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release date : august 2023
release party : Xenium 2023
compo : oldskool demo
ranked : 2nd
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added on the 2023-08-27 17:13:40 by domel domel

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very nice demo for being AMOS
rulez added on the 2023-08-27 17:15:38 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Really cool and original style.
rulez added on the 2023-08-27 22:12:23 by Soundy Soundy
Pretty disjointed, a bit out-of-sync and at times buggy, but OK, lots of nice pixeling here (and a little bit of Midjourney).
rulez added on the 2023-08-27 22:50:42 by Sesse Sesse
Really cool demo. Nice idea, gfx, msx. Everything fits nicely. Ok, some bugs, but - who cares. The overall reception is very positive. Keep it going! Great work!
rulez added on the 2023-08-27 23:06:46 by Hominis Hominis
Awesome graphics ruined by overlaying effects.
added on the 2023-08-27 23:21:37 by gaspode gaspode
graphics are cool
rulez added on the 2023-08-27 23:28:48 by Blast! Blast!
Make your dreams possible! This was something else, thanks!
rulez added on the 2023-08-28 12:57:09 by spkr spkr
Very good graphics!
rulez added on the 2023-08-28 13:08:40 by rloaderro rloaderro
Gfx and sfx is superb in this one. Wished some things would run more smooth. But hey, it's Amos 🙂
rulez added on the 2023-08-28 13:27:13 by Virgill Virgill
Tons of pompous gfx and music, effect-wise a stutterfest despite 68060. I see the work put into this, but altogether too kitschy for my taste.
added on the 2023-08-28 16:08:24 by bifat bifat
Seems disconnected; a slideshow of effects and not synched to the music (as I see it). I'm sorry, this is not for me.
added on the 2023-08-28 22:17:42 by PRiDE PRiDE
Nothing to do with Kosher, YOU abandoned Amiga and played around in BASIC. Hope you had fun, certainly easier than coding a demo!

It abuses the "OCS/ECS" idiocy Pouet still perpetrates which is good, because that exposes that Pouet knows nothing about the Amiga, just like you don't by saying Kosher.

Platform specs are low because the BASIC you use is old and its specs are low.

6m45s precalc time, then PC dither for all graphics, 8FPS Alcatraz bars, 1FPS glitchy low color filled vectors, glitchy updating of 8 raster splits in not full framerate, 3FPS shadebobs, seconds of black screen precalc between scenes, before the globe I lost count of the minutes. Maybe 5? 10?

For these specs, 2MB ECS+8MB FastRam (which requires an Amiga accelerator on A600 and A1200), and equally AGA+060, it is hugely unimpressive, including the PC graphics dithered to oblivion for no reason. :'( Other than to shoehorn into Pouet's OCS/ECS misnomer with emulation, of course.
sucks added on the 2023-08-28 22:25:53 by Photon Photon
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Nothing to do with Kosher, YOU abandoned Amiga and played around in BASIC.

ahh, it was just an inside joke on a situation where someone reviewed my previous demo (Shaggy) as having non-Kosher hardware requirements. I though it's funny, definitely not having anything common with the real meaning of that term. Sorry.
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Hope you had fun, certainly easier than coding a demo!

Well, I did have, although not to a full extent because I was aware it will work way too slow given the simplicity of the effects.
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It abuses the "OCS/ECS" idiocy Pouet still perpetrates which is good, because that exposes that Pouet knows nothing about the Amiga, just like you don't by saying Kosher.

certainly, and I can not choose "AGA" because... it's not AGA. I even tried once but the edit has been rejected.
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Platform specs are low because the BASIC you use is old and its specs are low.
6m45s precalc time, then PC dither for all graphics, 8FPS Alcatraz bars, 1FPS glitchy low color filled vectors, glitchy updating of 8 raster splits in not full framerate, 3FPS shadebobs, seconds of black screen precalc between scenes, before the globe I lost count of the minutes. Maybe 5? 10?

For these specs, 2MB ECS+8MB FastRam (which requires an Amiga accelerator on A600 and A1200), and equally AGA+060, it is hugely unimpressive, including the PC graphics dithered to oblivion for no reason. :'( Other than to shoehorn into Pouet's OCS/ECS misnomer with emulation, of course.

I understand that running this prod on a classical OCS/ECS configuration is pointless, but given the fact there's no config like e.g. Bifat's OCS+ list tries to cover which would include such entries, AND requirements are mentioned in the info file, it is a bit sad to read such detailed reports. This really wasn't meant to stain the OCS/ECS legend, but rather to give a bit of entertainment to party people (total of 3 productions for old platforms, you know) and push me to learn creating better things each time.

Anyway, thanks for your time you sacrificed to check it out, and also huge thank you for your ASM course on YouTube, which I discovered recently and starting to learn something from it...
added on the 2023-08-28 23:11:39 by domel domel
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and push me to learn creating better things each time.


You won't go anywhere near that with AMOS. Using it, especially nowadays, is just fanaticism or pure laziness/lameness.

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then PC dither for all graphics


Gfx (at least Critikill's) aren't automatic PC conversions.
added on the 2023-08-28 23:32:40 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Ignore photon, he's just bitching for the sake of bitching anything that is not meeting his personal expectations, nobody serious cares about. Please mind that this is the guy who bitched EON in pouet comments as well. being negatively commented by the same person who disliked EON is actually putting you in the same league with TBL for a second :)

Of course this is a prod made out of joy and sentiment, not to prove TBL/TEK quality coding skills. I, still, found it amusing that you tried to emulate some of the recent TEK style in AMOS.

Everybody knows that outside drinking at the party and yelling "Amiga" with pride, we don't fucking care seriously about retarded Amiga zealots in Poland anymore. Number of serious prods as a proof point and Winning PC demos made by historic Amigans is another.

So again.. screw complainers' comments and keep the compo far away from empty socket next year, I hope to see more attempts to prove BASIC can do it :)
rulez added on the 2023-08-29 12:38:08 by hollowone hollowone
Amos demoes are always somehow different in style and atmosphere.
Just curious, does the demo run in full overscan ? If it does, I'm dazzled.
rulez added on the 2023-08-29 13:11:22 by Nori Nori
Awesome pixel work but no effects, poor flow and cringe bugs.
added on the 2023-08-29 14:12:53 by hfr hfr
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keep the compo far away from empty socket next year
we need more people for that to happen ;) thanks for your kind words, hollowone. still, I just can't disagree with lack-of-speed pleas. I KNOW it's something that needs to be (vastly) improved in my productions. Time will show...

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Just curious, does the demo run in full overscan? If it does, I'm dazzled.
there are some effects which actually go overscan, but it wasn't designed this way and there are some glitches involved (if you run watch the "panorama" effect on real hardware and proper display you'll see the strips extend vertically, but 16px clipping occurs beyond the screen)
added on the 2023-08-29 14:21:22 by domel domel
That music was most satisfying! Beautiful! keep going :)
rulez added on the 2023-08-29 15:14:27 by adkd adkd
I've only seen the youtube version, but overall it's nice with good ideas, great gfx and nice music.
In my opinion, a few scenes could be smoother even in Amos, which is an interesting language, but I won't elaborate on that point, as there's no point.
I enjoyed watching this demo.
rulez added on the 2023-08-29 18:22:54 by Aghnar Aghnar
I do like the concept and ideas and the visual implementation of them.

However the system requirements and specs are too fluffy.
added on the 2023-08-30 08:00:21 by AlienTech AlienTech
The creative use of shadebobs made me smile, nice.
rulez added on the 2023-08-30 09:02:06 by keito keito
nice idea, good pixel art, rest of the execution was a bit lackluster though.
added on the 2023-08-30 10:39:03 by psenough psenough
What Alientech wrote, 2023-08-30
A very cute demo. I like the comic-like gfx and how the fxs are here
and there embedded into it in a very creative way; I speak of the
vertical color bars (=polar lights) and the shade bobs (=rocket smoke).
I enjoyed watching and listenting to it. Thanks.
rulez added on the 2023-09-02 19:56:29 by ROG_VF ROG_VF
Some cool and nice ideas here. Shadebobs as rocket fire for example. But please try to improve speed and fit regular Amiga specs with same cool ideas for a thumb up.
added on the 2023-09-02 21:43:12 by ok3anos ok3anos
It really got me. Thank you !
rulez added on the 2023-09-27 05:08:29 by thomas^sd thomas^sd

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