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Neuron Activated by DMA [web]
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screenshot added by KK on 2014-09-22 19:32:18
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release date : september 2014
release party : Riverwash 2014
compo : combined intro
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 39
  • is ok 10
  • sucks 2
popularity : 0%
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  • rulez 0.73
alltime top: #3136
  • KK KK [Code, Design, Music]
added on the 2014-09-22 19:29:39 by wysiwtf wysiwtf

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A bit rushed prod, mostly done at the party place.
Exe is 5k.
Have fun!


YouTube link: http://youtu.be/nMexq1pTkoE
Video (720p, 60FPS, ~183MB): https://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fparties%2F2014%2Friverwash14%2Fintro%2F5k _kk_dma_neuron_activated.avi&fileinfo
added on the 2014-09-22 19:32:37 by KK KK
lovely stuff man :D
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 19:33:47 by ferris ferris
thunderforce IV called. it wants this tune as boss music!

very nice one man show! :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 19:40:29 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Immediately crashes on Win7 64bit, Nvidia 340.65.
Some dx 11.2 features from Win8.1 needed maybe?
added on the 2014-09-22 20:02:37 by cupe cupe
Very nice visuals, KK! I enjoyed the scenes a lot (and the direction), and I think some stuff could have been shown a bit longer without becoming boring yet. The color sceme is somewhat obvious/canonical, but looks still very nice though.

The music... well, it's "interestingly" different from the usual 4k stuff, but sadly disconnected from the visuals IMHO. It's like watching a muted video while hearing an unrelated song. It's synced, yes, but the tune doesn't really fit the visuals.

Still, overall solid thumb up!
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 20:05:13 by Kylearan Kylearan
really great, and taking into account 5k: just wow!
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 20:33:25 by whizart whizart
crazy for 5k, especially the tune
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 20:57:12 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Crinkler 1.3 was used to compress this prod = instant crash on Nvidia... Re-compressed with 1.4, no problem.

Average song and on the short side. Very good for a 1 man prod done at the last minute. +1 for multiple resolutions included. Piggy overall.
added on the 2014-09-22 21:01:42 by ramon ramon
Awesome "one guy at party" prod.
I second Kylearan about the music.
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 21:09:07 by BackSpace BackSpace
@ramon: Sh*t - I copied the 1.4 "crinkler.exe", but totally forgot to rename it to "link.exe" which is the actual linker used for compression.

@cupe: It's pure DX9.
added on the 2014-09-22 21:11:52 by KK KK
crap tune, but thumb up for attempting to guitar-sound
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 21:20:48 by BiTL BiTL
Seconding Kylearan here. The music is certainly not your typical size-coded soundtrack, but it seems quite out of place. It's synched, sure, but not my up of tea.

The rest of it (the visuals) are very nice indeed, so there's the thumb. :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 21:24:23 by Starchaser Starchaser
I guess since I waited so long to post I'd be "thirding" now. :P
Pretty good!
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 22:21:10 by p01 p01
Should have used another 3kb for the music :)
Nice colors!! Keep it up KK
Buzka ;)
rulez added on the 2014-09-22 23:32:52 by magic magic
Cool intro
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 01:15:35 by jack-3d jack-3d
Awesome hypnoglow, but the music keeps me from rulezin' it.
added on the 2014-09-23 08:40:32 by leGend leGend
@Kylearan, BackSpace, BiTL, Starchaser, magic, leGend, anyone:

Any constructive hints about the music? What hurts most, how can it be improved, fixed, or anything? Because I'm certainly missing something obvious here. Some day I'd really like to do a proper guitar tune even if it would take 5 out of 8k, so any feedback beyond "it sucks" could definitely help there.
added on the 2014-09-23 09:35:56 by KK KK
I love the spiky-looking black things against the background, but somehow the other effects took away from that impression. The tunnel-part looked nice as well, but at that point the magic was already gone for me.
added on the 2014-09-23 09:53:52 by Preacher Preacher
KK: maybe inspire the sound from some top guitar players, I like this one http://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 10:04:55 by maq maq
I've uploaded a version recompressed with Crinkler 1.4. This should work almost everywhere now:
http://devkk.net/files/5k_kk_dma_neuron_activated.zip
added on the 2014-09-23 11:30:13 by KK KK
Like it, but the music really sucks (sounds like a amiga racing game) (!).
added on the 2014-09-23 16:57:48 by Gadler Gadler
The effects are okay but i really can't stand the music.
sucks added on the 2014-09-23 17:21:19 by The_Grandmother The_Grandmother
jesus, that music really sucks hard
sucks added on the 2014-09-23 18:45:18 by Sir Sir
Looks good, sounds bad (even considered the size). Piggie. :)
added on the 2014-09-23 18:53:41 by StingRay StingRay
uh, I forgot about the crinkler thing. Thanks, it runs now. Visuals are good, especially in the very beginning. Music sounds a bit rough.
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 19:41:51 by cupe cupe
nice visuals, looks great, the music is ok, it very much reminds me of some guitar based mods on amiga (from Hard Drivin' for example), so i didnt mind it too much, nice work anyway :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 19:58:58 by keito keito
I don't even think it sounds that bad, the guitar sound is good enough for this size, but if there's something that ruins the fun it's the drums. Not really anything special, but I'm not bored to death by the visuals, so a thumb towards the desired direction will be my vote.
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 20:03:03 by noby noby
@anybody posting the music just sucks: Please be more specific. This way I'd be able to improve, or drop the guitar idea altogether. Or is it the composition that sucks more than the instrument?
added on the 2014-09-23 22:00:05 by KK KK
Good stuff... as always.
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 22:03:34 by dakota dakota
I agree that the music feels disconnected from the visuals. And I think people are much more sensitive to real instruments sounding fake and be annoyed by it if it's not real, unlike random synth sounds. I guess there is an uncanny valley for musical instruments too.

The visuals are great though :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-23 22:46:03 by zoom zoom
@KK : Strangely the music sounds like some car game tunes on Amiga (mainly at sphere part).
To me guitar volume is a bit high and sounds too "raw/rough" (see no offense).

Maybe it's just a question of "feeling" between visuals and tune, it's like there's no "connection".
It's a bit hard to explain, for this prod a more soft guitar sound or a chiptune ;-) would have been better imho.
added on the 2014-09-23 22:52:00 by BackSpace BackSpace
@BackSpace: I see no offense in any comments, especially if they give me some constructive criticism on what to improve. Thanks!
added on the 2014-09-23 23:20:16 by KK KK
gratz man. Good job, especially, it was finished at the Party
rulez added on the 2014-09-24 00:06:17 by Majak Majak
KK: Music composition is good. Simple but effective. Could use a few more instruments for variation and buildup though. The sound itself sounds a bit glitchy, but not in a "i wanted it to be glitchy on purpose" way.
added on the 2014-09-24 00:54:02 by cupe cupe
Music is qute dummy.
Visuals are cool. I like colors and glow.
rulez added on the 2014-09-24 08:23:50 by Manwe Manwe
I really liked the music :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-24 16:21:48 by las las
KK: well it just didnt work for me, maybe it was the whole thing. I'm sensitive like that. Maybe a better chord pattern? A disconnection was made with music&visuals
added on the 2014-09-24 16:33:54 by leGend leGend
has some framedrops @1080 on i7/titan. nevertheless very nice prod!
rulez added on the 2014-09-24 17:57:34 by comankh comankh
The visual style is nice, though the contents feel quite random. Music is not particularly pleasant...
added on the 2014-09-24 18:09:57 by Blueberry Blueberry
I've listen to the demo again to better analyze the music since you asked for more details. I'm no music expert, but this is my personal opinion:

1- The guitars sound "cheap". Like old modules from 1989.

2- Guitar track in a module is very hard to do. After all those years, I think I was possessively impressed only once by a 4 track rock module with guitars.

3- My guess is you would need a LOT more guitar sample to cover all the spectrum more smoothly. Like 1 sound per note for each octave. That's a lot. Like the song "don't tell me" from Madonna where all the guitar are obviously sampled. Having 1 guitar sound and stretching it all over the keyboard over 2-3 octaves might not produce the greatest result.

4-If you would replace those guitars by some TB-303 baseline synth with at least some sustain and/or flange, you would immediately hear the improvement. At least you could test if the song composition/construction itself is at fault or if it's just about bad sounding instruments.

My 2 cents
added on the 2014-09-24 23:48:48 by ramon ramon
High distortion guitar is the hardest to replicate but listen to this module with guitar with outstanding integration as an example:

http://lite.modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=104598
added on the 2014-09-25 00:07:22 by ramon ramon
a quick win for the rhythm guitar part would be to synthesize another sample for the palm muted hits... it's more of a difference than just a shorter adsr envelope. i'd play around with some lowpass filtering.

you could also try synthesizing a "pluck" sound of the plectrum striking the strings and layer that over the main string tone. also note that a real guitarists will never strike all the strings at quite the same time, try to introduce a slight delay for the higher strings.
added on the 2014-09-25 15:26:54 by juice juice
Good job KK!
rulez added on the 2014-09-25 16:30:44 by argasek argasek
A nice little intro! Good stuff!
rulez added on the 2014-09-26 09:11:14 by Soya Soya
Krzysiek, great stuff, especially the guitar synth, first time I hear such guitar in 4k (you coded it by yourself, no sample hacks I assume?). Going to Berlin in a week or what? ; P
rulez added on the 2014-09-26 16:21:29 by tomkh tomkh
really nice "one man" intro!

music is a bit "meh" but the guitar sound is nice :)
rulez added on the 2014-09-26 19:15:43 by rez rez
Hardtro
rulez added on the 2014-09-27 13:29:29 by Deus Deus
Love the music, unfortunately I think, that the visuals are worse than your previous productions, some parts are way too dark without any lighting...
rulez added on the 2014-09-27 13:37:24 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Really nice one man show. Visuals and effects are great. Music sounds over saturated. Nice to make something a bit different but way too loud and composition is average (too simple). I know it's hard to manage everything so I will thumb it up for sure.
rulez added on the 2014-09-28 14:02:15 by Ok3anos Ok3anos
not my kind of music! still rulez ;)
rulez added on the 2014-10-03 17:48:15 by HellMood HellMood
Wow, it actually run on my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine with its ATI Radeon 4870 video card (512 MB of VRAM). I thought it crashed during the black screen, but it was just slow to start.
added on the 2014-10-04 18:25:35 by AntDude AntDude
Music rules. Visuals too.
rulez added on the 2014-10-06 12:56:28 by Emod Emod
this one was pretty good. but how the hell did you get guitars in 5k?
rulez added on the 2014-10-06 13:10:03 by psenough psenough
regarding other folks comments about the music: i'm usually quite picky with music and how it fits the visuals and in this case it seemed to sound pretty decent and fitting to me, so i really don't see what all the fuss is about. that being said i was a bit tipsy when i first saw this, maybe it's worse when sober :) will have to watch it again sometime in the near future :)
added on the 2014-10-06 13:15:21 by psenough psenough
visuals are quite nice but didnt really like the music.
added on the 2014-10-10 17:13:06 by gopher gopher
I don't like the tune, but that may be a matter of taste. Thie visuals are great :)
rulez added on the 2014-10-11 12:05:36 by Triace Triace
nice effects.
rulez added on the 2014-10-26 17:12:10 by iks iks
Great graphics in this one.
rulez added on the 2015-01-06 11:26:44 by friol friol
Работает AMD R9 270x ( 13.12 ) :)
rulez added on the 2015-03-05 10:16:46 by DIMABOOZ DIMABOOZ
Regarding the guitar synth questions: it's custom modular synth. The guitar starts with a power chord played with gm.dls violin (raw sample with loop) + down sweeping lowpass filter (fast decay for muted sound, long for normal), then a lot of very simple overdrive and gain modules, with very short delay fx thrown in the middle for poor man's "string simulation". Finished with a norma delay, or two.

If anyone would like to try this synth, simply drop me a mail (contact info is on devkk.net), and maybe you'll have more luck than me in the guitar matter. :)
added on the 2015-06-14 16:11:27 by KK KK
Ambitious music and actually pretty nice graphics.
rulez added on the 2015-08-16 21:50:31 by cce cce
decent one
rulez added on the 2015-10-10 19:23:24 by T$ T$
Great one man prod, that's a pity it's an unfinished 4K.
rulez added on the 2016-01-27 23:03:33 by Pirx Pirx
Nice
rulez added on the 2016-09-09 09:46:21 by Omid Omid

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