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release date : august 2008
release party : Buenzli 2008
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 66
  • is ok 19
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added on the 2008-08-17 12:43:15 by Salinga Salinga

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hell yes, this rocks! nice grass!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:46:18 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
i like it :) reminds me shadow of the collossus game :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:50:03 by substrate substrate
The soundtrack kicks ass, also it features some nice scenes. Could have been better if you would have been able to include all your ideas. Damn time probs :-)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:50:15 by Bobic Bobic
great
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:51:30 by Warhead Warhead
Very nice! Looks great and the music is kicking. Kudos for skipping the big party and releasing at buenzli.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:53:24 by Stebo Stebo
Chlorophyle fresh & rocks hard !
Also, I love the soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:55:36 by willbe willbe
really technically impressing, good sync and stuff =)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:55:37 by nula nula
Thumb for the NFO of this prod:

we decided to release this new nuance demonstration at the bnz#17 instead of NVscene... we admire the support we got with the demobox from NVidia, but as a demoscene group we have chosen to support one of the small european demoscene parties instead of the huge us event that surely will boast with releases.we think that a part of the attractiveness of demoscene parties
still comes with the releases and every single release at smaller parties also helps a tiny bit to keep them alive and possible.

this demo was made in some days after evoke 2008 and live at buenzli 17. enjoy!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 12:58:46 by magic magic
mean people would say: "we decided to win buenzli instead of participating and not winning at NVSScene"
but yay, it's a good thing you did that.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:04:06 by red red
Rocking soundtrack nice visuals and right strategic decisions. Nuance - you are the winners.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:08:16 by Paralax Paralax
what substrate said =)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:11:18 by panic panic
Oh boy, this is really cool! Beautiful style and really awesome grass effect.

A little on the short side, but so sweet!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:11:28 by Wade Wade
a very solid demo with killer soundtrack, however I found it a bit short.

The "strategic decision" might have won you buenzli, but it is not all that ethical (or clever) in my book. sorry.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:14:00 by Navis Navis
Very cool.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:18:04 by menace menace
boring..
added on the 2008-08-17 13:18:18 by 4kum4 4kum4
As I've heard during the prize giving Nuance will use the competition money for a nice barbecue party at TUM'08 with free meat for everyone.
added on the 2008-08-17 13:23:56 by Bobic Bobic
Short but good. Nice that you care about the smaller events, a shame that you leech off the bigger ones and apparently are proud of it
added on the 2008-08-17 13:30:24 by hollowman hollowman
Quote:
a shame that you leech off the bigger ones and apparently are proud of it


I would be proud of that too.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:48:01 by Serpent Serpent
Great visuals but too short.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 13:52:42 by Optimus Optimus
very cool indeed. soundtrack rules!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 14:32:00 by keith303 keith303
Short but great!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 14:54:09 by Alpha C Alpha C
liked it.. reminded me of MFX!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 15:04:21 by Pablo Escrollbar Pablo Escrollbar
Saw it at the DTV stream and even there it looked great!
added on the 2008-08-17 15:10:59 by Kuroto Kuroto
Woops.... Forgot my thumb.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 15:11:25 by Kuroto Kuroto
wow, great one. although it's feels a bit too short.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 15:12:54 by glow glow
Rocks
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 15:19:01 by Buckethead Buckethead
nice music - nice atmosphere
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 15:44:42 by titus^rab titus^rab
Cool!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 16:16:21 by Mystra Mystra
What i like the most about this, is the positioning of the lightning. Great job!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 16:28:58 by CONS CONS
Great demo with rocking breaks-track!
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 16:33:52 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Would have been better without that black overlay but nice otherwise.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 16:47:58 by keops keops
I think this is the best Nuance-prod I have seen in a long time - congrats on the win! The music was nice (though suffers from over-obvious use of the d-blue VST - something I'm guilty of myself :)

I miss some soft of climax though, the end of the demo is "just there" suddenly, which is a shame with such a decent buildup before it.

Also, while I get the point of releasing at a smaller party (heck, I organize a small party in dire need of releases myself), I find the attitude to be a bit much, all things considered. Still, good demo - congrats again :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 18:06:18 by gloom gloom
Nice. Repetitive but nice.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 18:09:38 by xernobyl xernobyl
mfx-ish visuals + appropriate soundtrack + cool meadows = thumb up.

i'm so sorry for not being there at buenzli this year... :(
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 18:27:09 by soolta soolta
Liked this one a lot! =)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 20:43:33 by Aasemoon Aasemoon
short but great, and a fucking good reason to
release it at buenzli!!! thank you.
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 20:49:49 by decca decca
rocked me all the way, the wicked nu-skool breaks tune does it for me :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 21:45:49 by keito keito
smooth and nice story =)
rulez added on the 2008-08-17 22:24:58 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
seriously, I really don't get the mentality of some users of this most excellent bbs have towards this issue. Ofcourse it is a good reason to release quality productions at small parties, but it is not when you went into a gentleman's agreement with a third party, you cancel that and then boast about it.

Some will say "yeah but nvidia can affort it - buenzli cannot"; that is irrelevant. It is the gesture that counts. At least with the intel compos (where you get a freebe before making the demo), the groups involved have been consistent and kept their promise to delivery. And in my book that helps the scene more than saying "screw intel, give them a bouncing pixel demo (or nothing at all) and let take our hot stuff to evoke/buenzli/bcn whatever"; because that sounds like a 17 year old that just got his hand into the pot with the
honey.

sorry if this has an offensive tone, I don't mean to... but the situation is rather offensive to the groups that got the kit and will be presenting to nvision with full knowledge that it won't get them a prize; or even to groups who will be there with a demo and never got a kit in the first place.
added on the 2008-08-17 22:37:15 by Navis Navis
Nice! But seems unfinished.

@Navis: Is it clear that they keep the demobox or are they about to give it back?
added on the 2008-08-17 23:21:40 by Salinga Salinga
if that is the case then it is perfectly honest and acceptable.
added on the 2008-08-17 23:35:46 by Navis Navis
yep, they will surely give back the hardware in untouched and boxed :)
added on the 2008-08-17 23:59:41 by Hyde Hyde
First things first:
If you watched the live stream of the prizegiving on D.TV you surely heard that we will put the whole price money (jury prize and public vote prize) we got for the demo back into the scene by organizing a huge barbeque free for all sceners present at the tUM*08 this year. This was decided after heavy internal discussions after the Assembly and even more after the Evoke and it's partly weak competitions. We fully stand behind our decision of what we think is the best we can do for the demoscene and the local parties. So. Come to tUM*08 and be our guest at a nice demoscene family barbeque and have some fine "schnitzel". ;)

Concerning the demobox kit we also already decided before Buenzli to get in touch with the NVscene staff, but unfortunately (the core team members of this demo project have normal workdays of 10 - 14 hours and also had to manage to finish the demo, so we had to priorize) didn't find the time to do so before, but will as soon as possible. We also wish NVscene a lot of nice releases, success and all the best.
added on the 2008-08-18 00:39:31 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
Nuance!
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 00:57:05 by elkmoose elkmoose
Nuannssse
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 01:02:51 by bartman bartman
Great music and nice visuals, even if the end feels rushed. Respect for the support for smaller parties.
rulezcdc added on the 2008-08-18 01:22:19 by necronomic0 necronomic0
Great demo and music (the cubes in a field reminds me of my own Happy Accidents demo, although this implementation is 100x better :). I just wish it didn't end so quickly, and you guys had, oh I don't know, 1-2 more weeks to finish it up.

I can see it from Nuance's point of view though - the Assembly and Evoke compos were pretty bare, and you're worried that Buenzli will follow, a party that you've supported over the few years. As long as you can send your demobox back, it's not really ethically wrong. But the message can be taken offensively by the groups following through for NVScene - i.e. "we support small, non-commercial demoparties, unlike the rest of you sellouts". Honestly, I didn't expect this many groups to hold out, but I guess the demoboxes were tempting bait.

I would've liked to have seen this in the NVScene compo, but I don't want to seem too selfish. :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 01:53:34 by phoenix phoenix
exactly what decca said.
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 09:23:15 by Sir Sir
what keops said
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 09:31:20 by seppjo seppjo
after 40 thumbs up, let me be the first to thumb this down.

a big badass intro text, then stupid cubes rolling over ugly grass, look-ma-i-can-do-fullscreen-rgb-offset-effects, repetitious soundtrack, vocal fragments with no relation to the intro text, then cubes form a hand - but no progression from there. instead, black wire going nowhere.

zero ideas, no story, no progression.

if this is your idea of a gift to a minor party, i would rather prefer not to receive such a present. judging from the demo, it appears as if you were afraid that the quality was too poor to present the demo at nvscene. rightfully so!

congratulations on your golden duck. better luck next time.
sucks added on the 2008-08-18 10:05:27 by paniq paniq
Quote:
if this is your idea of a gift to a minor party, i would rather prefer not to receive such a present

yeah right, let´s just watch Rob is Jarig 25 times on every party as of today ;)
added on the 2008-08-18 10:14:20 by Sir Sir
Controversy! \o/
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 10:18:26 by okkie okkie
This is turning into some kind of modern day Robin Hood story...!? :-)
added on the 2008-08-18 10:19:53 by Stebo Stebo
okkie, you know what I mean, you were on Evoke. :)
ppl like to go to DEMOparties, coz they like to watch (and release) DEMOs. if all the good demos get sold out to compos like the Intel Demo Compo or NVScene (USA...) classic demoparties, especially smaller ones will suffer from it. Hell, even Assembly wasn´t that well "equipped" this year.
So: outreach efforts good, dragging away releases from pure demoparties bad, mmmkay? ;)
added on the 2008-08-18 10:26:44 by Sir Sir
Handing out free stuff is not a guarantee. This is a risk that Nvidia damn well knew about and probably anticipated. No need to cry about it, i'd say.
added on the 2008-08-18 10:26:55 by okkie okkie
sir: my comment wasn't aimed at you specifically. I actually wholly agree with your opinion :)
added on the 2008-08-18 10:28:49 by okkie okkie
Quote:

yeah right, let´s just watch Rob is Jarig 25 times on every party as of today ;)


if this is the only alternative, it is probably time to quit the scene. other than that, rob is jarig at least never made an attempt to appear serious.
added on the 2008-08-18 11:41:46 by paniq paniq
nice!!
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 11:43:09 by Premium Premium
OK O_o--b
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 14:28:06 by aha aha
The statement would probably be far more interesting if the demo wasn't such a letdown and followed by far more demo groups.

Quote:
I find the attitude to be a bit much

I'm sure. After all, you are exceptionally unbiased on the whole.

Navis: I'm somewhat puzzled to hear that you have some kind of moral beef with where demos "ought" to be released. ASD has seen more than one release where the profitability of a competition seemed to weigh into the matter.
added on the 2008-08-18 15:48:28 by Shifter Shifter
shifter: my critisism doesn't imply that I'm mother teresa myself, now or in the future. I don't hold (and don't care to hold) the moral high ground and I only speak as an old fart who has been to a few parties (smaller and larger) over the past years and knows how sponsorship works (more or less). As I said the situation is slightly more complicated than "group A decides to release at party B rather than C", but nuance clarified.

As for deciding the party to reveal your next demo, I think it is influenced by the factors of exposure,party conditions, heritage, profitability, who else is going, etc. etc. ASD is no different in balancing these options than any other group...
added on the 2008-08-18 16:14:28 by Navis Navis
I wholeheartedly oppose the latter statement.
added on the 2008-08-18 16:16:10 by Shifter Shifter
ofcourse you do. You know exactly what passes through our minds in every release. You also know all about our bank accounts and how we scam assembly, intel and breakpoint every year of their precious graphics cards and software licences to run around in ferraris.
added on the 2008-08-18 16:23:22 by Navis Navis
Navis: just ignore Shifter.
added on the 2008-08-18 16:38:23 by mrdoob mrdoob
Some people like important men in shiny suits (navis, gloom), some like rock 'n' roll! ;)
hmm. a big buildup towards... nothing, really.

i'm not sure what the intro text was supposed to promise (apart from cheesiness), but i'm pretty sure i didn't get it. not even the cheese! ah, wait, i take back that last part, there was cubes morphing into a curiously misshapen hand. (what's with the hand fetish, btw? first asd, then ukscene allstars, now nuance. it seems to be spreading!)

that's not to say that it's bad. it certainly has good craftsmanship from everyone involved. but watching is still feels disappointing, so here's my piggy.
added on the 2008-08-18 16:55:41 by ryg ryg
nuance is just an early adopter of something we can expect to happen next year: a number of groups who won't do so well in the nvision compos will count their blessings and release in a smaller competition, in order to achieve a relatively bigger impact with their prods. in itself, this no problem whatsoever. what may raise some eyebrows is that nunace first accepted a demobox to develop for nvision, and only after that changed their minds. but considering raven's statement, i guess they'd probably give back the demobox when prompted to (not that i expect that to happen, but anyway). so i don't see a reason to blame them for their behaviour, same as with the guys who want to "earn" their boxes by releasing at nvision.
added on the 2008-08-18 17:17:41 by havoc havoc
Neither are we early adopters, nor are we some kind of people trying to fill our bank accounts with compo prize money of small parties. We're doing demos since 1991 now and having a look at our release list here on Pouet, you can clearly see that we released a demo for e.g. every Breakpoint the last years. And even if we knew that we won't win or have a chance to win, we continued and will continue to release demos also on the parties we believe to have no chance. What we love is the demoscene, it's parties and we also love to do releases now and then (even without any party). Why? Because this is what the demoscene means to us. And if we decide to release our demo at a small scale party that seems to lack releases and decide to use the price money for a barbeque with other scene friends, this should be clearly visible that it's not about the money for us. And if you know us personally (like some of you already do) you surely would know that we're not calculating bastards, but demosceners that care for the scene. But the way on how we want to give something back is our decision. We'd love to see the people thinking badly of us at the tUM*08, having some barbeque and beers with us and getting to know us better. You're deeply invited.

The coder that got the demobox started his vacation right after buenzli, but an nvscene staff member was already e-mailed and told that he will tackle this as soon as he's back.
added on the 2008-08-18 18:18:18 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
Raven^NCE : then a good idea would be to offer that demokit to a small party, so that it can be used as compo prize ;)

Navis : you can steal nvidia's dollars next week and store them in your secret demoscene bank account in .ch as long as it's done with one of those nice demos. Unless someone else steals it before :D
added on the 2008-08-18 19:39:52 by keops keops
raven: hmm, i'm getting the impression using the term "early adopters" was a bad decision on my part... maybe it would have been better to say that you are the first to announce a decision that i expect others will also be taking next year?

also, i know that you guys are regularly releasing stuff in compos where you probably know beforehand that the chance of a victory is not optimal. kudos for that! i organise a "small" party, so without guys like you i might be out of a purpose in the scene. but at the same time, if you would have a 110% killer classic demo lurking on your harddisk somewhere, i would expect you to release it at nvision this year. i know i would. ;)
added on the 2008-08-18 20:15:10 by havoc havoc
First:
Demo is nice, but short, like the way that the boxes travel through the grass and that the "ribbons" spawn on the beat/bass. Nice music.
Verdict: A small thumb up :)

Second:
I don't get the fuzz here - NVidia handed out demoboxes - GREAT!
Nvidia hopes to get a good list of full releases at NVscene, however I can't see how they would expect ALL groups to deliver a demo/intro for NVscene? That would mean a demo compo with like... 50 major entries... that would be quite silly.
Let's simply enjoy that the demo boxes are actually beeing used for making (drumroll) demos! Because that's what the demoboxes are meant for - I for sure didn't sign any agreement promising a release for NVscene (That I feel obligated to do a release is another matter ;) )

Third: who will actually start a thread about this, instead of polluting the production comments? :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-18 21:05:27 by Puryx Puryx
good demo
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 02:57:04 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 07:16:12 by psenough psenough
I am going to thumb this one up just to negate paniq's narrowmindedness.
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 10:51:15 by Nutman^IRIS Nutman^IRIS
Quote:
You know exactly what passes through our minds in every release.

Ok, now you're looking for a disagreement that simply isn't there. I oppose the idea that just about all demo groups actively plot, scheme and "invest" in releases the way you apparently do. Some people do this for the sake of fun, you know.
added on the 2008-08-19 10:57:27 by Shifter Shifter
what puryx said, it is not as if nvidia were ripped off, the demobox agreement is loose afaik (besides nvidia is a big corporation ffs!), thanx Nuance for that buenzli demo, your coder should keep the demobox for more future prods :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 11:49:41 by Zest Zest
I really like the idea of free BBQ! The demo is not my sausage, though.
added on the 2008-08-19 12:43:17 by chromag chromag
Nice stuff.
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 18:05:02 by Daddy Freddy Daddy Freddy
For the music.
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 23:17:54 by Lazarus Lazarus
the camera_bending_the_grass_effekt is a superb_idea :)

as also the rest is fukkin nice...too bad it got a bit short.

nuance is back on the track to last forever i hope :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-19 23:50:53 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
great grass scene!
and nice trax.
rulez added on the 2008-08-20 05:52:52 by got got
i dunno, must watch it on a faster machine..
added on the 2008-08-20 07:45:09 by gman gman
grass
rulez added on the 2008-08-20 20:36:01 by src src
my pc is too weak.
video anyone?
added on the 2008-08-21 12:53:58 by v3nom v3nom
venom: It's on demoscene.tv

Really nice demo. It drags on a bit long with the grass. But it's a really kickin soundtrack and overall looks really nice. Keep em coming, Nuannnsssseeeeeeeeee!

rulez added on the 2008-08-21 14:59:25 by Axel Axel
what .c0c00n. said.
rulez added on the 2008-08-21 15:17:34 by gman gman
drive
rulez added on the 2008-08-22 00:42:19 by elfh elfh
what substrate and Bobic said
rulez added on the 2008-08-23 14:28:37 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
Nice but short.
added on the 2008-08-25 01:57:02 by Maissi Maissi
liked this
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 09:54:02 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
my favorite demo from nuance so far.
Nice
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 15:47:23 by nytrik nytrik
nice visuals but the framerate killed the pleasure(8600gt, quad...)
added on the 2008-08-25 15:58:42 by comankh comankh
what ryg said.
added on the 2008-08-26 11:09:52 by uncle-x uncle-x
Nice, but soomewhat lengthy
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 02:32:53 by T$ T$
sound kept me awake
what uncle-x said.
added on the 2009-02-04 20:48:50 by decipher decipher
I'd have expected mythical creatures, orchestral music, stuff like that after the quote from tolkien's silmarillion (right?) in the intro, but instead of that we got some rocks tumbling over a field, eventually assembling into a misshapen hand, and some black lines+circles.

It looks nice, and it's all in all a decent demo, but it all was a bit aimless and without progression. And Tolkien quotes in a production with breakbeatish music and happy colours just don't fit somehow.
added on the 2009-04-20 12:17:13 by stijn stijn
cool
rulez added on the 2009-06-09 07:13:40 by VIT310 VIT310
rulez added on the 2009-08-11 13:34:10 by iks iks
Short but nice. Very nice zik.
rulez added on the 2009-08-28 23:11:09 by bdk bdk
Just great!
rulez added on the 2010-01-31 14:22:38 by emu emu
i like it, but the glow is painful
rulez added on the 2010-01-31 16:42:26 by blala blala
:*
rulez added on the 2010-04-06 00:19:45 by moqui moqui
Repetitive scene and effects.
added on the 2010-09-23 15:55:08 by jack-3d jack-3d

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