Demoscene on big machines
category: general [glöplog]
I'm just wondering, is there any recent demoscene activity on big machines from 70ies, like pdp-11, ibm-360/370 etc.?
Of course there is some hackers' legacy like this, and many tricks from there could be clearly treated as demoscene-related in nowadays comprehension, but what I am asking about is recent activity, say last 10 or 20 years.
Anyone?
Of course there is some hackers' legacy like this, and many tricks from there could be clearly treated as demoscene-related in nowadays comprehension, but what I am asking about is recent activity, say last 10 or 20 years.
Anyone?
since demos sprung from the home computing era im not so sure if theres any (active) with access and/or interest in such hardware
would make an impressive wild release, tho =)
would make an impressive wild release, tho =)
I'm still waiting for demos on the sharp x68000! I nearly bought one!
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yeah those things are sexy afI'm still waiting for demos on the sharp x68000! I nearly bought one!
I love the 1972 memo with PDP bytebeat snippets, lvd, thanks
seconding djhoffman here. those would needed to be tapped.
or more FM-Towns demos :)
@wysiwtf, isn't demoscene also about exploring some older stuff and trying to implement smthing on it? :)
Regarding x68000, wikipedia says it is kind a devsystem for CPS console, so might be a nice demoplatform :)
cmucc has an x68000, unless I'm misremembering
i hope that wikipedia wasn't written by alone :) X68000 is really nice computer(i have couple units in my storage) with arcade-like graphics and OPM sound(midi interface included). Some SDK avaliable, but AFAIK all software in japanese, so...
The x68000 surely is a nice machine but far from the mainframe category the OP mentioned. Also consider that the x68k is more or less designed for arcade machines and as thus has way nicer gfx and sound capabilities than those old big workhorses, no matter the raw cpu power. I guess you could do some terminal-ascii-hackery with beeper-sound or something, but oh well.
Also they are very rare these days, very hard to move and very expensive...
Dont get me wrong, I dont mind prods on exotic hardware at all, but I fear the hurdles are too high for this particular device category to ever go beyond a proof-of-concept, if even.
Also they are very rare these days, very hard to move and very expensive...
Dont get me wrong, I dont mind prods on exotic hardware at all, but I fear the hurdles are too high for this particular device category to ever go beyond a proof-of-concept, if even.
ATM shouldn't count - most of them are just industrial PC with specific interface.
X68000 is definitely on my sights as well.
Not quite a recent development, but gives an idea of what is possible:
http://www.masswerk.at/minskytron/
(no one added this to Pouet yet?)
http://www.masswerk.at/minskytron/
(no one added this to Pouet yet?)
I'd love to do *any* programming for 1970s big iron hardware (: a demo would be a plus, of course.
CUBES (1979) 3D demo for PDP-11.
^^ Wow ... would NOT have thought a PDP could do that!
Wonder if the demo was originally intended to go with that tune, or if it was just arbitrarily chosen? Syncs up pretty well if so!
Wonder if the demo was originally intended to go with that tune, or if it was just arbitrarily chosen? Syncs up pretty well if so!
Well, is there anything except for utube? Which hardware it was running at (specific pdp model, display type)? Is there executable or (dreamingly :) even sources? Quick googling gives only that video, nothing more...
@jmph, pdp-11 was actually quite capable and very much like high-end home computers of 80ies, regarding its cpu architecture and speed. So no wonder it could do that simple 3d in realtime :)
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quite capable and very much like high-end home computers of 80ies
In fact, weren't there some russian PDP-11 based home computers?
Yes, here is it: http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platform[]=BK-0010%2F11M
But personally I don't count it as "big iron" computers. Yes the cpu architecture there replicates pdp-11, but nothing more. Otherwise it is a typical 80ish home computer.
But personally I don't count it as "big iron" computers. Yes the cpu architecture there replicates pdp-11, but nothing more. Otherwise it is a typical 80ish home computer.
BK-001x is modified industrial controller. Some duscussion(in russian) you can find at zx-pk.ru
There is two more - DVK, UKNC and Nemiga PK588(Немига ПК 588). Unfortunately no english page for the last "big box"
There is two more - DVK, UKNC and Nemiga PK588(Немига ПК 588). Unfortunately no english page for the last "big box"