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• 2013-09-23
• 12:35 never makes demos. wants high quality 3D and music. complains about filesize.
• 12:37 but demosceners are supposed to be fucking crazy magical super coders who implement commercial quality audio generation in 4 kilobytes or less and while drunk...
• 12:38 Anything less = SHIT. No wonder the scene is dying :)
• 12:45 write code, add content, [DEADLINE], size optimise.
• 12:47 "so we should use the codec efficiency as a metric for downloadability?" that's what happened in the music scene when the xm/it files grew larger than a 128kbps mp3
• 12:52 write code, add content, [DEADLINE], start working on the next production instead of wasting time on useless crap
• 12:54 hehe, mine is more like: write code, add con[DEADLINE], start work on final, fuck it, start something new.
• 12:56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mld8vlsg8 listen to this and do the demo
• 12:57 gloom: the "bar" for a good demo appears to be "the sum of everything else that was ever good, scaled up to 2013 projected levels, and in 64k or less".. achieveable huh? :)
• 12:59 i reckon "the bar" is merely what you planned to do when you started the project. The end result almost never matches the plan :)
• 13:03 absence: I wouldn't say that's the same thing, seeing as the main point of an XM wasn't that it was real-time calculated, which is the point with demos.
• 13:09 so mp3 is ok for the audio. Mp4 for the video part can't be a problem. But the replayer must be realtime.
• 13:13 psonice: I see you've distilled the essence of the "problem" and the insane logical fallacy behind size-complaining.
• 13:27 sooooo many text ... go make a thread about it :|
• 13:29 Audio in demo demoscene and game industry is "don't bother me, just make it work" for 9% of people anyway so it doesn't really count.
• 13:30 Multiline overflow is not supported on the oneliner.
• 13:33 Audio for browser demos is using ogg for everthing, mp3 for walled garden products.
• 13:36 Some browser demos precalc their tunes.
• 13:40 you should precalc your demo tune
• 13:42 ### man with sphere as head. disco music. glow. billie jean scene without michael jackson. ###
• 13:44 http://vimeo.com/75099805 aaaa miii ggg.. aaa
• 13:45 Thou shalt precalc all data!
• 13:52 But don't store the pre-calced data! We want longer loading bars, not longer download times!
• 13:56 leGend: Nice. You can see (at 1:44) an effect from a masterpiece called Pulse.
• 14:47 gloom: yes i know how it works (what kb said, etc), i just don't like that audio has different rules than graphics