Back to oldschool by Mystic Bytes [web]
screenshot added by Blast! on 2016-11-15 23:43:45
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release date : november 2016
release party : Silly Venture 2016
compo : atari demo
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 20
  • is ok 9
  • sucks 1
popularity : 56%
  • rulez 0.63
alltime top: #6758
added on the 2016-11-15 23:43:45 by Blast! Blast!

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Nice presentation, shame about the bugs.
rulez added on the 2016-11-15 23:53:49 by spkr spkr
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 07:46:39 by sINk sINk
spkr, youtube isn't from real hardware. unfortunately Hatari still doesn't properly emulate the BLiTTER and cpu interaction
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 09:41:35 by Blast! Blast!
Pretty cool show!
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 12:18:52 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
For some reason it locks up with black screen on my STE with Swedish 1.62 TOS.
And if I try to run the demo in Hatari with that ROM configured I get some kind of "bus error", so it really seems like the demo isn't compatible with that ROM.
I can get it to run it in Hatari by choosing for example a 2.06 ROM instead.
added on the 2016-11-16 13:57:19 by Sdw Sdw
Cyprian, the lower border does not stay open on the real hardware and the polygon drawing does the occaisional wordfilling outside the polygon. It occurred on the bigscreen and on my hardware as well.
added on the 2016-11-16 14:12:16 by spkr spkr
very nice demo!
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 14:38:10 by piotr_kni piotr_kni
Sdw BTOS works ok under Hatari/STE/1.06/4MB. The demo needs at least 2MB of RAM.
spkr, ok lower border will be corrected. Regarding polygons issue, I have no idea, will ask Wachu.
added on the 2016-11-16 14:44:29 by Blast! Blast!
...the polygon drawing does the occaisional wordfilling outside the polygon. It occurred on the bigscreen and on my hardware as well.

Hello spkr. I know that issue, it happens sometimes when I compute masks/offsets for long and very thin polygons (1-2 pixels wide). I invented absolutely new way to calculate masks/offsets (no more addx, I totaly omit coords calculations and go straight to masks/offsets computations), but it still needs some improvements. Btw I used blitter to do that; all process takes only 16 cycles (m68k) per offset/mask pair.
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 22:15:49 by Wachu Wachu
I don't care about the little polygon filler bug. But I can't stand the fact that you spoiled the mirror illusion when you decided to forget about the upside down flip of the vertical axis.

You should fix it! Mirrors always invert the images!
added on the 2016-11-16 23:06:32 by ham ham
The music is too happy. Proper oldskool music is in a minor key.
rulez added on the 2016-11-16 23:13:57 by yzi yzi
Love it! Flat shaded ploys are the new black ;)

And chip sound plus digi drums I always adore :)

Ps. As it's an STE why not real mirror? Via blitter or via timer b setting line address?
rulez added on the 2016-11-17 00:36:53 by Heaven/TQA Heaven/TQA
Oldschool is not STe 2MB to me ;-)
As mentionned there are lots of glitch, not only on small polys and sometimes it goes really slow. Sad for the mirror but I believe it's easy to fix.
Thank for all responses.

@Cyg - all effects expect last runs in 50 frames, please press Ctrl and you'll see processor usage. :)

@Heaven and Ham - proper mirror is easy to implement, but both methods consume processor time - blitter about 10%, timer b with address switching in each line of bottom border also takes a few % and it's quite sensitive to blitter usage (massive in this demo). 10% CPU time equals 20% smaller polygons, it's unacceptable - so we decided to switch on quite nice pseudo-mirror which takes 0% CPU time (!!!) - thanks to Cyprian idea and code.

More technical information you will find on info page: http://www.pouet.net/prod_nfo.php?which=68506
added on the 2016-11-17 09:46:54 by Wachu Wachu

in spite of

decided to switch on quite nice pseudo-mirror

(which isn't quite nice but plainly looks just all wrong), you wouldn't hesitate to selfvote for your prod. So let me just even that out.

(I feel a bit sorry though, as the rest of the demo is neatly designed.)
sucks added on the 2016-11-17 11:09:27 by Sir Sir
Not in this revolution and revelation. General ST demo competition was weak this year. Intro powered by DKD imho was better than all ST demos ;)
added on the 2016-11-17 15:08:30 by unity1 unity1
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added on the 2016-11-17 15:32:04 by yzi yzi
rulez added on the 2016-11-17 21:55:57 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
Mirror part prevents me from thumbing this up, it just looks plain bad and made me tihink "space cut please, spaaaaaceee cut" the whole time. Nice demo other.
added on the 2016-11-17 22:43:41 by StingRay StingRay
+wise. :D
added on the 2016-11-17 22:44:23 by StingRay StingRay
What others say, mirrors and placing whole demo on almost one routine doesn't cut it. Piggdy for the nice speed of some parts.
Another awesome one :)
rulez added on the 2016-11-19 16:15:59 by Saphir Saphir
Come on, it's not a mirror effect, it's clearly some kind of an optical lense.
added on the 2016-11-20 14:12:01 by yzi yzi
Sweet design & cool music =)
rulez added on the 2016-11-20 17:26:01 by hylst hylst
Not bad! Like it, but the incorrect mirroring is annoying...
added on the 2016-11-20 19:45:42 by Daniel Daniel
Nice polygon routine (even it's buggy sometimes)
rulez added on the 2016-11-24 10:39:13 by roudoudou roudoudou
who said it is a mirror?
added on the 2016-11-24 12:05:05 by _AdamK_ _AdamK_
Smooth 3D and Nice innovative code! Gfx and digidrum msx are cool! :)
rulez added on the 2016-11-30 00:19:00 by Templeton Templeton
Nice! :-D
rulez added on the 2016-12-03 17:08:58 by baah baah
added on the 2016-12-09 01:12:59 by Frequent Frequent
Tune + style
rulez added on the 2016-12-25 03:35:56 by cxw cxw
looks nice!
rulez added on the 2017-01-24 17:50:14 by lvd lvd
Nice. "0 CPU time" mirror almost work for me with symmetric 3d objets, I would have withdrawn the graphics from the mirror. Great tune!
rulez added on the 2017-01-24 18:44:16 by Buckethead Buckethead
Very sweet production, thanks for keeping STe alive!
rulez added on the 2017-02-18 23:17:40 by Strider Strider
vectordemo st with some flaws
thumb for flow & style
rulez added on the 2017-03-19 11:04:35 by T$ T$
nice one... unforunately a bit buggy...
rulez added on the 2018-01-05 20:27:00 by ultra ultra

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