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- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- hitch: if we wanted to static link stuff we'd turn that option on in visual studio. jeesus.
extracting files to disk at runtime is considered uncool by various demoparty rules, so that's also a nono.
- isokadded on the 2007-07-19 14:04:57
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- i cant believe im bothering to explain this.. :)
here's why we have dlls in demolition:
demolition plugins have the .fx extension. demolition is used for all sorts of things, and there are loads of plugins for different purposes. code that has to be shared between plugins is in dlls, so that you only get one instance of it with multiple plugins. in addition some of the dlls are used in other projects (other tools, exporters etc).
it also keeps down link times.
the dlls required by the engine are core, piraya, fxbase, and then bass for the music. some windows dlls and d3dx are probably included in the package just incase someone doesnt have them (but most should already).
as ps vaguely touched on, this project is a really simple use of demolition so it doesnt really need any plugins - just some standard fx. but one doesnt rework the whole system for the sake of that (because that would imply the input of a coder, which is something this slideshow didn't have). :)
as proteque said - it's a slideshow, not a coding showcase. why do people care about whether it has dlls? it's slightly depressing to think people associate the quality of a release with what they see in their explorer window. - isokadded on the 2007-07-19 13:24:44
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- so jumalauta's penis is a lot smaller than ours?
- isokadded on the 2007-07-19 10:24:51
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- ps: im "picky" whenever someone criticises something for a stupid and irrelevant reason. :) to me it's the equivalent of saying "this sucks because the info file wasnt named with an nfo extension!" :) as far as im aware, the demoscene doesnt have some anal "standard release format" we have to abide by.
to answer your point - no denying pretty much any coder could do this particular job from scratch very simply in a single file. but tft didnt have a coder available. our tool is split into dlls due to it's plugin architecture (which is brilliant for the users and developers). and surely the best choice of tool to use for a job is the one that is easiest to use, not the one which has fewest dlls? :)
if you want to criticise it for being done with a demotool, thats a whole other argument. (still a stupid one though.) - isokadded on the 2007-07-19 10:17:50
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- btw, the download link doesnt appear to work :)
- isokadded on the 2007-07-19 09:59:23
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- ps: but i just dont see why it should matter at all. it's not like there would be any benefit in sizeoptimising the code or something when you have a truckload of gfx and music on top. it just seems like a pointless thing to whine about. (and it's still a lot neater than anything with a big fat separate data directory.)
as tft said hes not a coder, and most of those open engines you mentioned would still need a coder to put it together. - isokadded on the 2007-07-19 09:57:10
- Windows you should know better by Those Up Fucked Sceners [web]
- does it _really matter_ how many dlls it comes with?
- isokadded on the 2007-07-18 18:24:13
- demo Windows halfsome by Carillon & Cyberiad [web] & Fairlight [web]
- no, we didnt actually, but thanks for the heads up. :)
- isokadded on the 2007-07-11 18:16:51
- demo Windows halfsome by Carillon & Cyberiad [web] & Fairlight [web]
- gbnd: didnt you consider that maybe the desktop flickering could be related your system? like, maybe you know as much about setting up your pc as you do about dlls? :)
(and if the desktop is fighting with the demo, it'll sure murder your framerate.) - isokadded on the 2007-07-10 10:01:34
- 4k Windows fr-057.cns: Arancia by Conspiracy [web] & Farbrausch [web]
- psonice: sounds like your card is screwed. (you are no longer allowed to rate demos at all, except in video form. :) )
anyway, this is pretty crap - but it is after all a party hack and provided a party which was short on releases with one. - isokadded on the 2007-07-09 13:51:41
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