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- first name: Tomasz
- last name: D.
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- About the low-effort thing, which seems to be now the main object of critique: sorry to break it down for you, but the view that art must involve visible labor, technical mastery, and so called "effort" is typical for working class aesthetic (Pierre Bourdieu). It makes a lot of sense why, if you think about it. So, no, in general low effort doesn't necessarily mean low value.
- isokadded on the 2026-02-24 20:59:04
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- fizzer: it's more like I was one of the few who had a balanced opinion about it, as opposed to extremely polarized "are you with us or against us" type of view.
- isokadded on the 2026-02-24 14:29:36
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- Quote:
"we can do cool things with AI" then fucking do cool things, this ain't it.
Please go ahead, do cooler things with AI by all means.
This was indeed just a low-effort attempt (which was the whole point really) to show what's possible with off-the-shelf tech used in a demoscene context. But as other said as well, it would be very interesting to push it to its limits. - isokadded on the 2026-02-24 14:04:48
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- darya: this community was never purely artistic. Please don't forget it was technical oriented community at the very beginning. It was all about pushing boundaries what's possible, even directly competing with gaming industry at a time: raycasters on low-end hw, voxel terrains, software raytracing etc... The art was there, just for the entertainment value - and frankly, quite kitschy art, which had it's charm. It's nice that more serious artists joined later on, but this it not exclusively artistic community in a slightest.
About opinions: as you can see, I'm not afraid of backlash, so go ahead. It's just more telling about you than anything else. - isokadded on the 2026-02-24 13:53:20
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- wrighter: so you think it's ok to "hate"? Wow.
- isokadded on the 2026-02-24 13:03:05
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- Byproduct: I don't mind comments like "looks like slop", "not fun to watch" - those are absolutely fair. But what I find peculiar (not that I'm particularly surprised) is personal attacks and complete backlash against the very fact it's AI used in AI-allowed compo.
- isokadded on the 2026-02-24 10:47:17
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- evilpaul: my point stands: it wasn't only dedicated to AI, but the rules were explicitly encouraging for full-AI generated entries. On top of that, the title of the competition was Wild with AI, which should make it crystal clear what to expect.
And the majority of entries in the compo were using AI to some extent. I wouldn't be surprised if, after seeing the backlash here, these authors will never dare to add their prods to pouet. And I don't blame them. - isokadded on the 2026-02-24 10:15:47
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- I respect that people have different opinions about AI.
However, ganging up against an AI production submitted to a dedicated AI competition is crossing the line. It feels less like a critique and more like "be like us or be against us" mentality.
I know this doesn't represent everyone and it's likely just a few individuals, but it’s turning the scene into an unwelcoming place where newcomers (or frankly, everyone) have to constantly watch their back and filter their creativity to avoid harsh backlash. - isokadded on the 2026-02-24 09:40:35
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- NR4: luckily, I'm not performing a colonoscopy here, but rather participating in the Wild with AI compo!
- isokadded on the 2026-02-23 21:51:23
- wild Animation/Video Suboceanic Reimagined by Tomasz Dobrowolski
- darya: dystopian, yes! The line between human and machine starts to blur - we are slowly becoming one.
- isokadded on the 2026-02-23 20:19:03
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