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milkdrop - game or lame?

category: gfx [glöplog]
 
Heya!

I know most sceners probably think milkdrop/other vis plugins are a quite lame way to generate cool fx, because it requires not really much skill or tends to always generate the same looking effects.
While this might be true for the first generation of milkdrop (and the like), with version 2.0 (which was released in 2007 already) Ryan Geiss added support for shaders, which enhances the possibilites making presets quite a lot.
Since md2 got bundled with winamp the developers were adding new presets here and there, and while some of them really look amazing compared to the old ones, I cant get rid of the feeling that the end of what is possible with milkdrop is far, far away.
I am enjoying Ryans plugins ever since when geiss 1.0 got released way back in the late 90s and still like to have it running when doing other stuff or in fullscreen mode when Im using my PC as jukebox and have some folks over.

So I'd like to know your point of view on the topic, maybe there are even sceners who have been playing around with the editor when none of the other groupmembers were looking? ;)

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added on the 2011-03-08 00:57:24 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
I think guybrush of northern dragons did some milkdrop plugins (whatever you call them)
added on the 2011-03-08 01:27:05 by sigflup sigflup
Depends what you do with it I guess.. something mindblowing is mindblowing regardless of platform.

Other than that, if you're getting into coding, things like this are a great way to learn some gfx coding skills. Of course you'll still have to do your 6 years apprenticeship on c64 coding only in asm, or you won't be allowed into the elite club ;)
added on the 2011-03-08 02:03:40 by psonice psonice
There are some VERY impressive effect sets in the MD2.x. Also noticed new winamp 5.5x version has updated fx sets.
added on the 2011-03-08 07:44:26 by leGend leGend
Milkdrop <3
added on the 2011-03-08 18:22:04 by bdk bdk
Milkdrop certainly has some cool presets. The problem with milkdrop as I understand it is that its always a flat surface so that limits what you can do with it. My own visualizer/sound sensitive screensaver overcomes that problem. On the other hand it doesn't hold a candle to the sheer amount of cool milkdrop presets that are out there. Like my favorite preset stormy sea by martin.
added on the 2011-03-08 18:29:35 by Xetick Xetick
I do like Milkdrop too.The problem I have with it is the same as with Pandora, it'll do pretty stuff when you're alone but it shows utter crap when people are around.
added on the 2011-03-09 00:57:26 by mog mog
@Xetick yes that preset indeed rocks hard!
Sadly the community around milkdrop seems to have faded, all i find is from 2009 or older or some scare posts on the forums.
Too bad if you ask me. Maybe there should be a Milkdrop fast/funcompo at an upcoming demoparty to create some new ones (im even sure it wouldnt be too hard to get them bundled with winamp, heh) =).
In fact i believe Ryan would have made an awesome demoscener, just look at his (not so) recently posted set of fractal renders!
added on the 2011-03-10 00:50:54 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
I played with milkdrop a couple of years ago... but far from visualising music in a random and abstract way, there's barely any use for that, especially generating cool 3D stuff. -.-
added on the 2011-03-10 01:22:01 by yumeji yumeji
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added on the 2011-03-14 01:07:54 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
that's pretty ugly if you ask me.
well, I have to admit it looked cooler yesterday night
must be because of the missing motion and/or alcohol ;).
added on the 2011-03-14 14:56:21 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
That milkdrop preset wolud possibly look very cool wit a kind of nacre texture, I'd say :)
added on the 2011-03-14 16:28:04 by bdk bdk
buff, texture = palette, nevermind.
added on the 2011-03-14 16:28:25 by bdk bdk

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