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PreTracker 1.5 by Abyss [web]
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release date : april 2022
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added on the 2022-04-26 17:13:37 by Pink Pink

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This is a crossdev 'chipmusic' tracker (running on Windows) to create music for Amiga demos, intros and games. All instruments are precalced on song init, hence the name 'PreTracker'.
Used by Abyss in 'Coda', 'Preschool', 'Tinyus', 'Tiny Bobble', 'Wrong Way Driver' and 'Tiny Galaga'.

New in Version 1.5
-Gamedev support (up to 31 Sub Songs, up to 31 Sound Fx)
- Loop crossfade
- Easier loop setup (press the gear icon)
- New ASM / C replayer with support for subsongs/sfx, global volume.
- Many editor bugfixes
- New demo songs included
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 17:21:59 by Pink Pink
Finally! Thank you!
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 18:11:32 by platon42 platon42
Wheee!
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 18:25:36 by Virgill Virgill
I'll take some of that!
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 18:35:43 by Nosferatu Nosferatu
Cool
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 18:59:40 by Serpent Serpent
Replay is taking 10k *packed* and too much raster time on a 68000.
added on the 2022-04-26 19:07:29 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
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Replay is taking 10k *packed* and too much raster time on a 68000.


I know, a real sucker. Nothing that Leonard can't fix (hopefully) ;) Wasn't ready for GERP unfortunately.
added on the 2022-04-26 20:03:31 by platon42 platon42
If you need a very fast and small replayer then Pretracker is not the right choice. Cinter is much better for that. Pretracker is good for very small tunes and to create sounds that add new flavours to Amiga music. However, some fine 50hz OCS games and intros are using the replayer, so it seems at least useable.
added on the 2022-04-26 21:44:30 by Pink Pink
<3
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 21:59:08 by Mystra Mystra
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If you need a very fast and small replayer then Pretracker is not the right choice. Cinter is much better for that. Pretracker is good for very small tunes and to create sounds that add new flavours to Amiga music. However, some fine 50hz OCS games and intros are using the replayer, so it seems at least useable.


Still, it wouldn't be the demoscene if there wasn't room for improvement (the replayer is still C code right? With lots of multiplications?). The biggest problem is the jitter of the replayer (in the sense of required CPU time).

Anyway, it would be really cool if you could provide an alternative binary that only does the sample calculation, as you're probably not willing to provide a source.
added on the 2022-04-26 22:08:27 by platon42 platon42
The output of the sample creation part itself can't be used with a Protracker styled replayer. The sounds of Pretracker can't be recreated with it. Protracker is missing the wavetable synthesis, the adsr, the instrument pattern, the 5 octaves and so on..
added on the 2022-04-26 23:01:45 by Pink Pink
Yes!
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 23:21:35 by xeron xeron
hey Pink, nice to see that you're still alive and holding up the tracker candle !
rulez added on the 2022-04-26 23:23:23 by bsp bsp
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The output of the sample creation part itself can't be used with a Protracker styled replayer. The sounds of Pretracker can't be recreated with it. Protracker is missing the wavetable synthesis, the adsr, the instrument pattern, the 5 octaves and so on..


But a LightSpeedPlayer derivate can use it. That's the point.
added on the 2022-04-27 08:21:09 by platon42 platon42
<3
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 09:43:26 by starbuck starbuck
Tools are beautiful
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 12:56:19 by roudoudou roudoudou
All in one a nice prod. It would certainly be desirable and interesting to publish the complete replayer in C/C++, among other things, so the replayer is not only bounded to 680x0 - and could be used on other platforms too.

At the same time, some people here could try to optimize the replayer with regard to raster lines/CPU ussage/compiled size - and possibly throw out unneeded (effects) routines in their productions to create smaller productions.
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 15:42:00 by MrVainSCL MrVainSCL
tool thumbs
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 16:14:44 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
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But a LightSpeedPlayer derivate can use it. That's the point.


I see your point. I already tried a register dumper with compression for a fast replayer. but the compressed songs were much bigger then the Pretracker songs. Not useable anymore for games where i can have 15 songs plus soundfx in only 30kb workmem. However, it may be still of use in an intro.. perhaps with the next version :)
added on the 2022-04-27 17:21:40 by Pink Pink
Great tool I appreciate to work with. +1 for subsongs.
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 20:19:19 by ok3anos ok3anos
Nice
rulez added on the 2022-04-27 20:21:41 by keops keops
A really interesting sound and a powerful alternative to amigaklang. the quality of the tracks I've heard so far is incredible!!!! Now i just need to have some free time to play with it for a while... hopefully soon ;)
rulez added on the 2022-05-23 17:15:43 by JosSs JosSs
Awesome!
Pink - Cold and Tired one love guys. It's amazing
rulez added on the 2022-05-23 18:52:15 by Benderr Benderr
Neat!
rulez added on the 2022-05-23 19:30:13 by Daniel Daniel
Can't wait to try this out. I remember getting a copy of a pre alpha version at TP94 (if i remember correct). . :)
rulez added on the 2022-06-16 07:58:43 by mr_real mr_real
Well done! I love the music that's being produced with this!
I think I remember some old Amiga software also called pretracker. For creating samples from modules? Not sure.
rulez added on the 2022-06-16 08:42:18 by Dalton Dalton
Great update! Appreciate it!
rulez added on the 2022-06-16 09:33:32 by SoDa7 SoDa7
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Well done! I love the music that's being produced with this!
I think I remember some old Amiga software also called pretracker. For creating samples from modules? Not sure.


Thanks Dalton. You are right. In the 90ties I already made a tool to create chip samples called "PreTracker". but the name was too good not to be reused :)
added on the 2022-06-16 19:07:16 by Pink Pink
great tool as usual from Pink :) Is there a xmplay replayer around ?
added on the 2022-06-24 20:25:52 by aix aix
On Win10k don't work. SDL prod and closed source? Was this serious now?
Another editor is of no interest to anyone if it doesn't appear everywhere: AmigaOS 3.2.1, AmigaOS 4.2, MorphOS, AROS, Linux, Android
Just because there is an open MilkyTracker!
added on the 2022-08-22 22:30:55 by aGGreSSor aGGreSSor
Nice tool, but too bad there is no replay library available to play it on other players (eagle player, xmplay...) so mostly a waste of tooling :(
added on the 2022-09-04 13:27:10 by spengler spengler
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Replay is taking 10k *packed* and too much raster time on a 68000.


Here's the cure: Raspberry Casket Pretracker replayer.

Twice the speed, half the size (packed). Comes with source code.
added on the 2022-12-28 15:33:59 by platon42 platon42
Oh good work platon!
added on the 2022-12-28 16:03:39 by xeron xeron
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Twice the speed, half the size (packed). Comes with source code.


Very nice Platon42 :) Looking also for Presto and how small the songs will be in the end. Lots of opportunities. Keep on your good work!
added on the 2022-12-29 14:28:15 by Pink Pink
<3
rulez added on the 2022-12-30 20:38:17 by LordSpreadpoint LordSpreadpoint
Hi, is it possible to save instruments such as Hively tracker, or do you have to always create new instruments?
added on the 2023-01-11 12:42:24 by rybajda rybajda
PreTracker files can now be played in rePlayer (as an UADE player)
added on the 2023-06-04 22:04:53 by replay replay

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