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Viagralized!

i'd like to play that one backwards on a lower pitch with lots of reverb.
let's revive the idm remix chain!

@Evil I'd love to have vocals like that in the original (remix), but I couldn't afford to hire voice actors :(

@Virgill: I heard it was hardware! You can't get that much phatness with software! Everyone on the Internet agrees on that!

ok here it is... i hope it's ok :)

download me

ooopps .. ive fëcked up the link in the post above

Here you GO!

So, what's all this then? Serious attempts? :S

Hmm I might give it a shot at midday (master only, no time for mix), I've never quite mastered synth/electronic music before. That might prove interesting :)
tEiS and daXX, these are remasters only, right ?

actually it's a mastering from the individual channels.
have you ever been into breakbeats from the 90's ? :)

you're the 'funk' moby, the acoustic guy??

if so .. HELLO!!! :D

i've mixed all the channels new :)

I only took the premaster version...

tEiS : I'm this Moby, not this Moby if that's what you asked. I've never done any breakbeats. (does that mean that if I'm not the Moby you were thinking, I don't deserve a "hello" ?? ;))

Here's my take, done from the premaster version in about 30 min, no remix as I think lugOOber's mix was really ok (might just need a bit more width in the stereo field). I'm not saying my master is better than any of the other masters, but this is closer to what I like to hear :)
But anyhow, a good master has to be done with the composer and the mixer, so I doubt any of our masterings will please lug00ber.

Hyperbiased :)

i don't.

no i meant if you are THE moby who made the kickass soundtrack for ART by Sanity :) ..

and well, your mix is also pretty ok and yes, it's lug00ber to decide which sounds best.

i've figured that my snare isn't kickin as it should be :P

The Lugoober's track just needs some less sub-frequencies on the bass sound itself by lowering/cutting them down with a highpass filter. Sub/Low frequencies are the one with the higher wavelength with strong energy. Any abuse should be hunted down so the whole mix balance (levels/frequencies) isn't deaden by those low frequencies especially when using a limiter to gain some dB (and a good limiter is all you really need to give a final touch if your mix is good and well balanced). After all those practises are the root of what pre-mastering was in the vynil groove recorders era.

Bad sound, lack of dynamics and witdh, low levels are often (always to me) the results of a "bad" mix.
(and in the vynil era, the bad mix was sent back to the studio and the engineer was eventually fired!) ;)

Yep, I had to do a hipass @ 40Hz or so

I have to add this is something you have to learn to deal with when you master other people's work. There was too much low end, that's a fact, but that doesn't mean the mix was bad. That just means lug00ber probably works on a system which doesn't render low frequencies accurately :)

dalezy: if you bother with that drone version i'll do a glitch noise one ;)

it's amazing how different all the mixups are...

for my taste it's a bit to much compressor on some elements in teis version.
and for my taste on moby's to much middle freq. and the bass lost...

it's a taste and indeed a part of each musicstyles how the endresult has to sound finaly...

lug00ber should choose his favorite. :) maybe he choose his original ;)

A matter of taste and sound systems I guess ;)
On my monitors (Mackie hr824 for those interested), there's a big hole in the mid frequencies of your master, daXX. That can mean three things : either you dislike mid frequencies, or your monitor tend to boost mid frequencies, so you have to diminish them, or I love mid frequencies too much. (I wouldn't fault the Mackies)
As for the bass, I feel it's more defined with less low end, hence the hipass filter. I really have a hard time figuring the bass notes on your master. tEiS's master is a bit "better" on this particular matter, and seems more well balanced frequency-wise, but still too much low end. (the Mackies go as low as 37Hz, so at high volume, those low frequencies are quite disturbing... :P)
My master is not perfect either. I'd say the drums might be a bit too dynamic and dry, but I'm used to master metal bands, in which drums often drive the songs. So that's probably a bad habit :)

oh! monitors!
as I spent all my money on original software I can't afford those... :|

Moby: same analysis here about Daxx and tEiS re-masters (Genelec monitors for those who care). I didn't want to mean that Lugoober's mix is bad. I think it is deaden all the way because of a huge amount of low frequencies. Too much low-freq directly impact the whole RMS level and tend to shut off any kind of dynamic in the spectrum.

I think it just can be fixed in the mix itself on that particular subbass sound. It would level up all the other tracks legibility.They already seem to suffer from some frequency "conflicts" i.e the drums: they have enough attack and good compression and they should have more impact.

Well, I must say that I am a bit allergic to "home" pre-mastering especially when pro mastering studios are already able to fuck up some very good mixes made in very good studios (even in jazz where they have started to use FM-like compression some years ago...)

None of my tracks are mastered (just some limiting on the mix bus. it forces me to achieve the best sound quality I can) and that's fine to me.

Oh and by the way mate, content de te voir ici ! :)

dunno about your sound systems but on my cheap altec lansing gaming one coupled with an active audiophony loudspeaker elmobo's mastering work is clearly the most enjoyable.

really nice mastering jobs folk. I prefer Moby's, as everyone and his dog allready has stated, it all comes down to taste. There are no "correct" way of mastering a track, to some its a virtue to destroy the end sound as much as possible. Usually when people think a production is "professional" just means there is a lot of air in the mix.. a great help if you have somewhat unreliable equipment is to learn how to use and trust analyzers to visually work with sound. You may not hear that some basskey is doing monkey business in the mix, but you can learn how to see it happening.

EVIL, take a look at extremeit (brand), they have a set of pc speakers consisting of two small sattelites and a small bass/main unit. They dont play very loud, but keep them at level and they are very precise. I got them for a gaming machine, they go for 35£ a set, and was blwon out of my socks by them when thinking of the price range they are in. I later discovered that they apparently are quite "the thing" amongst ghetto psytrancers for their precision. ...that and they look real nice actually, even have one of those everywhere present blue LED's :)

seriously, who the fuck decreed that every electronic device has to feature a blue led for activity ?? i can't stand it anymore! and that's wasting energy :p