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AI crap in compo entries?

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700 posts total, 250 of which were written by 4gentE, Krill and bifat, what an achievement!
added on the 2024-04-20 12:47:24 by havoc havoc
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700 posts total, 250 of which were written by 4gentE, Krill and bifat, what an achievement!
Now, please split that figure of 250 up to the 3 users' individual posts.
added on the 2024-04-20 12:54:38 by Krill Krill
Or don't.
added on the 2024-04-20 12:58:02 by Gargaj Gargaj
Sorry 4gentE, I cannot give more hints on why TM2 might be good artistically. I do not believe in objectively good or bad stuff. Greippi was the creative mind here, I was his sidekick and did mostly grunt work. Maybe it's just a matter of taste. I cannot rule out that some people really appreciated TM2 even for artistic reasons.
I think that many thumbs here on Pouet as well as ratings on csdb etc. are for confirmation and friendship reasons. I catch myself doing this and I know it's bad. It may be doing buddies a short-term favour, but probably it's not doing our work a favour as a whole, in the long run. So yes, of course, perhaps TM2 got too many thumbs up for confirmation reasons, too.
added on the 2024-04-20 12:59:05 by bifat bifat
Hey Havoc! Long time no see! How's Dikkie Dik?
added on the 2024-04-20 13:00:16 by bifat bifat
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No. Take your weird conspiracy theories somewhere else. Thank you. =)

Pretty rude thing to say. I thought we were, you know, communicating. Why are you being so aggressive with this fierce defense? You make some good prods, you make some bad prods, what's the big deal about this one? Again, I feel like I'm missing some hidden yet important context.
added on the 2024-04-20 13:05:58 by 4gentE 4gentE
Perhaps that context will become clearer once you stop with the false dichotomies.
added on the 2024-04-20 13:09:02 by Krill Krill
@bifat:

I like to flatter myself about being aware of certain biases I lug around.
1) I know I have a bias that favors certain level of visual quality/coherence which stems from my proffession.
2) I know I have a bias that favors minimalism which stems from long involvement within a certain field. This is a well recognized occurance.

Thanks for having patience to try and explain your point of view to me.
added on the 2024-04-20 13:11:08 by 4gentE 4gentE
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Perhaps that context will become clearer once you stop with the false dichotomies.

Oh god, you sound like you're so happy and proud you learned the term "false dichotomy" that you just can't stop saying it.
added on the 2024-04-20 13:14:11 by 4gentE 4gentE
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Oh god, you sound like you're so happy and proud you learned the term "false dichotomy" that you just can't stop saying it.

I know, right? It's practically in all his posts!
added on the 2024-04-20 13:24:44 by absence absence
Lol, you guys still going? Wild!
added on the 2024-04-21 11:59:19 by okkie okkie
Who knew complex topics result in long threads.
added on the 2024-04-21 12:22:16 by Gargaj Gargaj
make a braid!
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The cheating is already there, has always been


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I don't worry about it "dominating" the scene or other artforms, at least not in the current state: It's soulless. The results are typically bland and quite uninspired.


Prompt: 90s sci-fi, woman in red suit, laser gun, in the style of Boris Vallejo
(aka pretty much every still in every demo in the 90s)
added on the 2024-04-21 23:45:39 by tomkh tomkh
You forgot "victoria secrets"
added on the 2024-04-22 18:02:17 by groepaz groepaz
Tempted to feed this thread to gpt and start posting its replies.
added on the 2024-04-23 09:50:54 by sol_hsa sol_hsa
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Tempted to feed this thread to gpt and start posting its replies.
Pretty sure you wouldn't be the first one to do so. =)
added on the 2024-04-23 11:53:44 by Krill Krill
CRAP = Complex topics Reccurent AI Posting ;)
added on the 2024-04-23 14:18:57 by sim sim
There is an obvious reason why the demoscene fears AI...
AI produces technically passable, artistically poor, stereotypical cliché material.
It gets perspective, lightning, and many other technical aspects quite right.
It's completely devoid of expression and originality.
It poaches in the very realm of surface value and superficiality that is characteristic of the demoscene...
It can provide good raw material for pop art collages.
If your style is original, it's not threatened by AI.
AI can even provide a benchmark for originality.
added on the 2024-04-25 08:10:57 by bifat bifat
I like the use of AI in demoscene, it makes our demos look good!
added on the 2024-04-25 09:34:18 by spkr spkr
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I like the use of AI in demoscene, it makes our demos look good!

Do you mean that before that your demos were not looking good? ;)
added on the 2024-04-25 11:55:56 by sim sim
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If your style is original, it's not threatened by AI.


What your words also imply is: "If your style is original, run away from the demoscene as far as you can."
added on the 2024-04-25 14:50:02 by 4gentE 4gentE
I guess we just reached the point, where someone has to post this. It's the law.

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(Yes, I'm also very original and different.)
added on the 2024-04-25 15:11:50 by Charlie Charlie
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If your style is original, it's not threatened by AI.

What your words also imply is: "If your style is original, run away from the demoscene as far as you can."

That's the pessimistic version. The optimistic version is: You can make a difference, show them how it can be done. (It's always been like that.)
added on the 2024-04-25 15:25:31 by bifat bifat

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