ep/hugi trying to destroy our demoscene community?

category: general [glöplog]
I'm amazed anyone still contributes to diskmags.
added on the 2008-04-04 17:28:25 by kusma kusma
fuck that, kusma.. zine rules! :D
kusma: you're so 2006.
added on the 2008-04-04 17:36:08 by smash smash
what kusma said.

i remember this ep guy though, from past threads.
added on the 2008-04-04 17:43:47 by superplek superplek
@Adok:If any of your editors or ex-editors is destroying his reputation, he's also killing the reputation of all the project he's been working for. Btw.:I'm not convinced that he wont come back writing for Hugi. Guess at least some people were waiting that you would dissociate from this person and his behavior, which you sadly didn't.

All you write is that he will not write for your mag anymore, which is really something different.
added on the 2008-04-04 17:51:32 by ghandy ghandy
ghandy: He didn't destroy his reputation; he never had one.

smash: Diskmags will make a big comeback in 2025 together with Beta MAX, Text-TV and HD-DVD.
added on the 2008-04-04 17:56:23 by kusma kusma
lol kusma :)
added on the 2008-04-04 17:57:08 by Axel Axel
To: "Webmaster Hogeschool Rotterdam" <webmaster@hro.nl>
From: emmapwork emmapwork" <emmapwork@gmail.com>
Subject: university server usage non conforming to laws
Time: 3-4-2008 2:00:52


I've noticed that in your university, a server is used for illegal usage:
it hosts www.pouet.net, www.scene.org and many more, IP =
This server is used by irresponsible young drunk people (see some photos at www.slengpung.com) and see some horrible pictures posted there here: http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=14&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.poue t.net%2Fdemoblog.php%3Fwho%3D665%26com%3D25%26page%3D3&ei=KB30R5nuO6LEwQGQupH 7DA&usg=AFQjCNFdyUjeRjsMWso81rm5KBmqaRoTXw&sig2=kAH2mpWM1NZ75yqBlXXqig
It's not the only one and there is even threats of death, drug consumption, ...
->http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. pouet.net%2Ftopic.php%3Fwhich%3D2991%26page%3D1&ei=aR30R7-QJIPUwwGZtpz3DA& ;usg=AFQjCNHxNflvvSnW4DAAbF9I6stdryM07g&sig2=FQiKx-vMAKQmJTQNbtm6uA
->http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. pouet.net%2Fdemoblog.php%3Fwho%3D15830%26com%3D25%26page%3D3&ei=oR30R_bfGYe4w wHw_qWFDQ&usg=AFQjCNEwDPqDaTTbcYfiRIKlZIPkLEjCWA&sig2=-Ef02RrE2J3jKa4LOF2 POw

Please SHUT DOWN this server and ensure all the datas stored there are handled to the police: those guys are part of a multinational cracking organisation called the scene.

A letter will be sent to your university director to inform him about these illegal usage.

Thanks not to waste tax payers money and be careful in the future.




Except the links, there's nothing wrong in this mail.
added on the 2008-04-04 18:04:29 by tobé tobé
kusma: this must be the year when duke nukem forever will be released, then
added on the 2008-04-04 18:16:22 by src src

As I've already written in this thread, EP has decided not to write for Hugi any more.

We are already working on Hugi #35 and are looking forward to your articles.

Yes, I have understood that, you showed before that you have no problem with letting a deranged cyber stalker write articles for your magazine, and as you clearly point out, it is EP that has chosen not to write for hugi, its not you who has shown any decency by taking a stand and throwing him out.

If I wrote magazine articles I wouldnt write for your magazine. I hate the nutcases who choose the scene as their playground for destroying, stalking and harassing and I am amazed that there are people who are willing to sink as low as to cooperate with them.
Try to grasp that with your amazing intelligence.
added on the 2008-04-04 18:17:57 by hollowman hollowman
Wow, that's an awful lot of discussion for such a lousy and dilettante attempt of "sabotage". Guess he's reading all this somewhere "in America" with a big grin on his face...
added on the 2008-04-04 18:19:32 by Stebo Stebo
lol.. this one is exellent!!!
sounds like a late April fool hoax to me ;)
added on the 2008-04-04 19:03:41 by -olli- -olli-
Hi there!

*sigh* I just came home from the office and than this..

I havent read the entire thread yet, infact only the first page
but I am already feeling sick and tired, let me assure you, EP did
this all by himself adok and me have nothing to do with this.
Neither has Hugi. Could someone perhaps delete the name 'hugi'
from the thread ? And this will have consequences for EP.
Now I will first talk to adok and come with a more detailed oppinion on this matter I need to think.

in advance, with only reading page 1, I am sorry for all stir EP is causing
on behalve of the Hugi diskmag. We are trying our best since issue 32 to make it as good as we can improving with every issue.

again, adok, me and hugi have nothing do to with what EP is doing now!

friendly regards,
added on the 2008-04-04 19:05:01 by magic magic
hugi sukks ass
adok/magic : can you confirm this is ep's email address ?

if he really sent such a spam on behalf of hugi he's really a bastard. adok did a repeated mistake by giving ep the megaphone he abused, but that would be unfair to associate and assassinate the whole work in the latest hugi issues with ep's ultimate lameness.
added on the 2008-04-04 19:14:47 by Zest Zest
Ok, so I could not resist and read the entire thread immidiatly..

Its true EP wrote us that he would not write any articles anymore..
But he already did write some article which he sended in. Quite harmfull to sceners. After the feedback I got on issue 34 adok and I decided to put his send in articles on the magnifying glass and be very criticall.. Adok and I agreed not to publish them and told EP to concentrate on interviews for example (I liked those atleast)

*sigh* again I am sorry it came to this.. Soon we will come with a official statement on the www.hugi.scene.org website.. Takes some time to coordinate with all other hugi staff members..

Untill than, sorry again, and we have nothing to do with this whatsoever..

added on the 2008-04-04 19:18:03 by magic magic
magic \o/
added on the 2008-04-04 19:30:09 by runa runa
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added on the 2008-04-04 19:34:34 by cp_ cp_
As I've already written in this thread, EP has decided not to write for Hugi any more.

..and as we have previously written in this thread, that is not true. He has approached Scene.org staff for material to another Hugi article, but since that point doesn't seem to register, here are some mails to look at:

From: emmapwork@gmail.com
Date: 23.03.2008 19:03
Subject: [staff] file statistics request


i would like to get some statistics about scene.org files like

(article-related question removed - ZINE editors don't steal or publish anyone elses stuff, even crazy people)

thanks to provide me with them if possible or to say me if pouet or another
site contains these relevant statistics for scene.org.
it's for writing an article about demos.


..and the follow-up reply:

From: emmapwork@gmail.com
Date: Wed, March 26, 2008 18:19
Subject: Re: [staff] file statistics request

Hi Bent,

(article content removed - for the same reason as above)
The angle is to get an objective view through reliable statistics from scene.org and pouet.net for a scener readership. It will be published in Hugi 35, deadline isn't known so far. I've yet get the stats from pouet. I've get in the know that you're editor of zine and so hope you'll not hook the idea ;) for your own articles.

So -- apparently he hasn't "quit the scene", and he is also saying that this article will be published in Hugi 35 so why don't you just have a nice warm cup of Hypocracy Remover(tm) and renounce this person once and for all?

Oh, and another thing; stop hiding behind "oh, what we ment was that we wouldn't publish any NEW articles by him, we weren't talking about the ones he had already submitted" crap.
added on the 2008-04-04 20:07:47 by gloom gloom
gloom, ep is full of shit though. If he says that his article is going to be published in Hugi 35 that's not really a guarantee is it. OTOH I don't know why I'm defending Hugi staff, they've dug their own grave by publishing his god-awful articles in the past.
parapete: Exactly, he is full of shit, which is why the "he has said he won't contribute to Hugi any more"-defense is shit. Why am I not seeing any "even if he sends us stuff we will not put it in the mag"-messages? Adok, Magic - that one is for you.
added on the 2008-04-04 20:21:59 by gloom gloom
Except the links, there's nothing wrong in this mail.
I used my elite cracking skills and removed some spaces and got 2 out of 3 to work. Might get the other one too if I get really bored someday.
added on the 2008-04-04 20:22:02 by El Topo El Topo
gloom: Yep, fair point.
Gloom, take in mind what I wrote earlier in this thread. Only Adok and me dicides what will be published in hugi#35 in the end.

Adok and me already decided after the feedback on Hugi#34 in the first week after the release of Hugi#34 (release date 22 februari 2008 we would not accept any articles from EP which are hurtfull to other sceners. (Especially after a nice chat I had with Gargaj on the irc)

On the 30/3/8 23:25 we got the e-mail EP quit's and won't finish his started articles..

Gloom, how would you react when Ghandy had wrote this email with a link to zine online on the bottom of this email ? This is the situation here and now..

So, again, we dont have anything to do with EP's actions and dont agree with them either..

p.s. EP is a smart fellow, dont him play Hugi against the scene and visa versa..

added on the 2008-04-04 20:39:24 by magic magic

Gloom, a "nice warm cup of Hypocracy Remover(tm) and renounce this person once and for all" will come you can bet on this!

added on the 2008-04-04 20:43:30 by magic magic