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added on the 2015-10-18 01:36:44 by hfr |
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Holy sheet. Yes. YES! YES!!! Time to fire up the neglected '060s again, love this! Now make a longer train for Revision. :)
Yes - that was something which ruled.. too bad it was rather short ;)
wow. this rocks hard
The demo is nice, but honestly wtf... a mix of german and english in the title?
For what reason exactly?
You should be a little more consistent here.
Stick to one language next time, please.
Unless you want to make a historical reference, but do you?
It just sounds as stupid as for example: "The last trip to München"
For what reason exactly?
You should be a little more consistent here.
Stick to one language next time, please.
Unless you want to make a historical reference, but do you?
It just sounds as stupid as for example: "The last trip to München"
The only correct forms are:
"Der letzte Zug nach Danzig"
or
"The last train to Gdańsk"
"Der letzte Zug nach Danzig"
or
"The last train to Gdańsk"
OK about the title... about the démo?
As I said, demo is nice. I would give a thumb.
hfr: oh really, so why you say: "Presented at Danzig" later on ?
While "Presented at LoadError in Gdańsk" is the right form.
Also, if you want to really emphasise German / Polish cooperation, why not:
"Ostatni przystanek Danzig", or something like that, but still sounds silly.
As for now, this rather suggest English / German cooperation, if not just being just a language mistake.
"Ostatni przystanek Danzig", or something like that, but still sounds silly.
As for now, this rather suggest English / German cooperation, if not just being just a language mistake.
Too short, but what's there is top class. Clear thumbs up.
Also five posts criticising the title of the demo has to be some kind of record.
Also five posts criticising the title of the demo has to be some kind of record.
And just one more thing (sorry for writing in chunks, its kinda late).
"The last train to Danzig" would make sense as a historical reference, say the last train going to Danzig, the city that existed between 1920-1939, and was renamed to Gdańsk (in Polish and English) few years later. However, this is very clear message/reference (at least to every educated person) and no, it doesn't suggest Polish/German cooperation as you say your intention was.
Now, if this would be the case, which as an artistic expression is totally fine, you should still write "Presented at Load Error in Gdańsk (in 2015)" as you are referring to present days.
"The last train to Danzig" would make sense as a historical reference, say the last train going to Danzig, the city that existed between 1920-1939, and was renamed to Gdańsk (in Polish and English) few years later. However, this is very clear message/reference (at least to every educated person) and no, it doesn't suggest Polish/German cooperation as you say your intention was.
Now, if this would be the case, which as an artistic expression is totally fine, you should still write "Presented at Load Error in Gdańsk (in 2015)" as you are referring to present days.
"Danzig" has been a valid name for Gdańsk for centuries, no wonder it still sticks around a bit. I've seen contemporary Dutch and English language sources still using that historical name. No need to nitpick over such a detail if the prod is that good, imho.
tomkh: Are you for real? That level of butthurt is off the scale. Why don't you go danzig in the rain a bit? That might calm you down.
Trains.. What's next clocks? (Hi slayer ;))
Anyway great to see the ghostown cooperating with the Haujobb. I remember a certain msg at ADA website asking about it..
Hope this is the start of a great cooperation. Didn't expect hellfire to be part of it. Great great.. Hope a big demo will see the light in 2016 than.. Keep it up guys!!! Cheers!!!
Anyway great to see the ghostown cooperating with the Haujobb. I remember a certain msg at ADA website asking about it..
Hope this is the start of a great cooperation. Didn't expect hellfire to be part of it. Great great.. Hope a big demo will see the light in 2016 than.. Keep it up guys!!! Cheers!!!
Short but nice
holy shit! nice (even if simple) concept and very stylish! "last train to danzig" is a perfect title because it looks and sounds stylish too :D
Good code, good music, good graphics, good direction = awesome demo!
A really nice demo, even if the pacing felt a bit odd at places. And the length was just perfect :)
I like it! Also, I recall meeting Hellfire at Evoke 2015 and asking him when he would release a new demo, to which he replied he was not planning to release a new demo any more. I am glad to see he changed his mind!
Awesome demo! Great style and pacing! And so polish-ed! :)
Cool (the train goes from Wollstein?)
A bit short but nice trip. Good work, machinists!
Wonderful! But short.
This is really great!!! I wish it was a bit longer :)
Short, but what a great trip !
WOW! Never thought i´ll ever see a ghostown/hjb coop :)
Grammar nazi in the thread! :)
Nice :) And not too short at all.
An extra thumb for noname! Neglect the drama please.. We need more productions like this! Extraordinary WOW in your face train ride productions;-) also nice meeting you in Amsterdam last June! Cheers mate! (To bad there isn't any scroller to hack in this prod. Darn ;-)
amazing gfx in every scene, backed with great tune in perfect sync.
Really great! A little short ride...
What a nice but short ride
Woohoo, awsome!!!
noname: I agree that Steampunk theme fits well to Danzig, just not in "presented in...". Also hfr suggested different reason, hence my response. Anyway, its your choice, if other people like, even better. I just wanted to point out its incorrect to refer to the city like this in present days. What part of my message is rude or insulting or making any kind of allegations? It is chunked and split into few messages, because pouet doesn't let you reedit and precisely, because I was afraid I will be understood wrongly. Yet really sorry if it sounds like a stuborn conservative/whatever - that is far from what I meant.
Waaay too short, but nice one. Thumb up!
Ghostown has no equal in the art department.
Great.
Fantastic design! Great effects!
I love the fact that it's so short. Thanks to that fact the demo has a nice pace and feels good.
Art Departament is Pro!
I love the fact that it's so short. Thanks to that fact the demo has a nice pace and feels good.
Art Departament is Pro!
For artistic part and the flow. Lots of good work there.
wow, great one!
mind blown. after reading the hardware specs, mind blown again.
A Ghostown demo about trains - who'd have expected that? ;)
Short but sweet. Always nice to see a 3D-heavy AGA demo that doesn't look like pixelated texture goulash.
My favourite AGA-prod from Ghostown so far. While others may have "felt larger" I really like this one for being compact and punchy.
Obviously very professional code (as one would expect) and a much more consistent experience than any amiga-demo from Haujobb ever was.
Obviously very professional code (as one would expect) and a much more consistent experience than any amiga-demo from Haujobb ever was.
How the fuck?
I hate the theme but the effects are the shit.
I hate the theme but the effects are the shit.
Massive fantastic shit, awesome
Great demo, a bit too short for me (I wanted more !!!), but nice concept and execution. Also it was great to see guys from both Ghostown and Haujobb at our party. Cool way to celebrate Amiga's 30th ;)
That rocked the party place. :)
Fantastic demo! I love it! I want more!
Lovely intro, where's the rest of the demo ;-)
Nice demo with great reception at the party! I hope it is a teaser as I want more:)
Awesome direction, but two minutes too short!
Nice 060 demo but kinda short
great!
entertaining.
Not much of anything, but it was nice while it lasted :)
I'm fine with short demos, but there's something oddly hollow about a demo that consists of nothing but titles and credits for itself (even if those titles and credits are brilliantly crafted, as they are here). It's like the demo equivalent of this sketch.
I liked what I saw! More of this please.
God damn it !!! You guyz rock! My best greetz to the Danzig train - aus Stettin! ;-)
I'm with Gasman on this one, looks and sounds awesome but seems to consist of just a credits part (which sure looks ace) and some graphics for me. Doesn't work as demo for me.
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It's like the demo equivalent of this sketch.
Gasman, that sketch and this demo have an identical 2 min 16 sec runtime. Is this spooky coincidence, or careful preselection on your part?
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the title of the demo and the screen-design was actually proposed by our friends from the art department and everybody liked it (...) And you do realize that they are Polish, don’t you?
And you do realize it was mainly Jewish people in the trains like this to Danzig/Stutthof, don't you?
But yeah, nevermind, I understand it is unintentional. Also there is completely no association with the movie "Der letzte Zug" (The last train). So let it be what it is - Steampunk with Zubruvka cargo.
Nice!
Damn!
Short but every second is enjoyable ! Great prod !
Very nice and fast demo with good pacing. Impressive credits scene.
Runs pretty good here on my Apollo 060/66/32MB (no startup sequence but SetPatch loaded).
Runs pretty good here on my Apollo 060/66/32MB (no startup sequence but SetPatch loaded).
Pozamiatane.
Too short unfortunately, but all what is there is very well done.
What's there is awesome, awesome, awesome! But yes, Gasman has a point - it's not too short per se, but a bit hollow. Still, thumb up because as I said, what's there is awesome, ... :)
Great demo, I enjoy it very much on party place. See you on next party (Revision?).
Too short, but what's there is top class. [2]
Nice work!
And partially pretty strange comments regarding the town's name here.
And partially pretty strange comments regarding the town's name here.
What a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious demo in all aspects (except that it's way too short). And silly discussion here.
Preacher: the discussion may in fact appear silly, as this is merely a language mistake. I admitted it's fairly ok already and thumb the demo up. And I don't know why people like putt3r are still digging the topic?!
For foreigners to understand: it can be compared to a situation that let say you have a party in Leipzig and you put "Presented in Leipsic, Germany" for artistical reasons, as Leipsic is the old English name before it was renamed to Leipzig. There should be nothing wrong for people living in the current Leipzig, just a minor language mistake. Not that I think it makes sense, but it certainly doesn't hurt anyone. I also should myself be a bit more delicate in voicing my point next time.
For foreigners to understand: it can be compared to a situation that let say you have a party in Leipzig and you put "Presented in Leipsic, Germany" for artistical reasons, as Leipsic is the old English name before it was renamed to Leipzig. There should be nothing wrong for people living in the current Leipzig, just a minor language mistake. Not that I think it makes sense, but it certainly doesn't hurt anyone. I also should myself be a bit more delicate in voicing my point next time.
Yes!! Great show, just too short! :)
I would really like us to talk more about the title of the prod and the fact that people care so much.
Fscking cool! Do Gdańska zawsze pociągiem!
what is there is really nice and polish(ed) but it feels to me like it tries to be more epic than it actually is, given the rather low amount of actual content and the fact that slayers train pic isnt exactly fresh.
still, a very solid and nice production and i dont have any problem with the name either :)
still, a very solid and nice production and i dont have any problem with the name either :)
Great demo! I love every part of it, specially the Zubrowka cargo on the train to Danzig (both being an actual party reference). The code and the art quality doesn't need any extra comment from me, I'd just cite what others already said. For the party org such demo is a dream come true, so thanks for your support, I hope the party coding didn't suck that much this time and Zubrowka's taste in our party's atmosphere was a kind of the reward too ;) Noname - thanks for your personal effort (visiting the party just for a few hours to finish the demo) and all the funny party discussions. Hope to see you here again or to meet you at any other party in the future. Great thanks to Sushi Boyz for all your support all the time, it helped to make it happen.
As for the demo name - I know the local history very well, I live in Gdansk more than half of my life, my family lost few members during WWII and I don't have any issue with the demo title. In fact, I find it cool as an artistic way to emphasize Polish-German friendly cooperation and support the party by giving demo a name related to it. So please, let's cool down and enjoy the scene prod - the scene way.
Peace to all Scene Bros!
As for the demo name - I know the local history very well, I live in Gdansk more than half of my life, my family lost few members during WWII and I don't have any issue with the demo title. In fact, I find it cool as an artistic way to emphasize Polish-German friendly cooperation and support the party by giving demo a name related to it. So please, let's cool down and enjoy the scene prod - the scene way.
Peace to all Scene Bros!
quite short and not that full with content and a continuation on the steam punk theme that i don't really fancy, but the limited stuff is high quality.
Just wish it was longer, loved this!
great demo, just way too short! more please!
Ace stuff as usual, guys.
On the one hand I kind of agree with gasman, but on both hands I put the thumbs up :)
I totally wish this was longer... and Hellfire!
Sweet but short ride!
Finally someone did a really good looking demo on 060 Amigas. \o/
cool
respect
Stunning show. Corial showed it to me on Sunday morning at TRSAC on his Ami... err Smartphone, so I wanted to watch it first on the real thing before doing the obvious :)
I'm a "trainophile" sucker for huge steel thingies on tracks, so totally digging it.
And blown away to see ye olde warhorses stepping back into the ring after 5 years and team up with the polish Steampunk Varieté.
If only the thing would've had 2 more scenes. It's over the moment you're becoming aware that your on some hell of a ride.
...dude, the correct title is - barring unintentional typos - whatever the creators of the production decide to name it ! Is that understood ?!
I'm a "trainophile" sucker for huge steel thingies on tracks, so totally digging it.
And blown away to see ye olde warhorses stepping back into the ring after 5 years and team up with the polish Steampunk Varieté.
If only the thing would've had 2 more scenes. It's over the moment you're becoming aware that your on some hell of a ride.
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The only correct forms are:
...dude, the correct title is - barring unintentional typos - whatever the creators of the production decide to name it ! Is that understood ?!
d0DgE, did I offend you any way that you are using condescending tone? I hope you understand that as much as creators have right to decide on the title, people have right to comment and express their feelings on whatever topic they wish. Still, as I already admitted, I should be more subtle next time. Peace!
Next demo name we can discuss: Vaginal Massacre.
I gotta agree with gasman on this one. Looks and feel brilliant (as always), but it really is hollow.
StingRay, arguably it was more to the "point" ;) For me this one here is ok, it's not offending or anything, just rather misleading, that's all. Besides the fact it is the mix of two languages, "last" could also refer to many things, like the last train to catch this day or the last one before the city name has changed ;)? Or the last one to catch to be on time at the party. Apparently there are also couple of movies and TV series with a similar title, like a post-apocalyptic drama "The Last Train". There is even a song name: "Last Train to Clarksville", which funnily enough brought some controversy, because Clarksville is next to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, yet authors have a stance that the song has nothing to do with it or Vietnam war.
All of this made me wonder as usual things have meanings and IMHO artist are in fact responsible to at least make some prior-studies to find out what will be the potential message and if this message is on par with their intent. But apparently, there was little to no thought behind this title, other than hinting at Polish/German cooperation and (presumably) Steampunk theme. And no, I really don't mind this title, but I was simply curious. To be honest, I still don't understand what is the point of mixing languages in credits, but nevermind. Maybe it's about consistency between the title and the credits, or maybe, just maybe, the authors were not aware what is a proper English name that people use in mainstream sources today. But since, of course, I was immediately recognized as an enemy or some kind of extremist, we will never know ;)
All of this made me wonder as usual things have meanings and IMHO artist are in fact responsible to at least make some prior-studies to find out what will be the potential message and if this message is on par with their intent. But apparently, there was little to no thought behind this title, other than hinting at Polish/German cooperation and (presumably) Steampunk theme. And no, I really don't mind this title, but I was simply curious. To be honest, I still don't understand what is the point of mixing languages in credits, but nevermind. Maybe it's about consistency between the title and the credits, or maybe, just maybe, the authors were not aware what is a proper English name that people use in mainstream sources today. But since, of course, I was immediately recognized as an enemy or some kind of extremist, we will never know ;)
Too short, but still thumb-worthy.
Sure it was only credits, but the credits were also the effects, and they were good effects.
Sure it was only credits, but the credits were also the effects, and they were good effects.
Great 3D, nice effects and graphics, but feels like it's just about to start when it ends.
I agree with Gasman, this demo is less than a sum of its parts somehow, even though the code is obviously excellent, the art is stunning and the soundtrack is perfectly fitting. However, there is one truly redeeming "demo" moment here from my point of view - the moment when the title screen kick in, with the train passing in the background, when the beat turns out to be the train's wheel noise, - this is true cinematography. Fantastic stuff.
This is just awesome. Music, art, direction, I just love everything about this. My only wish is it were longer.
Not my favorite from Ghostown but still awesome. Sharp visuals and design! Climatic soundtrack too! For me the best 060 demo in this year. Great respect for you and I'm waiting for more ... especially on the Atari ST ... joke, I mean A500
Great demo & massive sound, all nicely tuned. And yeah, trains... there can't be anything wrong... :)
Great stuff!
Great!
small a bit but great!
too short but very well, this rocks!
Short but very cool. Doesn't really need to be longer.
awesome stuff!
The 2D art is great. The music is OK. Some of the effects look like stored video (the rotating wheels), and some of them like stored 3D animations (the shatter effect), so it leaves me a bit empty. (I'd love to be proven wrong.)
Thumb up for the mix of languages in the title ;-)
Thumb up for the mix of languages in the title ;-)
Jazzcat: I´ve spotted "Shades" in the intro. After listening the 3rd time. Well done ;)
a nice compact package that's well thought out and very entertaining.
Unfortunatly way to short. More plz
One ticket for this train, please!
hfr: You're right, I looked at the video again and the wheels seem to be realtime. My bad.
very good but very short :)
credits part rocks
credits part rocks
Great atmosphere! :D
Needs more Cougar though!
Needs more Cougar though!
It's good to see the Haujobb guys back and the demo looks stunning, but it's so short it feels like it ends just after the introduction.
Awesome! Finally some fresh stuff. You guys rock!
rock ? the gods returned! they are living legends :)
ja, magic, wir wissen, dass du eine kleine fanboynutte bist
Qualität aus Ostwestfalen!
great
:)
superb graphics and music..
It was decent. :)
i was ready to thumb this up, and seems quite solid, but where is the rest of the demo? i mean it is just the intro followed by the outro, there should be at least more content in the middle.
This gave me big expectations but then just ended. I'd love to see some content before the endscroller. Anyhow, I like what I saw, and looking forward to seeing more from you!
woah, great stuff!
Seen on the bigscreen and liked it :)
Unfortunately, it reboots my amiga (060, clean boot, setpatch 43.6) the moment it starts. So I'm waiting for final version that will work :)
Unfortunately, it reboots my amiga (060, clean boot, setpatch 43.6) the moment it starts. So I'm waiting for final version that will work :)
comes out fighting, good stuff.
short but sweet, everything there very well done
Short but sweet, nice one.
Really liked the exploding blocks part, but yeah. I would have liked 1/20 block count and real explosions more :)
I would like to say though that I agree with criticisms, obviously made for quick pace. But it works, I would say! And a demo is where gfx compo graphics should be! Especially Slayer's excellent winner pic :) Glitch effects seem to cry out for sounds to go with them :) but overall this is good-looking and runs without problems (and quicker than in the Youtube... so real Amiga is recommended).
Demos have always been about promoting yourself and your group :) So I don't mind "just consists of credits", please add spinning scanned heads of everyone involved! Hehe. But when it's design-driven and short like this, you're not allowed to "get into" the demo I think.
I would like to say though that I agree with criticisms, obviously made for quick pace. But it works, I would say! And a demo is where gfx compo graphics should be! Especially Slayer's excellent winner pic :) Glitch effects seem to cry out for sounds to go with them :) but overall this is good-looking and runs without problems (and quicker than in the Youtube... so real Amiga is recommended).
Demos have always been about promoting yourself and your group :) So I don't mind "just consists of credits", please add spinning scanned heads of everyone involved! Hehe. But when it's design-driven and short like this, you're not allowed to "get into" the demo I think.
Good, yet a bit on the short side.
fuckin awesome
great stuff!
very nice!
Quite nice, but has just terrible size-to-length ratio! :- ) (size in bytes, length in seconds). Quits at random times on the endscroller, so no way to read it (winuae).
Wheels scenes are definitely not anim, but are nonsense from the mechanical point of view :)
Wheels scenes are definitely not anim, but are nonsense from the mechanical point of view :)
Well done indeed!
nice art, but too short
short but nice
cool
Looks fine, but a bit short
Quite not what I had expected. Nice. Interesting to look at the .tga's.
jawdropping pic at the end with epic music, but whole demo is way too short
Great production! Like a little movie. The atmosphere reminds me of the American NBC-series 'Dracula'.
Maybe a little bit too short but the high quality compensates it all :-)
Keep on your good work guys.
Maybe a little bit too short but the high quality compensates it all :-)
Keep on your good work guys.
Good stuff but I want more. It looks like an introduction to something bigger. There are credits but where is the rest? Give us something guys.
A bit short indeed, but that doesn't stop it from being awesome! :-)
Awesome!
OSSOM! ...
i think im gonna join haujobb!
i think im gonna join haujobb!
i like trains.
fantastic piece of shit.
Although it feels a little like i am watching the intro part of a demo with the credits knit together with the end part and no demo inbetween, i still really enjoy what i am watching! Great code and gfx!!!
what gasman said.
That's a great prod nevertheless.
That's a great prod nevertheless.
Very awesome and well done, just... too short. :(
I skip all that drama from the beginning. An unnecessary incident, imo.
For the demo.
A Good one! Thanks for keeping the promises dudes!
What can I say more? Perhaps that's too short.
For the demo.
A Good one! Thanks for keeping the promises dudes!
What can I say more? Perhaps that's too short.
what charlie said!
Fun!
At last !
Nice prod !
Nice prod !
Loved it.
It has a real wow factor. Congratulations.
really coherent and full of soul
Holy sh**! Kicks ass!
That's awesome!
Nice Prod !
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Some of the effects look like stored video (the rotating wheels)
(I'd love to be proven wrong.)
Looks to me that only the textures are muddy. :)
Such an awesome atmosphere! A true work of art!
Congrats! That is awesome!
Yeah! Very coherent design, an exasperating, fast ride and quality graphics. Almost over too soon.
Sheet!
Fet men kort!
nice atmosphere and music, good pacing
Enjoyed it a lot!
Amazing :)
Very good.
Just watched this again on youtube and I thought the subtlesmoke effects in the end scroller and intro looked really good. Are they particle based or are they a series of crossfading images?
Looks and sounds amazing.
Sublime pixels by Slayer, great music and awesome credits section.
awesome demo
I love the last picture
I love the last picture
awesome fx, but the soundtrack was a bit meh.
heilige klabusterbeere!
Bitter-sweet feelings: unfortunate title and scary atmosphere but overall a good prod.
Wow.
so much visuals in 2 minutes <3
Awesome visuals and high framerate!
I order to make this run (Apollo 1260@80mhz / 64MB) I have to do the following:
- boot without startup sequence
- run setpatch
- run "stack 10000" before running the demo
I order to make this run (Apollo 1260@80mhz / 64MB) I have to do the following:
- boot without startup sequence
- run setpatch
- run "stack 10000" before running the demo
These exploding logos are excellent!
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