Suretrip II - Dopecode by Checkpoint [web]
screenshot added by evil on 2009-05-24 11:43:54
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release date : may 2009
release party : Outline 2009
compo : atari demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 98
  • is ok 10
  • sucks 0
popularity : 1%
  • rulez 0.91
  • cdcs 2
alltime top: #596
added on the 2009-05-24 11:43:54 by evil evil

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What a massive demo once again from Checkpoint. Bravo!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 11:44:57 by evil evil
Defjam you are insane!!! :) Rocks like hell!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 12:00:49 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 12:19:41 by Optimus Optimus
Seriously, a lot of stuff here ruled. A lot of cool or interesting ideas. I like the crystal blobs, hand with z-buffer, RGB triplete planets and a lot more stuff I have to watch again to remember. I simply love it when once in a while such a massive coderporn demo appears.
added on the 2009-05-24 12:21:34 by Optimus Optimus
great stuff
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 13:05:49 by noby noby
Great demo... I lost my speech when seeing most of the effects !
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 13:32:50 by frost242 frost242
some really nice effects destroyed by zero design
Why design when you have Defjam code ;-) Arf SURE this is a nice TRIP 2 atari demos ... Love love this one and the LAMESCREEN makes me laughing ;-) BIg up for all the team
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 14:46:28 by chuckdun chuckdun
Defjam vs lsl.... who will win? :)

Concerning the comment above: Yeah it feels a bit inconsistent and there are no transitions between parts....

BUT: If you regard it as I did (a traditional ST megademo with different parts) then it becomes a clear winner.

The homage to TCB again was fun (24 hours screen, enchanted lands boot loader), and the rest of the screens' frame rates are unbelievably good!

All in all, I enjoyed it, so here's my thumb!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 14:47:04 by すすれ すすれ
ugly coder pr0n that goes on for about twice as long as it should. still a thumb up
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 16:03:52 by parcelshit parcelshit
Yeah, great stuff! I especially like the metaballs and the third part of the demo. Transitions between the screens could be better, but who cares. ;-)
rulezcdcadded on the 2009-05-24 16:06:57 by RA RA
Some very nice pixelgraphics here. Overall a bit messy demo. Specially the start allmost made me not see the rest of the demo.

I am glad I did though. :)
added on the 2009-05-24 16:26:23 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
amazing code - who could know defjam had more still to come after all these years. and a little bit of design and cool ziq too! sometimes i felt checkpoint demos had a bit too ambitious effects, with a bit too low frame rate.. absolutely not this time!! i enjoyed every moment, who needs falcon? truly this is a masterpiece.
rulezcdcadded on the 2009-05-24 16:36:00 by gwEm gwEm
great code.... cool music... horrible design in overall, even though some scenes looked very nice.
added on the 2009-05-24 16:42:55 by Eliecan Eliecan
Lots of content and cool music. I enjoyed this a lot at Outline!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 16:49:08 by Alpha C Alpha C
even though the lengt it didn't seem too long at the party, very very enjoyable!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 17:35:09 by dwarf dwarf
As I watch it again and think about the comments I come into the conclusion that this is the proof that coderpr0n is what I really like no matter how bad it's done. There are indeed several parts here not fitting, several things put together harshly, it's really a very rough made demo, yet I love it to death!
added on the 2009-05-24 18:19:08 by Optimus Optimus
For some reason, in the scene with the hand and z-buffer objects, I see the hand inside out, something like the z order not being consistant with what I see on screen.
Guess I'm tired...
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 18:41:03 by Dbug Dbug
I've seen better by BITS... nah.

Awesome demo. One of the best ST demos ever.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 18:45:32 by xernobyl xernobyl
amazing, great music&code
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 18:48:29 by Grz- Grz-
This blew me away!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 19:03:46 by Haohmaru Haohmaru
What a surprise at Outline!
Design seems to lack in some points but overall it really rocked!
Go Defjam! :)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 19:21:24 by simonsunnyboy simonsunnyboy
This has some really nice parts (and some strange ones).

Incidentally, I'd like to correct some spiritual claims made in this demo.

"There must be an evil king."

That statement makes no sense. Is there one or is there not? You can't tell reality what it "must" do.

Evil kings, anyway, tend to destroy themselves in the long run. They are just too annoying and useless, eventually someone finishes them off.

"If there is a god of gods, he can be defeated."

Defeating god, eh? Hahahahahahahahaha... show me someone who can do that.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 19:30:20 by vibrator vibrator
I am speechless now.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 19:35:18 by Cj Cj
It's just awesome. Technically. Acoustically. Graphically.
And yes, it's a bit rought but it features defjam-design at its best.
Love it. Love it! LOVE IT!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 20:20:29 by Paranoid Paranoid
Awesome tune, awesome prod.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 21:00:26 by Agilo Agilo
100% :)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 21:14:23 by ... ...
good stuff
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 21:28:53 by zefyros zefyros
i really enjoyed this one
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 21:49:19 by mueslee mueslee
very cool demo!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 21:53:08 by dimouse dimouse
defjam rules :D
honestly,imo, oldschool coderpron also deserves design/better colors/coherence etc.
(not the fault of those nice pixel graphics)
music is also great :D

rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 22:00:42 by pandur pandur
The overall flow was ruined by the too long parts & boring precalc/loading sequences.
That said, there's some shithot code in there!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 23:18:55 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
Absolutely brillant! Checkpoint did it again! I agree on the inconcistencies and transitions but who cares?
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 23:26:45 by ChrisTOS ChrisTOS
some really nice effects but they coudlve been but together better. too much like a megademo for my taste.
added on the 2009-05-24 23:44:00 by nosfe nosfe
Really impressive.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-24 23:51:01 by Preacher Preacher
Some good parts, and some not so good ones.
added on the 2009-05-25 00:04:38 by Frequent Frequent
Very very cool!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 01:14:19 by Carbon- Carbon-
I dont get it. I would thumb down but for the fact I feel like I must be missing something. There were only two effects I liked (the hand and the tunnel). Sincerely not trolling here, but I honestly thought the STe was capable of more than this?
added on the 2009-05-25 01:33:20 by Mtl Mtl
Lots of nice contents there :D. Defjam sure knows his business.

(<OT>BTW, DefJam, I really digged your GBA sequencer. Funky shit ;D</OT>)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 11:40:49 by elfan elfan
really loved it in the compo. sure, it's coderpron, but coderpron with a really good move to it! the awesome music really helped, too.

it was really cool watching this sitting in the middle of a, initially slightly atari-sceptical, crowd of pc sceners who were getting more and more blown away :-) checkpoint really turned some heads here!!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 11:40:57 by skrebbel skrebbel
I miss some synch/design/script on this, but the code is what it is, dope.
The voxel world, the double textured tunnel, the "background revealing" metaballs and those "separate RGB rendered" planets are just amazing.
You can actually recognize the earth continents on the planets screen, crazy!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 12:10:11 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Live Footage Part 1

Live Footage Part 2

Sorry for the sudden chop off here, I was frying a bacon sandwich and suddenly remembered I had to stop it overrunning the 10 minute limit and I had no idea how far thru I was.

Live Footage Part 3

added on the 2009-05-25 13:40:13 by m0d m0d
Oh and btw. Rulez.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 13:40:50 by m0d m0d
Dopecode, amazing tunes, great pics, 20 minutes multipart demo i just can't stop watching again and again !
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 15:11:54 by Tomchi Tomchi
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 15:29:14 by Shifter Shifter
Polak style demo big pixels FX running at 10vbl with ugly colors
but nice graph and some really cool part
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 16:35:24 by HerrV HerrV
@m0d: Half big stripes, was there really that error at the big screen, or is it just myyyy youtube?
added on the 2009-05-25 20:03:55 by Optimus Optimus
in the part1 youtube video I mean
added on the 2009-05-25 20:04:49 by Optimus Optimus
Awesome! Who the hell cares about inconsistencies and transitions when you know when you've waited your going to see something that's going to make your jaw drop?
added on the 2009-05-25 20:22:13 by Oblivion Oblivion
@Optimus: Yeah fucked up camera capture. Didn't notice it because i went away while encoding it and didn't bother to check it being it was 4:30am in the morning...

Re-capped one seems fine, grab it from here:

Part 1, working this time

added on the 2009-05-25 21:29:20 by m0d m0d
some really nice effects destroyed by zero design

Automatically thumbing up for invoking comments like these. BRING BACK THE REAL DEMOS.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 23:32:37 by Calexico Calexico
Fntastic demo. Too bad the beginning was rather "normal" and some pictures were reused. :)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-25 23:33:20 by Exin Exin
Awesome! Incredible ! O_O

This is the best technical demo on stF!
2D part is great and THE 3d part is terribly impressive. The sound is good or very good and the gfx are cool ! :)

Bravo !
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 00:13:15 by Templeton Templeton
Über Kewl code as usual! BRAVO!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 09:50:46 by baah baah
Awesome effects on the humble ST.

Defjam, 505 & the rest - Danke & Merci !
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 11:50:23 by Grey / MSB Grey / MSB
Rather boring at the start, but works up to some really nice effects and 505's music is fantastic, the whole way through. Nice work defjam!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 12:21:14 by Malodix Malodix
Some nice ideas in here!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 12:29:23 by Sander Sander
Sadly the incoherence of all the parts ruin the show a little,
but that's made up pretty much by the utter c0de pr0n and the tunes (not the sample loops, though). Nice 2D gfx as well.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 13:00:32 by d0DgE d0DgE
This was a nice suprise for me at outline. I like it for what it is, thumbs up!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 14:56:01 by numtek numtek
Fantastic soundtrack, and AMAZING code (even though the precalcs are sometimes lengthy), as always in Checkpoint productions!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 18:12:13 by HarryPotter HarryPotter
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 18:17:08 by havoc havoc
Holy shit! ... just saw the captures and ... yes ... it's amazing - outstanding - mind blasting ... wish we've had that code back in 1994 ... we'd been the burners! ;) ... *mumbling* "... holy shit ... damnit ... how could they've done it ..."


Ah and ... this wasn't done in C++, eh?! ;)

pea 0.w
trap #1

Great stuff!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-26 21:38:44 by slippy slippy
i have no clue about atari, but this managed to entertain and impress me at the party

rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 08:39:10 by mentor mentor
The demo feels really, really inconsistent, and some of the gfx were quite weak. But the code alone deservers a huge thumb! :)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 08:54:51 by britelite britelite
ugly, inconsistent, long, boring and repetitive parts, the part in the screenshot was particularly horrid. the code/effects give it a thumb up tho.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 09:07:51 by dodke dodke
rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 13:33:50 by tobé tobé
nice kick to evil's ass.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 17:46:50 by moredhel moredhel
Sure it was uneven in places, but still a classic and worthy successor to the earlier Checkpoint demos. Some effects were equalling a Falcon!

rulezadded on the 2009-05-27 21:18:05 by CiH CiH
full of nice ideas plus i love the design.
great atari musics aswell!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 03:00:01 by ԹHΞΞ ԹHΞΞ
pure coderpr0n... but i miss some fluidity and design, technically it truly rocks... was looking better on the bigscreen to be honest ;)
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 11:16:23 by moondog moondog
*fap* *fap* *fap*

there are filler screens and odd moments without any sound.. but the effects are really nice. some news in the chunky world as well on the crazy palette splitting, border breaking, hardware bashing side. i especially loved the commanche voxel. not free-directional, of course.. the st is too slow for that. but the spectrum512 pseudo true colour mode: sweet!!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 11:22:46 by earx earx
i gotta give massive credits to 505 for the music. i think it's maybe the most rocking thing he's ever done!
added on the 2009-05-28 11:24:08 by earx earx
awesome!!! i totally dig the soundtrack <3 so fucking great.. and so are the effects and visuals!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 12:20:02 by nemesis nemesis
A big thumb up for the massive code, but there is always some defaults : low framerate, lack of transitions, too long and sometimes boring (decrunch/loader)...
Your work is really amazing, but "Suretrip III - DopeDesign" will be for sure the perfect one !
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 15:46:51 by Hicks Hicks
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 18:16:06 by malmix malmix
heh - what optimus said
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 20:56:04 by auld auld
rulezadded on the 2009-05-28 21:33:19 by StingRay StingRay
HDD version please!!!!!
added on the 2009-05-28 23:03:43 by pigula pigula
wow! voxel hand :) :) :) sweet!
rulezadded on the 2009-05-29 13:25:52 by calimero calimero
Woah, long. Nice tune.
added on the 2009-05-30 17:58:44 by AntDude AntDude
dopecode indeed + some nice tunes & gfx.
rulezadded on the 2009-05-31 14:54:59 by p01 p01
serious sounds, serious fx, serious code

zero design but who cares?
rulezadded on the 2009-06-02 02:31:53 by bfx bfx
damn that blob effect i already started to code... bla ! but you were faster ;)
that's the part i like most... also the overscan stars...

good parts in it ;)

but the z-buffer colors...brrr *shuettel* ;)
rulezadded on the 2009-06-03 10:52:26 by ultra ultra
rulezadded on the 2009-06-03 18:15:31 by Grimmy Grimmy
rulezadded on the 2009-06-03 20:57:03 by Buckethead Buckethead
Wow, a new ATARI ace demo, with plenty of old-school records, I like it!
If I can get some spare time i would enjoy to beat the starfield screen :-)
PS: I love the "checkpoint goes 3D" screen!
rulezadded on the 2009-06-04 01:17:52 by leonard leonard
codewise would've been an average c64 demo in the mid 90's if scaling down the speed/etc on some of the fx's to the HW in mind. designwise also totally like the mid 90's c64 demos. freakin mess.

the landscape has an artifical&very bad "perspective". the blobs are the best.
added on the 2009-06-04 11:26:06 by Oswald Oswald
Oswald: Agreed ... but OTOH what do you expect from a demo named "dopecode" :p
added on the 2009-06-04 12:07:58 by p01 p01
Pretty impressive !
rulezadded on the 2009-06-04 12:41:11 by micdune micdune
codewise would've been an average PC demo in the mid 90's if scaling down the speed/etc on some of the fx's to the HW in mind.

I emailed Zappy/HC that there's new great shit going on ST, so can you make a comeback and show us some true nature of ST coding. Oh, well Zappy replied that he's busy with his own business and stuff, so no time for our Atari ST :(

Now, im really waiting for Leos "revenge" of that starfield :)

added on the 2009-06-05 16:59:10 by moredhel moredhel
moredhel... geh und spiel einfach mit sprengstoff
added on the 2009-06-05 19:25:11 by ultra ultra
I love this demo. Great code, pictures and 200hz music. Superb work!!!
Although - as much as I adore ST - you totally forgot how to make 50hz standard YM music. Next time for parts with 50Hz music you'd better invite Yerzmyey or Factor6 (converting is childish simple).
rulezadded on the 2009-06-06 19:29:43 by johny johny
johny: the music is replayed at 50Hz, but using interrupts for the sidlike lead sounds, why not use that when it's entierly possible? :)
added on the 2009-06-07 07:22:55 by evil evil
And the nominees for best demo on a oldskool platform are ...
rulezadded on the 2009-06-07 14:04:56 by solenoid solenoid
rulezadded on the 2009-06-08 01:09:38 by notorius notorius
Johny... to be honest... you have no clue... converting a spectrum tune to atari ym is not 100% acuratly possible... we tried it already ;)
added on the 2009-06-08 11:06:23 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
rulezadded on the 2009-06-09 22:00:25 by absadhkjsaduoiw1 absadhkjsaduoiw1
Yo, Lo-tek.
Actually I can send You two of my songs converted to Atari ST, to SND. They play exactly like on Spectrum. However I admit I slightly changed "manually" volumes of snare and some leads. In the process I use about 3-4 programs but it's still not so bad situation. ;)
As for the demo, I love the stuff, also all musix, and I don't think they require our help. ;) Although would be nice to help them; it's another question. ;)
rulezadded on the 2009-06-10 15:49:09 by YERZMYEY/H-PRG YERZMYEY/H-PRG
OK then, I recorded it.
You can comparison for instance:
original ZX Spectrum AY version
and also
the same song played by Atari ST and YM.
There are some differences on ST but in 99% they don't harm in listenning (with exception of bass in 2:23 time, 2:31 and so on - in this ONE case deformation of bass-FX is louder on Atari ST than on Spectrum. Which is weird).
Much love to Atari ST!
Yerz: I remember Tao tried to convert some spectrum tunes a few years ago and they didn't play 100%... wasn't that also tunes sent in by you?
added on the 2009-06-11 08:49:51 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
I dunno actually. I tried only 2 of mines, if I recall. They worked OK after some small manual correcting. However that's true I mean only source files from trackers (SoundTracker 1.1, ProTracker, SQ-Ttracker and others). I have never tried anything from 80s games, as I'm not a coder, You know.
The thumb up is for a lot of cool code. looks ugly and drags out for about 4 times longer than it should, but I guess that's forgivable. Some of the "lets make this even cooler"-parts were a turnoff, as the framerate often dropped ridiculously low when the "extra coolness" was added :P
rulezadded on the 2009-06-14 10:05:28 by Duckers Duckers
this prod rulez!
rulezadded on the 2009-06-15 23:09:45 by mg mg
I only saw the live video but what I can tell from it... KICK ASS.
rulezadded on the 2009-06-17 19:59:25 by branch branch
Atari ST 2009 demo ! Great !
rulezadded on the 2009-06-22 10:38:50 by Pandafox Pandafox
Aweeesome!!!!!!! Just great !!!
rulezadded on the 2009-07-12 20:21:02 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
Lots of nice stuff in this one.
So does it run on a vanilla standard ST? (not sure what the model was called, I was an Amiga guy myself back then)
rulezadded on the 2009-07-25 19:13:26 by Sdw Sdw
Sdw: Yep it runs on vanilla ST with 1MB memory and doublesided floppydrive.
added on the 2009-07-25 19:31:35 by evil evil
Too bad the design is almost non-existent and that we get those long loading/precalc times. Excellent effects and tunes otherwise.

And excellent pictures from Exocet as usual of course, although I would have prefered to watch new ones ;)
rulezadded on the 2009-08-02 19:46:31 by keops keops
Massive and very great =)
rulezadded on the 2009-08-25 21:10:12 by Princess_Luna Princess_Luna
Good one!
rulezadded on the 2009-12-29 22:51:23 by Factor6 Factor6
really impressive
rulezadded on the 2009-12-30 01:08:33 by Cyprian Cyprian
excellent show !
*still smiling*
rulezadded on the 2010-01-02 04:30:22 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
great work
rulezadded on the 2010-02-26 18:06:10 by blackpawn blackpawn
rulezadded on the 2010-07-23 04:43:06 by [ProToS] [ProToS]
rulezadded on the 2010-09-19 14:40:51 by newdan newdan
Really good demo but disapointed because of the file protec, I can't copy it inside my Satan disk...

Really good graphics by Exocet and Edo (and really 16 colors made graphics)

Only thing I don't really like : the big 4*4 pixels effects... too much awful...
added on the 2010-10-25 13:29:49 by Pandafox Pandafox
One of the best Atari demos out there.
Shoutouts go to defjam!
rulezadded on the 2010-10-26 16:32:25 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
rulezadded on the 2011-02-05 06:53:33 by goupilbrother goupilbrother
rulezadded on the 2011-07-13 05:31:43 by marss marss
quite long, but I survived. nice!
rulezadded on the 2012-10-31 12:45:21 by comankh comankh
rulezadded on the 2013-11-19 11:48:12 by UKKO UKKO
Freakin' awesome! Surely one of the best ST demos ever made!
rulezadded on the 2013-12-10 13:22:48 by Daniel Daniel
wow :)
rulezadded on the 2014-04-13 04:07:09 by _nemo_ _nemo_
still awesome :) always nice to come back to this demo once in a while.
added on the 2014-04-23 05:51:28 by nemesis nemesis
Surely one of the best demos ever? Superb STuff!!
rulezadded on the 2015-02-17 23:01:31 by applecrypt applecrypt

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