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Cruisin 3 by Abyss [web]
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release date : march 2013
release party : Revision 2013
compo : wild demo
ranked : 1st
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added on the 2013-04-01 22:53:40 by bartman bartman
This was AWESOME!!!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:01:32 by Optimus Optimus
Fuck yeah!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:03:43 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Really awesome.

Would also love an article or blog post explaining why you chose to drive oscilloscopes from a PS2, how you did it, challenges you faced etc. (please? :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:11:52 by xeron xeron
Analog pwnage! (good presentation, works well as a demo too!)
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:12:50 by noby noby
proper arsekicking !
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:17:32 by d0DgE d0DgE
Amazing!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:20:31 by slack slack
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:21:32 by MsK` MsK`
Proper direct feed Full HD YouTube
added on the 2013-04-01 23:26:47 by bartman bartman
Thanks guys! Will do something in the next days/weeks. Until then, try to figure out how it works. Just one additional note: The composite video signal is connected to all three displays without any further electronics. And as mentioned, Audio is connected to audio - that's where the AHX should be, right in your ears!
added on the 2013-04-01 23:30:07 by DexterAYS DexterAYS
luv u guys!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:30:49 by Rork Rork
nice presentation and execution. nice to see and hear meo being back :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:33:43 by dalezy dalezy
very cool
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:46:02 by Sir Sir
Great!
rulez added on the 2013-04-01 23:51:45 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
Very very cool. Nice tune too!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 00:26:46 by Emod Emod
Nice :) I've a couple of theories on how it works having played with a fair few scopes and TV pattern generators in the past... I wonder if seeing all 3 screens at the same time would give anything away, or turning up the brightness a touch on the TV?
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 00:30:52 by the-other-pigpen the-other-pigpen
I'm dexter and do is my wife
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 00:43:08 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
dEX!!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 00:54:56 by spotUP spotUP
<3 fantastic stuff :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 01:23:53 by ne7 ne7
I guess, the oscilloscope is driven by the color portion of the composite signal?
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 02:51:08 by Salinga Salinga
massive!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 07:24:55 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
This was cool! ...now get your old Amiga's up and running and make some demos again.
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 08:22:25 by maytz maytz
epic! <3 AYS is BACK!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 10:10:28 by dv$ dv$
Utter insanity :D Total madness. The demo kicks ass too :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 11:10:43 by psonice psonice
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 11:11:11 by Mystra Mystra
crazy platform is crazy
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 11:14:33 by psenough psenough
Wicked!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 11:22:50 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
A nice prod indeed. However:

Dexter, have you tried this on other PS2s than your own ? IOP is crashing. Are you relying on the one in your PS2 ?
added on the 2013-04-02 11:38:08 by gilligan gilligan
Glad to see Abyss and Dexter back. A nice surprise and a very nice production in the cruisin series.
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 12:24:15 by z5 z5
gilligan: Try the updated binaries (just use the download link), the old ones crashed.
added on the 2013-04-02 12:59:06 by bartman bartman
Both thumbs up. It's been a while since the PS2 got some scene love.
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 13:15:46 by Morden Morden
This was so epic! One of my favorite wild prods ever.
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 13:26:38 by Zavie Zavie
excellent prod! respect!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 13:37:14 by bonefish bonefish
Hi, i'm Dexter and i rule. Also lovely tune by Meo.
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 15:02:23 by Serpent Serpent
Fantastic - I love scopes! Also think I've figured it out now! :)

And you've made it to hackaday, so you should get a lot of interested people from there: hackaday.com/2013/04/02/dual-displays-on-a-playstation-2
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 15:59:29 by doz doz
Simply incredible!

I'm miles away from understanding this basically, but good thing that there are still surprises today. Respect!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 16:23:55 by kwe kwe
really cool thingie :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 16:56:45 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Abyss :D And that one did fucking rule :D
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 18:16:34 by SaphirJD SaphirJD
That is so over the top, i cannot find words. Big respect!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 19:06:54 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
(\oO/)
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 19:21:53 by kempy kempy
HI, I'M DEXTER

AND YOU ARE NOT
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 19:24:56 by rez rez
Rocks!
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 20:35:16 by s7ing^ATZ s7ing^ATZ
Holy crap this is awesome! I guess YouScope can suck it...
rulez added on the 2013-04-02 21:26:06 by sapperlott sapperlott
Scopetastic!
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 01:16:24 by Ook_ Ook_
:)
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 02:09:01 by ccr ccr
This is fantastic ! I really loved this one.

I worked a lot into video editing when this kind of analog oscilloscope was always plugged on the video outputs in video output factories. They're used to check the video levels for luma. Each horizontal blank signal (=line) drives the oscilloscope which draws the luminosity of the line (so if everything's black and one line is 25% gray, wherever it is on TV, on the waveform monitor you get one big flashy line on the bottom and a light line at 25% luma). You can Google Images for "video waveform luma" to find what I mean. Now for cost reasons such analog oscilloscopes are not used anymore, and a lot of editing software include a soft waveform monitor directly in the UI.

At the time I edited some Amiga/ST demos and I already noticed that objects containing raster colors (for instance, scrolltexts) appeared on the waveform monitor, perfectly visible, with different movements on the scope than on the video screen because the up/down movements where driven by the rasters' colors luminosity. That was fun to watch indeed, like another demo in the demo.

So my thoery is that they actually used this plain trick for the first part, the only thing is that it seems they have used slightly different settings to zoom into the waveform graph so that the "borders" of the graph are hidden in the scope borders.

For the second part (the dual screen part), my guess is that they used another setting to further zoom into the oscilloscope graph so that whites and blacks don't show up on the scope, and that they used hidden lines of the video signal to display greyscales that don't show on the TV (overscan) but are still decoded by the scope. Another theory is that they might have used very dark greys in the background to make the scope animation, in any case the scope rendering is very blurry, meaning they had to use only a subset of the scanlines or the luma scale (or both). Also don't forget that analog video use a luma scale that is larger than digital video with underblacks and overwhites.

I don't think the scopes are using the chroma part of the signal since the vertical bars that appears on the edge of some objects is a typical waveform filtering issue.
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 05:45:19 by fenarinarsa fenarinarsa
great! nice to see some fresh stuff from Abyss...

and if someone want the soundtrack: my commodore.ahx ;)
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 11:55:18 by starbuck starbuck
I have to thumb this up, but I would have done anyway, because it rocks! :) Great work Dexter (and team)
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 12:01:58 by raizor raizor
oh yeah
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 12:50:38 by wullon wullon
This was fucking awesome. I'm not usually too big on just doing the same old stuff on weird hardware, but actually the visuals themselves are really cool this time around.
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 13:00:09 by Preacher Preacher
and the music!
added on the 2013-04-03 13:00:19 by Preacher Preacher
Dexter! \o/
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 13:30:08 by Widdy Widdy
ace!
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 14:41:20 by gopher gopher
This is super awesome !
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 16:14:37 by TmEE TmEE
Love this unusual stuff. The wild compo is probably the most interesting of all.
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 20:02:21 by Cj Cj
Well done Dexter ;)
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 21:37:50 by GT GT
!!
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 21:58:26 by Frequent Frequent
Yeah!! Great tune as well!
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 22:08:15 by Alpha C Alpha C
VHS > HD 1080
rulez added on the 2013-04-03 23:33:02 by Rouquemoute Rouquemoute
I was a little bit involved when Dexter started this project on last years Revision... didn't expect that this would have such a great outcome!

And what a fuckin great tune by meo!
(and he didn't tell me anything a weak ago ;-)
rulez added on the 2013-04-04 00:02:01 by RufUsul RufUsul
i have "no f-ing clue" how this is done. winkwink nudgenudge.
rulez added on the 2013-04-04 01:09:44 by abductee abductee
having nothing to do with this one: wicked idea, and great cruise. love it!

(...still no selfvote)

dexter: wie bist du den auf DIE idee gekommen?!
added on the 2013-04-04 13:18:48 by Spin Spin
Great! :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-04 21:42:06 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
awesome idea!
rulez added on the 2013-04-05 00:06:26 by toxie toxie
OOH.. FUCK YEAH!
rulez added on the 2013-04-05 22:02:15 by nemesis nemesis
Quote:
The composite video signal is connected to all three displays without any further electronics.

So are you actually using a component (YPbPr) cable (which PS2 supports)? Or splitting the same composite signal 3-ways? Either way, great work.
rulez added on the 2013-04-05 22:33:17 by phoenix phoenix
the flow ! the flow ! such a great production. old school guys just know how to present right. respect.
rulez added on the 2013-04-05 23:04:07 by cosmicollie cosmicollie
Quote:
So are you actually using a component (YPbPr) cable (which PS2 supports)? Or splitting the same composite signal 3-ways? Either way, great work.

It's not component video, but really composite video split up to all 3 displays, no further electronics involved.

@Spin: Ich werde das mal alles irgendwann zusammenfassend berichten...
added on the 2013-04-05 23:53:31 by DexterAYS DexterAYS
awesome technology
rulez added on the 2013-04-06 15:39:39 by v3nom v3nom
Rocks!!
rulez added on the 2013-04-06 17:26:59 by BackSpace BackSpace
Interesting.
added on the 2013-04-06 22:59:00 by AntDude AntDude
<3
rulez added on the 2013-04-07 16:11:36 by moqui moqui
Very neat -- not just technically impressive but great production as well! If you're planning on doing colour next time, you could have it do a third simultaneous display on a PAL vectorscope...
rulez added on the 2013-04-09 23:35:05 by ats ats
How it works. Don't watch if you don't want to know :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCbb86jphn4
good old skul !
rulez added on the 2013-04-10 09:41:14 by fyrex fyrex
rulez added on the 2013-04-10 11:34:19 by krusty krusty
hardcore
rulez added on the 2013-04-12 00:01:24 by GΞN7LΞM4N GΞN7LΞM4N
Dexters are always killin' it...

Awesome.
rulez added on the 2013-04-13 09:08:59 by LovCAPONE LovCAPONE
What do I use to play/convert (to MP3) for the cool http://5tarbuck.net/stuff/my%20commodore.ahx tune? :(
added on the 2013-04-13 19:06:44 by AntDude AntDude
HVL2WAV can convert ahx files to wav files. Don't worry about the os4depot link, there is a windows binary in there as well as os4 :)
added on the 2013-04-13 19:23:43 by xeron xeron
hmmm just noticed the os4depot link is 1.0, which has old (read: buggy) replay code included. I dug around on my Amiga and found the 1.1 release, which you can download here.
added on the 2013-04-13 19:36:38 by xeron xeron
Xeron: Thank you. Do you know what the original used for quality rates? Is it really supposed to be 16 bit PCM, 2 channels, and 44100 Hz?
added on the 2013-04-14 22:09:52 by AntDude AntDude
Also, is it me or does its song's ending just stops? In the video, it fades out as an ending?
added on the 2013-04-14 22:15:10 by AntDude AntDude
the original is played back through Paula, so 4x 8bit pcm. I don't know what equivalent mixing frequency would make it sound like Paula... Anyway hvl2wav mixes it down to two stereo 16bit channels. As for the fade out, it is not encoded in the ahx file, it just loops forever. Hvl2wav stops after 10 minutes on looping songs, or you can specify a length. If you want it to fade out, any sound editor can do that easily afterwards.
added on the 2013-04-14 23:36:43 by xeron xeron
hmm.. Of course I don't know what mixing settings the ps2 replayer uses either.
added on the 2013-04-14 23:38:27 by xeron xeron
Xeron: Ah thanks.
added on the 2013-04-14 23:58:51 by AntDude AntDude
Oh fuck yes!! Great idea, great execution. Lovely tune too!!
rulez added on the 2013-04-15 00:34:08 by ferris ferris
yes yes
rulez added on the 2013-04-15 00:54:45 by cce cce
:O
rulez added on the 2013-04-15 01:09:23 by Buckethead Buckethead
Xeron: FYI, the WAV file was five minutes and 13 seconds long. Not 10 minutes. :)
added on the 2013-04-15 03:08:19 by AntDude AntDude
ok, then the song end detection detected the loop back and stopped. Just specify how long you want, and add a fade out in a sample editor.
added on the 2013-04-15 07:49:59 by xeron xeron
Heh, I tried that old http://www.the-leaders-of-the-eighties.de/static/download/WinAHX_1_0_Win9xNT.zip and it played forever (looping). I also noticed the instrument notes said the song was unfinished. Hmm!
added on the 2013-04-15 09:55:46 by AntDude AntDude
WOW!
ABYSS!
Still Cruisin! :D
excellent idea/job there! moar plz!
rulez added on the 2013-04-18 20:54:27 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
rulez added on the 2013-04-21 21:12:35 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
OMG (scream)
rulez added on the 2013-04-23 15:00:17 by NokoNoko NokoNoko
Nice :)
rulez added on the 2013-04-23 20:28:15 by Dbug Dbug
Apart from being well executed, this is a very cool watch in its own right, great music as always and nice presentation!
rulez added on the 2013-04-23 20:31:03 by keito keito
First part was a bit long for me, but the second part was so damn strong - especially the explanation. Perfectly presented :D
rulez added on the 2013-04-23 21:30:02 by evilpaul evilpaul
nice prod.
music is really really cool! Atari ST ROX!
rulez added on the 2013-04-30 20:04:24 by Cyprian Cyprian
Very tasty, old mate, i love it. Music is great, too.
rulez added on the 2013-05-18 14:32:08 by Moon Moon
good
rulez added on the 2013-07-29 17:01:26 by provod provod
very impressive. the graphics make it look kinda myserious.
the music is the best of this prod, which really screams the very subculture we love.

keep up the good work !! one of the (if not THE) best demo/s on ps2 hardware.
rulez added on the 2013-08-24 13:49:03 by webodan webodan
(:
rulez added on the 2013-09-08 15:32:43 by metoikos metoikos
Geiler Scheiss <3
rulez added on the 2013-10-31 19:28:32 by mog mog
This was super! Has all that a real wild entry should have :)
rulez added on the 2014-03-03 09:54:21 by tFt tFt
Cool! :)
rulez added on the 2014-04-09 02:44:33 by mke mke
I forgot about this. Here is my thumb. Any chance for an audio recording of the composite signal in FLAC or WAV format?
@Luis: composite is a video signal which can't be recorded in FLAC or WAV ;-)
Anyway a video recording would be nice for anyone with an oscilloscope but without a PS2...
i sent a request to Dexter
added on the 2014-04-10 09:49:25 by RufUsul RufUsul
Wild indeed! This hack is sick as hell! Seriously, this is just insane!
rulez added on the 2014-04-10 10:44:06 by TomoAlien TomoAlien
Absolutely fantastic in every way <3
rulez added on the 2014-04-15 21:26:05 by mermaid mermaid
Analog pwnage !
rulez added on the 2014-11-15 13:41:51 by Xyl2k Xyl2k
Forgotten thumb, this was and still is bloody awesome! :)
rulez added on the 2015-04-19 23:06:21 by StingRay StingRay
Dexter, you´re insane ;)
rulez added on the 2015-12-20 21:17:26 by Virgill Virgill
this is truly the best demo i've ever seen <3
i mean, commodore 64 music made with a tracker developed for the amiga 500 assisted by oscilloscope-drawn graphics, all on a ps2. Dexter, you're the best <3
rulez added on the 2016-10-25 08:38:11 by bytemaniak bytemaniak
this is really great
rulez added on the 2016-12-12 19:53:36 by EviL EviL

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