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Scene-related articles up for deletion on Wikipedia

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So, some exclusionist wikipedian nominated the Blockparty article for deletion within a minute of its creation. Nice. Anyway, the old "it's as notable as any other demoparty" logic may have backfired, with one particularly confrontational editor pledging to nominate all the other party articles for deletion.

If you can dedicate some time to finding outside-the-scene references to demoparties in general, or just weigh in on the AfD vote page for each page on the chopping block, the history of the scene will appreciate your effort.
added on the 2007-11-19 19:43:26 by myself myself
cue truck.
added on the 2007-11-19 19:54:09 by Gargaj Gargaj
i really wouldnt like to go in a discussion here, so let's stick to "some people on wikipedia are a bit trigger-happy".
added on the 2007-11-19 19:57:27 by Gargaj Gargaj
Gargaj: back in the usenet (tezcat) days, this is what was referred to as a 'Truck Troll.'

And, it's very, very difficult not to respond to it.
Okay, fill me in on the truck thing.
added on the 2007-11-19 20:09:47 by myself myself
I believe there is a "don't call in reinforcements" section in the wikipedia rules (atleast there are in the Swedish version). Which means that if you don't are a regular editor on wikipedia it might not be such a good idea to register and vote against deletion.
added on the 2007-11-19 20:11:10 by El Topo El Topo
That said, one can always point to the fact that Intel is sponsoring something that could be called a demoparty. If a phenomenon is important enough for Intel to take intrest in it sure is relevant to Wikipedia.
added on the 2007-11-19 20:15:04 by El Topo El Topo
i'm a regular editor (i just clocked at my 5000th edit recently) so i voted
added on the 2007-11-19 21:03:17 by Gargaj Gargaj
We've been through this before. Calling people in didn't help, it just proved that wikipedia's process (and therefore it's information) sucks. Everyone new who didn't speak wikipedian got labelled a 'sock puppet' and the wikitards went ahead with promoting their state of information fashion.
Don't try to fight it. Domain-knowledge won't help you. You don't have enough 'points'. Correcting a few thousand punctuation errors will get you points (no offense, Gargaj) and randomly deleting articles that aren't babysat will also get you points. The swarm of spell-checkers and random deleters will decide if your information is more important than Fraggle Rock trivia, and they've convinced themselves that this is the path to truth. After all, there's a wikipedia article about it.
added on the 2007-11-19 21:31:48 by GbND GbND
i dont correct punctuations errors, i place them deliberately :D
added on the 2007-11-19 21:38:06 by Gargaj Gargaj
back in the days of usenet there was wikipedia?!?!?!? :P
@Gargaj: well, that's okay then. : D
added on the 2007-11-19 21:43:01 by GbND GbND
OMG, how can people say that that party wasn't notable? There was a dead guy holding a presentation there!!!

(If you don't believe me try clicking the Jim "Trixer" Leonard link on Block Party's wikipedia page ;-)
added on the 2007-11-20 00:00:35 by sparcus sparcus
BgND - blasphemer!!! everybody knows that wiki is the truth of truths, the most high, the authority to end any debate.
added on the 2007-11-20 00:08:13 by NoahR NoahR
This is all just proves of how sucky democracy is.
added on the 2007-11-20 00:17:41 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
rmeht, you're not making it easier by vandalizing the page.
added on the 2007-11-20 00:51:12 by Gargaj Gargaj
That's a job for... SUPER GARGAJ... oh wait. He already posted here :)
added on the 2007-11-20 02:10:26 by xernobyl xernobyl
just go to the scene wiki and add all you want.
added on the 2007-11-20 02:45:42 by phoenix phoenix
Quote:
This is all just proves of how sucky democracy is.

Yes, if you define democracy as the rule of a bunch of self proclaimed know-it-alls.
added on the 2007-11-20 07:04:29 by El Topo El Topo
Do you guys really think the demoscene is that interesting?
added on the 2007-11-20 08:15:35 by hollowman hollowman
I second hollowman here. Let's work on making it interesting rather than screaming that it is.
added on the 2007-11-20 08:22:57 by _-_-__ _-_-__
Deletion is the 1st step towards becoming underground once again.
Also, someone should hack and delete this.
nutman, word! and all sceners should move to squats!
added on the 2007-11-20 09:49:54 by skrebbel skrebbel
aw come on nutman that was a pretty fun initiative taken by these blokes. I found it a delight to read about anyway :)
Have you forgotten how we back in the amiga days were hyped if there was a 5 minute tv spot about the demoscene, it was recognition, and now we have a mastodont like nvidia looking interrested at it, how is that for recognition?!

el topo, that is the best description of democracy i have heard in ages.
added on the 2007-11-20 10:09:50 by NoahR NoahR
Those 5 minute TV spots tended to be pretty cringeworthy.
added on the 2007-11-20 10:19:07 by doomdoom doomdoom

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