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Assembly Summer oldskool compo rules

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Hi!

Since the Assembly Summer oldskool compo is always such a hot topic, we decided to try something new this year.

Crowd sourced rules!

You get to vote from three basic rule sets, the one with the most votes will be what we run in the compo. Only votes in this thread will be counted and you have until and including 2016-02-15 to vote. To clarify: votes posted on 2016-02-16 will not be counted.

Here's what you get to choose from:
1) 8-bit computers. Only original generally available 8-bit computers, no FPGAs, no remakes/clones.
2) Midschool. Pentium 133/ET6000 PCI/GUS, Amiga AGA 060, Atari Falcon 060
3) Year limit 1992. The idea here is not that you start researching the best possible 1992 hw, but more like what normal people could afford in 1992.. So no GUS or other grey area stuff.

So. Vote away!

Br,
The AsmS Oldskool organizers, Jope and Brite
added on the 2016-01-25 18:27:13 by Jope Jope
3.
and if it is anyway possible please try to list platforms in scope / out of scope - especially in the grey area to avoid "nillitys".
added on the 2016-01-25 18:38:07 by gr gr
Kakkonen on ykkönen. Vote for Two (2).
added on the 2016-01-25 18:41:28 by mikron mikron
3.
added on the 2016-01-25 18:41:42 by visy visy
3.
added on the 2016-01-25 18:47:02 by Trilkk Trilkk
2.
added on the 2016-01-25 18:52:38 by Charlie Charlie
2.
added on the 2016-01-25 18:53:37 by noby noby
3. because 2 would mean dropping C64 demos to real wild which feels weird to me.

I would love to bump up the year limit a bit to make AGA+030/50 eligible.
added on the 2016-01-25 18:57:56 by fragment fragment
2. And Amiga is #1 :D
added on the 2016-01-25 18:58:36 by mayday mayday
3
added on the 2016-01-25 19:11:31 by break break
3
added on the 2016-01-25 19:16:55 by Omegas Omegas
3.
"Ultrasound "Classic": released in 1991, 256 to 1024kB of RAM, GF1 based"
http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Gravis_Ultrasound

Also I remember that early spring winter 1992 Mysdee / Byterapers had GUS already, board version 1.7? (Mysdee can you clarify?)

So that's not really a gray area.
added on the 2016-01-25 19:29:59 by mikron mikron
3 - but should be defined more clearly what is allowed
added on the 2016-01-25 19:30:27 by groepaz groepaz
mikron: the "no GUS" will probably stay anyway
added on the 2016-01-25 19:45:10 by britelite britelite
1+2.

Why go to all the trouble just to limit the kind of entries people can bring? Just have an oldschool compo & a midschool compo and be done with it.

It's bizarre that none of your proposed rulesets would allow both a C64 demo and a 486+GUS demo to be shown.
added on the 2016-01-25 19:54:58 by jmph jmph
3

"Normal people" price limit is a weasel and needs to be specified or dropped. A3000 was only produced from 90-92, but was it affordable in that sense? Also A600/A1200/A4000 were introduced in 92, thus ranging up to 040@25MHz. Would they all be in?
added on the 2016-01-25 20:08:31 by noname noname
3
or 4) computer systems that are no longer (mass-)produced by the original manufacturer. ;)
added on the 2016-01-25 20:14:12 by Maali Maali
3
added on the 2016-01-25 20:18:31 by ts ts
1. +A500
or
3. limit to 1990

Pentium 133, Falcon, AGA - I remember it as newschool when C64, A500, ZX, XE were called oldschool
added on the 2016-01-25 20:18:56 by ISL ISL
Quote:
"Normal people" price limit is a weasel and needs to be specified or dropped.


The rules will be clarified later, it was just a rough guideline here.

Quote:
A3000 was only produced from 90-92, but was it affordable in that sense? Also A600/A1200/A4000 were introduced in 92, thus ranging up to 040@25MHz. Would they all be in?


Yes, yes.

They were expensive machines back then, but hobbyists could afford them. I had people with A3000s and A4000/040s in my computer club when these machines were new. Not many hobbyists could afford Sun or SGI hardware back then though.
added on the 2016-01-25 20:24:33 by Jope Jope
Hobbyist in 1992 Amigascene = hardware allowed, but de facto pc sound card which was acquirable for the hobbyists (see Mysdee case) at the same time is banned? Lol wtf please.
added on the 2016-01-25 20:27:51 by mikron mikron
Quote:

Why go to all the trouble just to limit the kind of entries people can bring? Just have an oldschool compo & a midschool compo and be done with it.


It might be possible to squeeze two old computer compos in to the very crowded asm timetable, but let's face it, there probably wouldn't be enough productions for both compos at asm.

Quote:
It's bizarre that none of your proposed rulesets would allow both a C64 demo and a 486+GUS demo to be shown.


Indeed, but that's how the compo was run for many years in the 00's. Some people were petitioning for a return to that in the years when we had different rules, so we decided to make it an option.

I wrote no GUS above, but out of curiosity, were there any GUS demos released in 1992? I found some from 1993, but I was very much an Amiga guy during those years, so I don't remember what the PC guys had back then.
added on the 2016-01-25 20:29:58 by Jope Jope
mikron: how many PC-demos from '92 can you name that supported GUS?
added on the 2016-01-25 20:30:14 by britelite britelite

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