Someone's selling t-shirts with demoscene logos

category: offtopic [glöplog]
I recently stumbled upon this site - where some guy by the name of Tore Andersen is selling t-shirts of (classic) demoscene logos. As far as i know, without having any permission.
I send him an email to remove all these designs, but he didn't respond to it.

So i'm just dropping it here. Any author who spots his logo could contact spreadshirt (the service he's using) here: department.verify@spreadshirt.com

Some examples of the stuff he's selling:
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added on the 2013-03-24 10:53:52 by Sander Sander
I say fair play to the guy for having the initiative and spotting great designs. I'd be well happy to see someone wearing a tshirt with one of my logos.
added on the 2013-03-24 12:04:29 by Wade Wade
Just creating some awareness here, if the original authors have a problem with it they can take action. In my case (the vision logo), i'm also selling it myself on t-shirts, therefore i have a problem with it. Aswell as not asking for permission.
added on the 2013-03-24 12:21:57 by Sander Sander
Wade: you're seriously using the "YouTube comment on the Timbaland-rip argument"?
added on the 2013-03-24 12:45:56 by gloom gloom
Looks like the site is used to stuff like this: Intellectual Property Rights Policy
added on the 2013-03-24 13:20:14 by kusma kusma
Gloom: The difference is Timbaland is claiming he created the stolen music, whereas this guy is not taking credit for the art, he's just printing it and making it available in t-shirt form.

I don't think it's that bad. If the artists were so against their work being distributed, they'd have it copyrighted, but the nature of the scene is to make stuff for fun and allow it to be distributed.

Sander: Ideally he would ask for permission, I agree. If the artists contacted him and asked him to remove (or pay for) the work and he refused, then I would say he was out of line.

Has he replied to you about your logo?
added on the 2013-03-25 11:36:48 by Wade Wade
...he's just printing it and making it available in t-shirt form.

And cashing in on it, no? I mean as far as I understand Spreadshirt, he has no costs, only profit, right?
added on the 2013-03-25 12:47:46 by Gargaj Gargaj
You're right Gargaj. I misunderstood and thought he was printing the t-shirts himself, but I've just looked into Spreadshirt and it seems he is selling the actual designs, not the t-shirts.

I see Sander's point now and this is unacceptable. I also get Gloom's point about the Timbaland argument.
added on the 2013-03-25 13:30:37 by Wade Wade
i dealed with this guy last year too when he sold/printed stuff/logo's from me, at first he was like, well lol didnt know pirates cared about gfx and copyright lolol. but when i explained to him that im not a pirate, but a pixeler/graphicartist, and did not like the idea of him printing my stuff and sell it for money, he agreed and removed all my stuff. I also told him to respect other ppl's stuff and not print anything without permission.

Now i see this topic popping up again, and heh a logo of me is in the list.. again =)
added on the 2013-03-25 14:11:35 by alien^PDX alien^PDX
i got a better deal from roy^sac, at least his shirts had all the logos on one!
added on the 2013-03-25 14:25:54 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
alternatively we can all decide to do less good logos so noone would bother getting them on tshirts! ;)
added on the 2013-03-25 14:30:04 by havamal havamal
his shirts had all the logos on one!

To be completely honest, that does kinda sound like a cool shirt.
added on the 2013-03-25 14:31:09 by Gargaj Gargaj
Yeah. "Hey Topy . . . " (;
added on the 2013-03-25 14:33:09 by metoikos metoikos
I´d call it very fearless already to trying to sell scott pilgrim video game shirts. Surely, Ubisoft will be sending bloodhounds pretty soon.
added on the 2013-03-25 14:36:36 by wertstahl wertstahl
You automatically get copyright on a work of art, if it has so called artistic level distinct from similar works of art. Whether you are awarded that right is ultimately up to a court of law. To prove you're the author, you need something or someone that testifies you're the author.

This can be done with a copyright witness, or by sending copies of the artwork to yourself in sealed envelopes. (This is what I did with sources when I made commercial software. The envelope must be date-stamped to prove prior art.) A simpler way today is to personally host a site, upload it there, and write a copyright claim next to the artworks.

Neither is a guarantee, but strengthens your case should it go to court. If you are unwilling to spend time/money to sue, you can only ask to cease and desist.

The same rules apply to printing on a t-shirt as for hosting the artwork on a website, for example.

Note that each work of art is separate, or it wouldn't have artistic level and therefore wouldn't be copyrightable.
added on the 2013-03-25 22:39:14 by Photon Photon
Does anyone have an update on this?
added on the 2013-06-28 21:17:06 by dubmood dubmood
Dubmood: the site is still alive and kicking at least - Alien: did you report it for using your IP?
added on the 2013-06-28 23:07:19 by gloom gloom
..and he's clearly doing it for profit, being registered as a business in Gulesider.dk as well as having a D&B number.
added on the 2013-06-28 23:13:41 by gloom gloom
In the end I sent Spreadshirt my workstages, which convinced them to remove my work.

Unfortunately I could not arrange anything for the other logos, they demanded the original authors should contact Spreadshirt themselves. (twitter@spreadshirt.com - the email i ended up mailing with).

The guy himself never responded to my emails.
added on the 2013-06-28 23:25:24 by Sander Sander
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So once again you are artists wanting your work to NOT be spread? When will you wake up?
added on the 2013-06-29 15:58:41 by vibrator vibrator
They are artists not wanting other people gain money from their work without receiving a penny in return.
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