK" production.
BTW; was it supposed to go all flatshaded at the end? |
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i like the topic of sonnet, but the intro is way to looong. the music (four channels!?) is unbelieveably bad for a song done by vic. it ruins the whole atmosphere. |
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added on the 2001-08-11 by a-move |
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a-move: the music probably has incorrect panning, which should be fixed in the final. this is also the reason why it ends up sounding like a 4-channel mod. |
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It could have been something if it was shorter, faster (it's creepy on my p3 450 TNT2 machine) and with a more fitting and atmospheric tune. |
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added on the 2001-08-15 by dixan |
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3state loves to experiment with styles, and I like that. But I can't really say I like this one.
I pressed escape after a minute or so, and left it at that.
It's not *that* pretty, suffers from over-the-top design tidbits (the frame, for instance is fresh, but was annoying after a while) and so deliberately long...I liked the tune (as a chiptune) though.
Sonnet was a bold move from the previous 3state stuff, but a move that left me really wondering what they smoke (crack?) during their meetings =) |
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something i don't understand shifter, how "a minute or so" is too long? |
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added on the 2001-08-15 by _-_-__ |
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Play sonnet and you'll find out.
Seriously, I didn't use a stopwatch to see when I lost interest, but one or two scenes after the grid o' green spikes (grass, apparently) I pressed the upper left key on my keyboard.
Ah, did i mention that the progress bar was not in that minute or so? |
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'I' don't need to play sonnet (doesn't run on my machine anyway) but i enjoyed watching it at asm. clearly it has character, it is slow paced, surely not the typical rgb color fast paced tunnels and weird metaballs transversed by wild cameras.. but it's coherent, and i found, enjoyable, as long as you adapt your own pace to the intro's pace, and you give it a chance. (of course it's like <a href="http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=313">the fulcrum</a>, a production that i'm not going to watch every week)
3state are not 'smoking crack' ... |
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added on the 2001-08-16 by _-_-__ |
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'I' don't need to play sonnet (doesn't run on my machine anyway) but i enjoyed watching it at asm. clearly it has character, it is slow paced, surely not the typical rgb color fast paced tunnels and weird metaballs transversed by wild cameras.. but it's coherent, and i found, enjoyable, as long as you adapt your own pace to the intro's pace, and you give it a chance. (of course it's like <a href="http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=313">the fulcrum</a>, a production that i'm not going to watch every week)
3state are not 'smoking crack' ... |
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added on the 2001-08-16 by _-_-__ |
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w00ps :) and i meant, the fulcrum |
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added on the 2001-08-16 by _-_-__ |
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I know they don't smoke crack, they're quite sweet-looking at demo parties. (Sarcasm doesn't pay off here, I guess)
And Fulcrum...ah, it's a brilliant demo. The start may not be fast paced, but that is not the point: In Fulcrum you were rewarded for the slow advancement with brilliant code, graphics and overall design. Sonnet simply doesn't have the 'pull' to justify the crawl of progression. (The scenes aren't very earth-shattering, and the (suspiciously visualice-like) typeface won't help that)
And before you start: No, that's not a lack of attention span, just a matter of taste.
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Shifter: Just go and watch the damn intro to the end before nailing it down.
For me Sonnet is clearly the best intro released this year so far. Rise by Mindforce & Park comes near but Sonnet goes much more further with the slowly evolving atmosphere.
I agree it's also a production you don't want to see too often (I actually saw it only once in the intro compo jury)...
And hey, I even like the music even tho' I'm normally not a big fan on Vic's. :) |
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added on the 2001-08-19 by melw |
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For the sake of argument, I did just that, Melwyn. Hasn't changed a damn thing, I still think it's not all that it's cracked up to be.
It was pleasant to hear the music finish though. It's still the best thing about the intro as far as I feel. =) |
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nice intro, but after seeing it i had a sort of "it could have been good"-feeling. |
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Ugly and boring. (tho the music is somewhat nice towards the end) |
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Well, to begin with let me say this... I don´t quite get peoples trip with this algorithmic compression started by farb-rausch... It´s boring, it doesn´t contain any impressing "effects" whatsoever...it´s just regular conceptual coding with no motive of pushing peoples perception...if you get my point...It´s not bad or lousy it´s just boring and mainstream... |
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added on the 2001-08-28 by nudge |
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Adding insult to injury: some feedback from retired sceners who were forced to watch it, and somehow none were happy.
"Looks impressive for a software intro...-oh, it's hardware?"
"Is that green grid supposed to be grass, or am I that drunk?"
"Can I go back to coding now?"
"Noise textures. Did we have to wait that long for noise textures? fr-08 had proper texures and music for the tenth of the time"
"Sonnet, Sonnet... Isn't that the intro we prematurely esc'ed last week?" |
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I bet those retired sceners were real impressed by the Alien Prophets demo, weren't they? |
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sagacity, was that supposed to some sort of an insult?!? |
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added on the 2001-09-02 by jar |
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No, just pointing out that having a bunch of retired sceners watching ANYTHING that isn't made by someone they don't personally know usually ends up with "it sucks".
I mean, just try watching a demo together with Assa :)
Oh well. |
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Wel sagacitiy, as a matter of fact, they were pleased 50-50 with it. They loved that marching cube crap.
I don't see what that would have to do with Sonnet though.
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A great intro which is very beautiful. This intro do indeed make my bodytemperature drop at the end. |
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added on the 2001-10-06 by Wain |
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Magic Intro.. a little boring (i'm sorry) but.. very beuty! i great! but 3state.. you can do it better! go go! :) |
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added on the 2001-10-06 by trace |
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A really good intro! I want the final version! |
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added on the 2001-10-12 by dairos |
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No sir, I didn't like it. The *ideas* were good, but talk about boring! Watching a glass of water evaporate would be more fun. |
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added on the 2001-10-20 by thom |
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Has some very nice stuff and scenes, and I sort of like the music, but that's about it. Except for that, I mean, try watching this thing twice in a row and you will understand.
However, i still consider this a "must see" for it's radically different style. O well... i'll still give it a thumbs up. |
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added on the 2001-11-07 by Nezbie |
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i especially loved the music, but the rest is particularly long and boring to me ...
so i decently cannot give it a thumbs up, it's quite disappointing from 3state ... but still ok ... |
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added on the 2001-11-14 by flure |
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Perfect.Cool 3d scenes.It's a little bit boring (just a little) but the visual result is amazing. And all these in 64 kb. Great job guys!! |
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added on the 2001-11-15 by zafos |
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Just saw this for the first time on my brothers ridiculously powerful pc (and he only uses it to run office 2000... criminal) - oh my god. oh my good giddy gosh. this is really quite proper. it IS a shame it needs such high-end hardware - but, what a piece of art... i rate this way more than fr-08. sorry guys.
das produkt had better music, but this has the aesthetics down, and very intelligent direction, and transitions between scenes. fr08 is UGLY. i loved it anyway, but i love this more. simply breathtaking.
still, don't pay any attention to me, i think the best 64kb intro ever is Bakkslide by hellcore and omnicolor. ;¬p |
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Sonnet is impressive for its size. Of course it needs to pre-calculate its guts before starting... Also it lasts quite long. The work is very good though. Design is quite nice, only some colors could be better. If you absolutely hate 3d-fly-bys, stay away, and don't listen to it with headphones as I did because the stereo separation sucks! :-) Oh, and speaking of music, some vibratos/tremolos would make the music so much smoother...
Anyway, I liked it. |
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added on the 2001-11-15 by mot |
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there's a difference between slow-paced and boring. this is simply boring. |
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added on the 2001-11-17 by rjv |
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I like it.
The loading part is VERY long.
The first part's design simply sucks.
The rest is history... Atmosphere is the keyword... |
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added on the 2001-11-22 by Gargaj |
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Beats fr-08 if you ask me! |
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added on the 2001-11-28 by zafos |
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Extream!! yikes!! Damn cool, effects. Can't understand hw this was made..lol |
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Wow! This is the best intro released in the last year, it rocks!
Impressive how much threestate managed to get into a 64k-intro.
I think it should have been maybe 30% shorter, but what the heck, I wasn't bored.
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Technically cool, but boring like hell, I really had to force myself to watch it until the end. |
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added on the 2001-12-20 by nufan |
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boring. boo-ring. >yawn!< |
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Good production, sucky colors, a bit boring. |
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nugde: agreed. |
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Quite a pain with headphones because of the 'stereo bug', but otherwise a good intro. |
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added on the 2002-03-01 by tomaes |
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time for a thumb. very nice colours in this demo imho :) |
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added on the 2002-05-02 by lai |
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It's always a poor reflection when the precalculating lasts longer than the intro. But even after the wait (2 cups of coffee, a shower and a short nap) there's nothing to justify this.
The visuals are average, the poetry is twee and hackneyed, and the shrill music is very unpleasant.
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Preload lasts way too long, and the beginning is rather crappy (did I wait that long just for watching THAT shit?). But then... the strange music is pretty addictive time, and the graphics fit the atmosphere.
I still do not know wether I like this prod or not... |
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added on the 2002-05-21 by TS |
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I love it. Beautiful, although the wait is quite long.
Has a certain "vibe", that most productions don't have.
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slow and beautiful |
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added on the 2002-06-03 by diver |
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nice, beautiful................. |
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added on the 2002-07-17 by knl |
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really really beautiful 3d scenes! that's the way 3d shoudl be!
very nice rendering of the weather (sun, snow, sunset, etc.). especially the rain is amazing. |
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added on the 2002-07-22 by cyraxx |
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very beautiful indeed. perfect music. good cuts.
they should have dropped the lyrics though. and t could have been better technically... needs a fast 3d card for no apparent reason. and some of the textures badly fit together at the edges. |
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Impressive work and loading time :) |
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added on the 2002-08-01 by yenzen |
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beautiful and human . |
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added on the 2002-08-06 by alan |
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yay, yummy one. But, a lil bit tooo longlasting and slow for my taste. but cool nonetheless |
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added on the 2002-08-11 by elend |
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example of good (and btw. quite long) axelerated intro. but slow as hell7 :( |
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added on the 2002-09-04 by crs |
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nothing out of ordinary but the vibe is unique - rarely you can spot such an innocent beauty in the age of sarcasm and cynism. and despite silly poetry usually ruining the thing, this one carries atmosphere within very well.. i wont complain :) great intro!
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added on the 2002-11-08 by raver |
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marvellous ... giving fr some action eh?
lovely, the words are okay too. |
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added on the 2002-11-13 by Zzed |
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Well done and very atmospheric intro. |
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added on the 2002-11-13 by Crest |
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it deserves a thumb, it is a good intro.. just really, really boring. |
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It is a little boring, but I still liked it :) |
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Bored me to death, but doesn't deserve a sucks due to the time invested in this one |
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added on the 2003-03-27 by shash |
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beautiful... and i think it's not THAT boring |
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added on the 2003-04-11 by shadez |
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skarab does better than this |
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added on the 2003-04-11 by donny |
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too long, but four different seasons |
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added on the 2003-05-07 by js |
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Beatiful, but doesn't run on my machine :( |
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quite long, but it made it |
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added on the 2003-11-27 by myst |
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My all-time favorite 64k intro |
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added on the 2004-02-09 by ravity |
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is there a final to this?? wont run on 2k/rage128. |
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rewelz! |
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absolutly beautiful. it starts out "this will suck." then it hits you. "man, this is cool stuff!" |
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i almost agree. it starts with "this will suck", then it goes on with "man this sucks", and then "oh sweet jesus dubya christ this sucks" and finally "i'm not sure if i've ever seen anything sucking this much before".
In fact, I'm on the edge of actually thumbing this up.. |
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added on the 2004-08-28 by 216 |
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cute |
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I'm impressed now. Even the loader was well designed. |
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always liked it. |
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Nice, but unfortunately very flybyish. What bothers me in Sonnet is that the scenes try to look real, but fail to do so.. I would've preferred a more abstract view on things.. |
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Nothing to say about it, here is my thumb and my heart too :) |
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added on the 2004-10-07 by AbcuG! |
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This one looked much better at the party place. Didn't touch me... or finger.. or anything else |
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cute, but dull. some nice ideas, some bad ones ;)
piggy.
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added on the 2004-10-07 by kusma |
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never thumbed this one? hereby then! |
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added on the 2004-10-07 by Maali |
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it's beatiful and boring. worth a piggie. |
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added on the 2004-10-07 by teel |
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Everything is said already about this intro, so just my vote |
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kind of cute, but too boring. |
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added on the 2004-10-08 by asasel |
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A bit too long maybe, but it definitely rulez |
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added on the 2004-10-15 by BoyC |
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slow but cool |
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added on the 2004-10-15 by jb |
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looong but good. Nice chilled out style. |
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beautiful effects and stylish design. |
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Very cool but too long |
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added on the 2004-11-08 by keops |
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I like it ! |
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fond memories of this prod, i guess |
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Nice ! |
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oww how could i forget this candy ? :/
but lowpoly trees and blockygrass ruine some magic feeling :(
anyway here goes my thumb |
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Extremely good execution of a nice concept! |
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very smooth and cute, bit a bit long |
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added on the 2005-05-08 by las |
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lovely |
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I really like it. |
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added on the 2005-05-08 by RA |
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At that time I wasn't able to see it since it required good gfx hardware, and after a lot of precalc time it quitted!
Fortunately now I can see it without problems :)
Very good intro. |
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added on the 2005-05-30 by bdk |
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When this intro was seen 3 years ago, I did not understand true goodness.
(At that time, some scene was really slow.)
However, the thing that is good intro can be understood from seeing now.
cool style.
cool story.
and cool music. |
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added on the 2005-06-05 by got |
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I like the style and the chippy soundtrack. Good work!
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best 64k ever!
3 years on still holds its ground: wonderful concept, well excecuted.. and magic digi style soundtrack to fit.
demo makes me happy :) |
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the soundtrack does the magic..
and a great beginning...
but imho heavily overrated, cause they made alot better demos/intros.. |
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its pretty nice, but the music can get a bit annoying when using a headset due to all the paning. |
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added on the 2005-11-29 by wb |
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very nice.. i love it |
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Did I vote for this? The music's great... get it here |
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I like it. |
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added on the 2006-06-06 by hunta |
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It's boring... |
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added on the 2006-07-09 by Cj |
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aged badly technically. a tad booring aswell. good idea/concept saves it tho. |
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If your want the music, better get the XM here |
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great!!!!!!!!! |
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added on the 2006-09-19 by _xiod_ |
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64K... Amazing. |
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added on the 2007-01-14 by WsW |
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great |
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added on the 2007-01-15 by zeebr |
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a bit boring but thumb up for the content in there |
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added on the 2007-01-15 by src |
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this is a pure beauty. searched it today because I remembered it as a highlight. 4 seasons in a 64k demo. great work! |
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added on the 2007-02-24 by seppjo |
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Nice one. |
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added on the 2007-08-16 by Zplex |
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added on the 2007-08-17 by toxie |
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The best 64k to catch up with nature. |
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forgot this. |
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forgot this. |
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added on the 2007-11-08 by mad |
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yes, nice |
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added on the 2007-11-08 by BiTL |
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beautiful |
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added on the 2007-11-08 by XT95 |
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i especially like the music in the begining |
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ambient music and animation,
camera over landscapes: Spring (grass growing), Summer (sun and butterflies), Autumn (what happened to red), Winter (snow falling, all the landscape in ice)
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added on the 2008-03-16 by SoLo2 |
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O_o--b |
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added on the 2008-03-16 by aha |
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added on the 2008-04-16 by Pirx |
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.gif "Pirx") |
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Very nice, great feeling and a nice soundtrack. |
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added on the 2008-08-24 by d3pth |
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beautiful =) |
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:) |
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added on the 2008-12-20 by texel |
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a very brave approach which turned out quite well if not alone for the lovely music. I remember that even back in 01 some images needed some imagination to complete but then again we didn't have today's packers and other tools. It's really a blast to se it working after all those years. The morphing frame is a nice little gem I've never really seen like this afterwards. Wish 3state would come back ;) |
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I like the soundtrack a lot. |
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added on the 2009-10-02 by ham |
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