Alexander Litvinenko
category: general [glöplog]
Don't you think it's a very cinema like story? I hope someone gets the rights to do a cool oldschool adventure game :)
Just tip of the iceberg.
How much contract-kills have been committed in the last month in Russia to take out challengers in upcoming elections?
It's very dangerous that Putin's actions don't get into the spotlight as those of the current U.S. regime.
Vladimir has done all that with an eyeblink what Bush & Co. have to cover up and whitewash by their media outfits.
Let's see what happens 2008 as it is an election year in both countries.
How much contract-kills have been committed in the last month in Russia to take out challengers in upcoming elections?
It's very dangerous that Putin's actions don't get into the spotlight as those of the current U.S. regime.
Vladimir has done all that with an eyeblink what Bush & Co. have to cover up and whitewash by their media outfits.
Let's see what happens 2008 as it is an election year in both countries.
What the shit? Relax, guys. Bad guys often ends bad. Serve to the one side, after that serve to it's opponent, make deals with mafia boss, etc. - is that guy looks like an angel? It's stupid to sympathize such guys (or may be you just watched gangster movies too much?). It's even more stupid to blame government. Mafia has a longer arms, boys, don't play with them :)
Anyway, stop this shit, please.
Anyway, stop this shit, please.
The last years press coverage of russian politics leads me to the opinion, that Putin's government is kind of Mafia-like organisation.
as you say.. the press writes about it nowadays. putin havent really been forced to do stuff like this discreetly before, soon he will learn from his american friends to do it without us ever hearing about it.
uncle_H and Photoshop, do you really still believe in press? Good luck, my naive friends :) Don't you know that some major press houses are really owned by mafia bosses (whatever you should call them - capitalists, members of parliament or senate, etc.)? You read such bullshit too often, I guess, and take that articles (written by vendible paperback writers) too seriously.
Better watch the "Fahrenheit 9/11" movie - it shows you american "gas pipe of dream" through Avganistan and Chechnya - may be you became to understand who and why for makes the war in that regions. I even do not talk about Iraq's and Vietnam's oil. And you still believe what your press tell you, all that "evel russians" and so on. Oh, my God. You are obviously in the Matrix and never saw a real world :)
Better watch the "Fahrenheit 9/11" movie - it shows you american "gas pipe of dream" through Avganistan and Chechnya - may be you became to understand who and why for makes the war in that regions. I even do not talk about Iraq's and Vietnam's oil. And you still believe what your press tell you, all that "evel russians" and so on. Oh, my God. You are obviously in the Matrix and never saw a real world :)
What is, pray tell, the alternative to press for getting the news? Government sponsored information? Asking random people in the street?
i did not know that mentioned anything about how the press works. since it was rather irrelevant to my post.
yeeee! We are wicked communists! Ha-ha-ha! Lenin - alive!
I'm sure Putin is already doing necessary assassinations discreetly like his American friends, as lator put it.
These murders that we hear about are surely done by his opponents who want to put him in a bad light. ;)
These murders that we hear about are surely done by his opponents who want to put him in a bad light. ;)
tribão, you bring the hope back to me (I almost thought there are no more brains in Europe and America, especially after Adok's political HUGI issue :)
_-__-_, you can get news as you did it in old good quest and role-playing computer games: asking people who really envolved, not everyone on the street. Not anyone who "heard about", but who "did it".
Anyway, as I see, most guys here believe in James Bond (or may be even in Harry Potter?). True, Putin has own super secret agent, he'll kill everyone who said a word against Mr.President. Or may be russian Harry Potter bewitched Alexander Litvinenko with horrible curse? Definitely, he did it. A big reason to feared us, russians!
And yes, dear demosceners, Putin has computer, which can beat your computers. Viva!
_-__-_, you can get news as you did it in old good quest and role-playing computer games: asking people who really envolved, not everyone on the street. Not anyone who "heard about", but who "did it".
Anyway, as I see, most guys here believe in James Bond (or may be even in Harry Potter?). True, Putin has own super secret agent, he'll kill everyone who said a word against Mr.President. Or may be russian Harry Potter bewitched Alexander Litvinenko with horrible curse? Definitely, he did it. A big reason to feared us, russians!
And yes, dear demosceners, Putin has computer, which can beat your computers. Viva!
Maenwe, the press houses you are talking about are still trying to tell us that Putin's Russia is a well working democracy.
But well, if you need to label me a naive boy, do so.
And, no, I do not believe in press. I believe in facts.
And just so you know: Noone here blamed russians. Noone said that russians are evil.
But well, if you need to label me a naive boy, do so.
And, no, I do not believe in press. I believe in facts.
And just so you know: Noone here blamed russians. Noone said that russians are evil.
Very stupid story this all, and of cause what mass media sais to you in europe is all brainwashing, think by yourself, what was the reason to use rare polonium isotope (with time of life about 100 days) instead of for example plutonium which is about as radiactive but with much higher time of life and thus is almost cannot be found (one milligram of it I mean). Don't you think it is very stupid for president to do something like this?
we have polonium that can beat your polonium
as i expect many people to see thru this thread,
i want to express here my kindly fuckings to the kewlers for quitting the demoscene.
i want to express here my kindly fuckings to the kewlers for quitting the demoscene.
discussing politics is so 1995
Tone roxx :)
uncle_H, Russia is not "Putin's". It's mine :) And Tone's as well.
Anyway, I saw a lot of negative european press about Russia (and, by the way, my sister lives in Germany, and I often can't believe what she say about "Putin theme" in german mass media!). You said "facts". Where you diged them from? Your Matrix again? :)
About "well working democracy": you should remember as Mr.Bush said (in the theme of "democracy in Russia") "we brought democracy into Iraq" and Mr.Putin said "We better have no such democracy here". Yes, the joke of the year. But think, why anyone should care about democracy in other country? Isn't it a pure self interest (money, resources, territory)? Could your government guarantee a happy life to you only by treating other countries (like USA did), solving own problems only by making more problems in another country?
People here can decide what is good and what is bad for them, no assistance needed. I mean, forget about "well working democracy" or "bad working democracy" at all. It will never be the same as it is in your country. So, let's talk about the things common for us: music, art, demos, etc.
Peace.
uncle_H, Russia is not "Putin's". It's mine :) And Tone's as well.
Anyway, I saw a lot of negative european press about Russia (and, by the way, my sister lives in Germany, and I often can't believe what she say about "Putin theme" in german mass media!). You said "facts". Where you diged them from? Your Matrix again? :)
About "well working democracy": you should remember as Mr.Bush said (in the theme of "democracy in Russia") "we brought democracy into Iraq" and Mr.Putin said "We better have no such democracy here". Yes, the joke of the year. But think, why anyone should care about democracy in other country? Isn't it a pure self interest (money, resources, territory)? Could your government guarantee a happy life to you only by treating other countries (like USA did), solving own problems only by making more problems in another country?
People here can decide what is good and what is bad for them, no assistance needed. I mean, forget about "well working democracy" or "bad working democracy" at all. It will never be the same as it is in your country. So, let's talk about the things common for us: music, art, demos, etc.
Peace.
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i distrust your politicians at least as much as our own
Very well, Havoc, let's distrust "free independent press" as well, because it's almost the same.
I distrust our media, our politicians, and your politicians too :-)
indeed! for example, trace elements of polonium were found in arsenal football stadium- everybody knows that's where the frenchies play- and the russians are @ chelsea- why isn't the press suspecting mr. chirac?!
you seem not to really understand that there's never gonna be anybody you can trust not to have any sort of external motivation, manwe. It is through the balance of conflictual interests that you can get adequate collision, necessary for information to break out to the public. If I want to start a newspaper I should very well be free to do so, whatever my motivations are. I really don't get your gripe with the free press. It's certainly no worse than state-controlled press, especially since there's a great deal more room for those necessary conflicts of interests I talked about earlier in this very long paragraph.
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discussing politics is so 1995
