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Fanatic2k Retro Music by Fanatic2k
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release date : december 2020
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added on the 2020-12-18 22:14:41 by Nlk Nlk

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Looks really nice but the code (at least the file loader) doesn't appear to be reliable, on my 1.3 A500 (512k/512k) it simply freezes when trying to load a new tune, on my 060 A4000 is loads something but doesn't replay anything. Too busy right now to dig deeper.
added on the 2020-12-18 22:23:23 by StingRay StingRay
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Looks really nice but the code (at least the file loader) doesn't appear to be reliable, on my 1.3 A500 (512k/512k) it simply freezes when trying to load a new tune, on my 060 A4000 is loads something but doesn't replay anything. Too busy right now to dig deeper.


Thank for the feedback
added on the 2020-12-18 22:37:20 by Nlk Nlk
Quick look at the code revealed that you are loading the tunes to $50000 which may one reason for causing the problems as the excutable could be loaded anywhere in chip memory. Please fix the code to either properly allocate memory for the tunes or simply use a large BSS buffer. But refrain from using absolute addresses when the executable is a standard Amiga DOS executable which can be loaded and relocated anywhere in memory.
added on the 2020-12-18 22:37:29 by StingRay StingRay
Thx StingRay..
added on the 2020-12-18 22:41:59 by Nlk Nlk
You're welcome. :) I may code a little patch which fixes the problems, no promise though. Should I do it, I'll make the source available so you can have a look what I did.
added on the 2020-12-18 22:48:16 by StingRay StingRay
I saw the problem, I will fix it, I have asked the admin to remove this prod for the moment. Thanks again StingRay
added on the 2020-12-18 23:25:43 by Nlk Nlk
Deleting/removing the music disk is not necessary IMHO. Anyway, I couldn't help it and started the patch code. :)


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added on the 2020-12-18 23:56:20 by StingRay StingRay
I'll allocate memory properly and review the code. I am on Winuae, not always easy to see the problems with an emulator.
I'll repost when it's ok.
Many thx StingRay.
added on the 2020-12-19 00:39:33 by Nlk Nlk
I have finishe the patch, the tunes are now replayer properly on my 68060 A4000. For this I had to recode the CIA interrupt handling. I also fixed the CPU dependent DMA waits in the replayer and fixed the absolute address problems (memory for the tunes is now allocated properly). I didn't fix the loading problem on 1.3 machines, too tired now. Will do that probably tomorrow. Source for the patch can be found on my Github: RetroCity_Patch.s.

Fixed music disk can be found on my FTP: RetroCity2020_Fixed.adf.
added on the 2020-12-19 02:15:58 by StingRay StingRay
It's great stingstay, you have to credit yourself with in the startup-sequence. I will look at the loading problem too.
added on the 2020-12-19 12:10:43 by Nlk Nlk
I tried the version updated by StingRay (thks) on an A500 3.1

I like a lot the parallax scrolls with the "rainbow". Very OCS.
The musics are not chip musics (a bit change compared to the main recent prods).
Nice !
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 12:17:14 by Aghnar Aghnar
Thx Aghnar ! Yes yes, big thx to Stingwait.
added on the 2020-12-19 12:25:12 by Nlk Nlk
Nice production, very great musics, i like the graphics and parallax scrollers. No problem on my A1200, winuae it also works. Good job
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 12:35:27 by Davebaud Davebaud
Nice prod, with enjoyable colorscheme
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 12:48:38 by ok3anos ok3anos
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Thx Aghnar ! Yes yes, big thx to StingRay.


"StingRay" not Stingwait sorry, tired :(
added on the 2020-12-19 12:58:26 by Nlk Nlk
Thx Ok3ano and DaveBaud for your feedback :)
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 13:17:13 by Nlk Nlk
I have improved the patch, the file loading now works on 1.3 machines. I have also added quite a few blitter waits. Source and disk image can be downloaded from the same location I mentioned in my comment above.
added on the 2020-12-19 15:12:42 by StingRay StingRay
Many thanks to StingRay, thanks for spending a lot of time on this prod.
I think one of the problems is caused by my music. NLK had to find some tips to make the music play at the right speed.
Indeed I use specific tempos which work in CIA mode and not in VBLANK mode. Because in VLBANK the music was either accelerated or slowed down.
For example, with the fix there is music N ° 2 which is played faster.
Thanks to everyone who liked this production despite the display and loading issues. The next we will only use real hardware to be sure everything will be correct :)
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 15:47:00 by Alex Menchi Alex Menchi
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For example, with the fix there is music N ° 2 which is played faster.


Can you give me the name of a tune which is played too fast, please? Or are all replayed too fast?
added on the 2020-12-19 16:55:03 by StingRay StingRay
Sure : Between Us, Sidewalk Mouth, Mystery Box are so fast.
Metamorphose is slightly faster but I like it
And Savage Cat is too slow
Night Of The Hunter slightly slower: the drum sample ends before the next one
Weird is perfect (no Fxx function in my pattern)
thank you StingRay for your help, i know you worked a lot on other fixes: I saw your profile on http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/
love them tunes...
rulez added on the 2020-12-19 23:38:30 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
nice scrolling & colors
not fond of the Chaos Engine's font rip, but, hey, OK...
La Nuit du Chasseur by Alex, woah, this one could have ended up in a classic Amiga OCS demo :)
rulez added on the 2020-12-20 10:38:20 by fra fra
Cool tracks, nice compos in varied styles using many classic samples.
rulez added on the 2020-12-20 11:24:38 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Thx to StingRay for the patch, I will correct in my code.
added on the 2020-12-20 13:07:30 by Nlk Nlk
Fine looks with interesting tunes.
rulez added on the 2020-12-20 13:14:21 by Serpent Serpent
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Sure : Between Us, Sidewalk Mouth, Mystery Box are so fast.


Confirmed. I'll fix that.

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thank you StingRay for your help, i know you worked a lot on other fixes: I saw your profile on http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/


My pleasure. :) This musc disk is really nice (looks and sounds great) so it is fun trying to make it work properly. :)
added on the 2020-12-20 13:48:52 by StingRay StingRay
I have fixed the tempo problems, the tunes should now hopefully be replayed with correct speed. Source and disk image links updated accordingly.
added on the 2020-12-20 14:00:58 by StingRay StingRay
that's great StayRay, do you have an email where i can reach you ?
added on the 2020-12-20 16:19:49 by Nlk Nlk
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that's great StayRay, do you have an email where i can reach you ?


You can send a mail to the following address: stingray_dsd(well_known_at_sign_here)gmx.de
added on the 2020-12-20 16:55:03 by StingRay StingRay
Thx :)
added on the 2020-12-20 17:12:03 by Nlk Nlk
Piggy because of StinkRay support. Show something more ambitious Stinky. More ambitious than support to music disk (added as your own prod).
added on the 2020-12-21 20:20:52 by Enter Enter
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Piggy because of StinkRay support. Show something more ambitious Stinky. More ambitious than support to music disk (added as your own prod).


Hello Enter, nice to see you agaim. I have not added this prod as my own. Have a good day!
added on the 2020-12-21 21:02:31 by StingRay StingRay
du bon son, du bon design !
rulez added on the 2020-12-22 17:48:27 by TawnY TawnY
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Piggy because of StinkRay support. Show something more ambitious Stinky. More ambitious than support to music disk (added as your own prod).


Do i get it correctly if i assume you gave it worse rating because Sting made it work? One of the most retarded things i have seen if that's so. Also i don't know who added Sting credits but it could have been anyone.
added on the 2020-12-22 19:26:43 by Serpent Serpent
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Hello Enter, nice to see you agaim. I have not added this prod as my own. Have a good day!


Yes you did :-) After my comment you have removed it from list of your prods :-) Have a good day!
sucks added on the 2020-12-23 12:39:25 by Enter Enter
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Yes you did :-) After my comment you have removed it from list of your prods :-) Have a good day!


This was never added as any of my prods. It has been added by the Fanatic2k members who created it. The credits (which I now have indeed removed) said that additional code for 1.x and 680x0 compatibility was done by me. And this was neither wrong nor claiming that I had made the music disk!
added on the 2020-12-23 18:42:15 by StingRay StingRay
@Nlk
@Alex Menchi

I like it.
A recommendation: a production must be always tested on real Amiga before release, at least the system that is your target.
Only relying on a software emulator is not good enough.
added on the 2020-12-24 07:58:50 by AlienTech AlienTech
@AlienTech

thank you :) We were too optimistic and we learned that the emulation was not perfect. the next production will be tested correctly
Good(!) job Fanatic2k.
Even if some gfx (blue charset for ex) is not too coherent, I like your prod.
Keep them coming in 2021.

Sidenote.
Amazing how SR helped the dudes to make it work better.
Amazing how Enter bashes a helpful hand, with no reason.

Life still amazes me... ;)
rulez added on the 2021-01-04 17:00:49 by sim sim
Very nice looking and sounding disk. Good work by all.
rulez added on the 2021-01-08 00:52:23 by motion motion
Love the city background and pretty cool tunes to. Nice vibe overall.
added on the 2021-01-23 06:04:59 by Wavemaker Wavemaker

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