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Another World 15th Anniversary Edition by Hatred
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release date : january 2007
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added on the 2007-01-31 17:10:14 by StingRay StingRay

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Scroller is much too fast and the text looks very bad with all those glitches. Otherwise somewhat ok remake of the classic Skid Row intro.
added on the 2007-01-31 17:11:47 by StingRay StingRay
Absolutely unwatchable here, ever heard of vsync?

At least this one worked fine and was 4kb: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16332
added on the 2007-01-31 17:22:02 by keops keops
"Another lightspeed release"....=).
Appartently, there is an interesting story behing the original supply of Lemming game to SR dudes on Amiga. I know some rumours about releasing before a retail and +, but never new were they true or not...

For intro. It is OK, never the less the scroll chars are too small imo for this screen resolution.
added on the 2007-01-31 17:22:04 by sim sim
sad that the scrolltextwriter didnt recognise that only lcase chars could be used! ;P for those 'unwatchable fast' dudes... just config your gfxcard to let vsync be application-controlled! lame, i know!
added on the 2007-01-31 17:50:18 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
wait waitttttttt, did not pouet people say that cracktros are not allowed here :D :D
added on the 2007-01-31 18:15:49 by cxczevik cxczevik
I prefer seeing these kind of intros watching on my amiga or c64 and not my dual core multimedia hyperspeed-are-u-nuts pc.

It's 2007...plz improve. :-/
sucks added on the 2007-01-31 18:29:05 by scoutski scoutski
even OSDM is better
sucks added on the 2007-01-31 18:38:41 by Pablo Escrollbar Pablo Escrollbar
It's smooth and ok here, though yes, the scroller could be timed a little slower. And I've seen more interesting "oldschool" demos in the past.
added on the 2007-01-31 18:47:47 by Optimonk Optimonk
remake of a classic..nothing special.
somehow very weak.
anyways.
rulez added on the 2007-01-31 18:57:37 by 4kum4 4kum4
This gives me a massive the ´scene is dead´ impression.....
Well at least this stuff is death.
sucks added on the 2007-01-31 19:58:01 by gentleman gentleman
?? doesn´t start here, gf6800 latest driver, winxp!
added on the 2007-01-31 20:06:19 by Premium Premium
I used to play another world on my amiga i played all trough the end :)
rulez added on the 2007-01-31 20:19:22 by magic magic
Apparently DX8 is not enough for your sinescroller...
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lame, i know!

agreed!
sucks added on the 2007-01-31 21:00:04 by havoc havoc
scroller is a bit too fast (vsync is on) nice otherwise
:/
added on the 2007-01-31 22:27:57 by Skate Skate
rulez added on the 2007-01-31 22:52:56 by iks iks
pouet is strongly not the right place for simple crackintros... sad that some people dont get it and continue uploading them here! oldschoolers visit intro-inferno.com instead! ;-)
added on the 2007-01-31 22:53:15 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
alpha, dont feed the trolls bro :)
added on the 2007-01-31 22:53:55 by iks iks
aLpHa oNe & ikstar: seriously, can't you guys open your eyes and handle criticism just ONCE?!?

You took a famous cracktro from 1991 that ran perfectly on some 7.14MHz machine and you made it look totally bad 16 years later on 2GHz machines.
Not to mention that Scarab guys already made a nice remake in 4kb on amiga.

What did you seriously expect? What you did was everything but oldskool, I'm sorry.

My definition of Oldskool is not about cloning old cracktros and make them look bad on machines that run 300 times faster, sorry.

I do like nice oldskool cracktros and a lot of people on Pouet also do. But this prod you posted is NO oldskool cracktro.
added on the 2007-01-31 23:05:01 by keops keops
eat that :)
added on the 2007-01-31 23:16:01 by gentleman gentleman
I can handle criticism... but its always the same here on pouet! - It can be done on a 7 Mhz machine (believe me, i can do it too, did that a dozen times in the ninetees), it runs too fast on my machine (change gfx card settings), it can be even smaller (who cares, its 22 kb) ... Take a look at the original SR intro... you will notice the scroller is also FAAST! It was just a quick remake to do some of my friends a favour, and they liked it a lot ... this was not done for you 'supereffect' addicted demo guys! Btw. i remember dozens of demos here that did not work or even start on my machine.. perhaps i should take some time to thumb down all of them... like you do in your free time !
added on the 2007-01-31 23:19:51 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
1. Did I give this prod a thumb down? -> No

2. You produce stuff already seen 16 years ago, only you make it much worse for no reason. You don't seriously expect people to congratulate you, do you?

3. You try to fool people with the holy "Oldskool" label. This prod does not qualify Sir.


"You're not oldskool you don't understand nothing"

Yes, probably...
added on the 2007-01-31 23:23:59 by keops keops
goddamnit.. do something with alpha blending, 3D, bump + displacement maps, softsynths, growing tubes, realtime shadows.... just don't do this, okay? even in 1992 there were demotools that allowed you to make stuff like this in a few minutes.. sorry..

i tried it and it worked, but it's definitely not worth watching again..
sucks added on the 2007-01-31 23:38:08 by earx earx
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pouet is strongly not the right place for simple crackintros... sad that some people dont get it and continue uploading them here! oldschoolers visit intro-inferno.com instead! ;-)


Wow, thanks for that one. So I should have been on Amiga since 1911 (pun intended) to be oldschool enough for you? Anyway, if you can't stand any feedback/criticism you should not release anything at all, as simple as that! Calling everyone bloody n00b who dares to criticise your intro doesn't make your intro any better at all...
added on the 2007-01-31 23:51:45 by StingRay StingRay
nepozorte pidarasy krak scenu
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 00:26:31 by BiTL BiTL
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It can be done on a 7 Mhz machine (believe me, i can do it too, did that a dozen times in the ninetees)

Then grab that old machine and pull something up other than a remake, for cryin' out loud!
And *cough*...bbcode and unicode doesn't work on Skid Row covers....bwahaha
added on the 2007-02-01 00:45:03 by d0DgE d0DgE
keops : have i ever shown in that thread that i was not able to handle criticism? I dont think so, kthx. Puting a thumbs UP for a cracktro is something i always do, cause i love cracktros (except that fucked up IRRM one i added some weeks ago :) and cause i love alpha one's work, whatever he says on a prod's thread. Now, if thumbing up a prod is considering himself as a guy who cant handle criticism, you just showed me that i dont understand anything to life nor to pouet.
added on the 2007-02-01 01:43:10 by iks iks
And about that sentence i told about the trolls, it was not ment to Stingray (look at your query on irc bro :) nor to you Keops, nor to anyone who doesnt want himself to be considered as a troll. It was ment in a general way, to make alpha one understand that replying in a prod's thread aint the solution, and that pouet users will always have something to say about what you said, whatever is being told on whatever topic. That's pouet. Nothing more, nothing less, now, if you had some advices on how to get that cutie in my bed and how to manage my feelings towards her, i'd be more than happy to listen, but in the meantime, i'm off, good night, happy new year.
added on the 2007-02-01 01:46:38 by iks iks
what jeenio said
rulez added on the 2007-02-01 02:40:14 by EviL EviL
Another funny, but typical pouet.net user comment: "Apparently DX8 is not enough for your sinescroller..." ... LOL! K I will change my DX Init just because you are too lazy to install DX9! About Stingray: I didnt know you are at least 96! How was scene life in 1911, plz pm me!
added on the 2007-02-01 06:14:25 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
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rulez added on the 2007-02-01 07:59:52 by Shockwave Shockwave
People will have different opinions, but to thumb down because of a card that had vsync disabled??? or to say you can't read the scroll because your refresh rate is too fast?

It ran fine for me btw. It's a real pain in the ass to code for people who fuck around with the vsync settings on their cards, you should re-enable sync and look again, this is an almost perfect conversion of the classic cracktro by Dan of Anarchy and just for the nice feelings it brings it's worth both thumbs up for me.

Another thing about making a product that has some sort of sine scroll inside it, you need vsync enabled. 3D hardware accelerated stuff looks great with no vsync and delta timing, but it is nearly impossible to code something like this without the scroll looking choppy if there is no sync.

This is not a rant, I just feel that some of you are missing out on seeing an excellent conversion as it should be. There aren't enough people keeping the olschool spirit alive in the scene any more...
added on the 2007-02-01 09:16:06 by Shockwave Shockwave
I thought oldschool spirit was about making cool stuff. I can only agree with Keops.
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 09:50:38 by Preacher Preacher
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 10:00:54 by las las
i have the warez but not this cracktro. i'll check it out later.
added on the 2007-02-01 10:02:23 by linde linde
Oh, before I forget.. it doesn't work in Vista.
added on the 2007-02-01 10:06:05 by scoutski scoutski
lol @ alpha one, shockwave and ikstar :) i think it was too fast or something. looked better on amiga
added on the 2007-02-01 10:21:02 by uns3en_ uns3en_
buy some glasses uns3en and have another try.
added on the 2007-02-01 10:29:03 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
personally i think its ok to say "damn this productions sucks and its incredible lame to rls a messed up remakeshit like this" & vote it down.

but i like it. hehe

added on the 2007-02-01 11:06:02 by 4kum4 4kum4
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rulez added on the 2007-02-01 11:11:10 by dalezr dalezr
another scene drama @pouet...mostly by people doing nothing...of course we can love/hate/ignore a production, of course we can thumb up/thumb down a prod without even checking it (I bet a LOT of people here does not even check the prod itself...)...but why the hell does it end in a conflict when people do not agree with each others?? (I'm not speaking about that particular production but about comments here in general)

It's a remake of an existing amiga cracktro, so, why did you expect anything else?
The real question is "does is it match the original one?" Yes, it does!

There are soooo many reason why a prod can be thumbed down, there is always a "good" reason to do so...what about thumbing down all prods that has no mac conversion from now? silly, no? there are comments here with the same level...
Holy fuck Alpha! next time, you have consider to use dx3! damn...think about the poor fellows here, having a top PC but still using dx3...for some weird and unknown reasons...these are the real oldschoolers...doing nothing, leaving in the past...
rulez added on the 2007-02-01 11:36:49 by druid druid
i totally love the broken font.

when will people realize that if they're going for cracktros, the standard starts at hitchhikr's stuff?
added on the 2007-02-01 12:02:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
dont worry alpha_1 .. the people who thumb this down are homos, so if you piggy this or thumb it down, it means you liked watching broke back mountain.

rulez added on the 2007-02-01 12:05:57 by stuey stuey
broken font because scrolltextwriter used wrong chars and did not test! there is a fixed version on intro-inferno.com!
added on the 2007-02-01 12:06:22 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
Gargaj, send us the skills, we'll reconsider our "standards".
added on the 2007-02-01 12:11:14 by iks iks
Works ok on my machine and looks okayish, so no thumb down ;)

But seriously, what's up with the funked up font? Didn't you actually bother to watch the intro even once after writing the texts? And even if the font only includes chars for lowercase, it's not that bloody hard to code a writer that can handle both lower- and uppercase in the text...
added on the 2007-02-01 12:11:22 by britelite britelite
How hard is it to filter out uppercase chars (or rather convert them to lowercase) if you don't have them in your font? That for the people who speak about quality here...
added on the 2007-02-01 12:14:21 by StingRay StingRay
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Gargaj, send us the skills, we'll reconsider our "standards".

Urh? First off, who's "us"? Secondly, wasn't this "demoscene" thing about one's own skills and improving them? Thirdly, am I missing irony here?
added on the 2007-02-01 12:16:01 by Gargaj Gargaj
Seems Britelite had the same idea. :)
added on the 2007-02-01 12:16:12 by StingRay StingRay
I didn't expect such stupidity of the scrolltextwriters, sorry Stringray! ;P
added on the 2007-02-01 12:19:03 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
Gargaj, it was ironic, not offensive at all. I was not at all involved in that cracktro, so i cannot speak for alpha one. By "us" i mean the groups who make cracktro for other groups.
added on the 2007-02-01 12:36:33 by iks iks
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when will people realize that if they're going for cracktros, the standard starts at hitchhikr's stuff?


yeah- start at pure perfection, damnit !^^
added on the 2007-02-01 12:40:44 by 4kum4 4kum4
Only damones can do proper scrollers
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 13:06:20 by waffle waffle
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Urh? First off, who's "us"? Secondly, wasn't this "demoscene" thing about one's own skills and improving them? Thirdly, am I missing irony here?

haha! :)
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 13:38:43 by prm prm
alpha_1 i tried it today and it seems to run normal speed :)
added on the 2007-02-01 13:54:15 by uns3en_ uns3en_
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dont worry alpha_1 .. the people who thumb this down are homos, so if you piggy this or thumb it down, it means you liked watching broke back mountain.


No Stuey, you got it wrong, everybody who thumbed it UP are homos!!

Homos!
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 14:04:51 by okkie okkie
just like your daddy!
added on the 2007-02-01 14:12:23 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
this is bad
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 14:16:17 by rmeht rmeht
Not as bad as aLpHa oNe's attitude.
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 16:08:17 by bruce bruce
/o\
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 16:12:45 by src src
hahaha, what a fucking morons
wtf is this shit?
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 16:41:08 by bhead bhead
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Not as bad as aLpHa oNe's attitude.

I don't know, we're on a level of magnification so intense that the difference is hard to distinguish.
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 16:52:44 by Shifter Shifter
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pouet is strongly not the right place for simple crackintros

Quoted for truth. Pack it up and leave.
added on the 2007-02-01 16:54:56 by Shifter Shifter
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Quoted for truth. Pack it up and leave.


omg..
added on the 2007-02-01 17:04:41 by 4kum4 4kum4
Cracktro actually DO belong here, no doubt.

Hitchhikr, StanZ, Lotek, Havoc, Stingray and I uploaded tons of oldskool (yes, the word 'oldskool' is relevant in that sentence, not in yours) cracktros those last months.

People here appreciate GOOD cracktros. Now, if you submit mediocre revamped/buggy stuff, accept their comments and disappointment.

I dig old-fashioned cakes made with good old recipes but I don't like them anymore once you let them rot in a corner of the kitchen and if you stepped in it. They kind of lose their former appeal.
added on the 2007-02-01 17:39:43 by keops keops
cool stuff!
rulez added on the 2007-02-01 19:26:55 by elkmoose elkmoose
Moah, get´s a pig for reminding me to the Skid Row thingie I watched 15 years back that often... but that´s it, I´m far away from loving so called oldskool stuff today... hmpf...
added on the 2007-02-01 20:10:14 by moondog moondog
Sorry but you can use directX for much more clever and interresting things than a 3d starfield and a sinescroller..
sucks added on the 2007-02-01 21:02:42 by nystep nystep
This cracktro would be fine and worth a thumb up on an amiga 500 though.
added on the 2007-02-01 21:05:19 by nystep nystep
dupe!
rulez added on the 2007-02-02 02:05:04 by Zest Zest
i love dupes
rulez added on the 2007-02-02 03:43:47 by bull bull
heres my old school c64 cracktro
5 poke [okkie] 53281,0
10 print"okkie's ass was cracked by stu 02/07 ;-)"
20 goto 5
run

who cares ay!, its all a bit of fun right!














added on the 2007-02-02 08:00:37 by stuey stuey
Yesterday I compared this version with original one and here are my points:

1. The scroll is faster in original,
2. The starfield is smoother in Hatred version,
3. Switching between windows provokes "Another lightspeed release" area permanent dissappering in Hatred version,
4. Fonts are too small in Hatred (both of them)
5. The SR size is 15o48 against Hatred 22752.
6. and some other small remarks.

So whaddaheck are you talking about here? Too fast blablabla... Too big... blablabla... I am surely not for overusing an "oldschool" word, as it nowadays, is by these guys who try too be more old (without good school) then they are in fact. But this production do has some oldschool spirit..

You do not like this one because, as I suppose, you wanna see crackintros which look like 64k intros. Am I right? True, they are great, but well... It's not an idea in crack intro origin. And as A1 said (if it is true ;) - it was made on his fellows ask.

Back in the days ppl code for pleasure, now if you do so, following sth already existing, the others will surely will not be content.
And for the end, check this(unavailable here) or this one. And?...
added on the 2007-02-02 14:59:26 by sim sim
The idea can be good, but I expected more originality and/or more quality, for example doing a "today-remake" of that intro, I mean the same but with effects using recent technologies and a cover of the music with better sounds, more voices, etc...

well, and to be honest, I did better than that in Javascript on www.chiptune.com...
sucks added on the 2007-02-02 15:54:43 by rez rez
lol to be honest rez, not really! but you are just one of them who doesnt understand that a conversion surely has NO better effects than the original... it shall look like the original, and if i watch this intro next to my amiga monitor with the original sr cracktro running, it looks identical!
added on the 2007-02-02 16:00:16 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
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if i watch this intro next to my amiga monitor with the original sr cracktro running, it looks identical!


Oh yes, sure, identical, once you forget about the graphical bugs and the fucked up speed. And still, even if it were, congrats for making a sinescroller using DX9 in 2007, WOW!!! The original author of this cracktro would be proud of you!

Take example of Rez's javascript, now that's GOOD stuff.
added on the 2007-02-02 16:06:19 by keops keops
aLpHa oNe: and finally, speaking of rez and oldskool, learn from that

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16327
added on the 2007-02-02 16:09:44 by keops keops
oh keops baby... it wasnt me who uploaded this production here and it was surely not coded to satisfiy you and your other friends here... i really cant stand your silly comments anymore, this was done for some people who liked it and not for you or the rest of the pouet family, got it?! this is a FUN production, nothing more, nothing less.. its not done for breaking records or anything! and if the speed is buggy 4 you, sorry... its okay for most of the other people! phew, but what do i expect when talking to a pyramid!
added on the 2007-02-02 16:22:19 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
Nice one, can't understand the bad criticism...
rulez added on the 2007-02-02 16:28:21 by dust dust
Well, I do not know what you guys want to achieve - force A1 to give up coding (or showing him how bad his routines are), to defend the honour of SR crack intro (yes the original is cool and who knows how the mix SRcrack-Lemmings game influenced on the SR reputation=), or what...
added on the 2007-02-02 16:33:52 by sim sim
btw. for the 2 people here who liked it...
http://intro-inferno.com/production.php?id=2361
consists original text, without any charbugs from drunken scrolltextwriters!
added on the 2007-02-02 16:47:07 by aLpHa oNe aLpHa oNe
aLpHa oNe: I uploaded it because I actually do like it for nostalgia reasons. What I didn't like were the glitches in the text (not your fault I know but it was released like this) and that the scroller was a bit too fast, thus I didn't give thumb up. I actually have nothing against such conversions and don't expect them to have any advanced routines in the remake. But you should at least try to understand people who don't like such things and thus give thumb down. Live and let live I'd say.
added on the 2007-02-02 18:32:19 by StingRay StingRay
word!
added on the 2007-02-02 19:02:37 by dipswitch dipswitch
another world pauns
added on the 2007-02-03 02:10:59 by gr gr
Most people don't own Amiga, many people don't have an emu, losts of people never have seen the original. So a remake that is accurate is like a history lesson in scene productions. So folks can see what went before. I for one appreciate and enjoy this type of remake and enjoy them for what they are.and admire the effort that goes into them. and remember this is for FUN Thumb for the fun and effort
rulez added on the 2007-02-03 18:49:29 by wham wham
nice stuff!
@and:

what do you expect of a conversion??? when its not identical, it´s not a conversion .. so lame ..
rulez added on the 2007-02-05 19:40:20 by NuKem NuKem
nice....

@the stress fortress pplz: jaa, schlagt euch die köpfe ein!!!!
rulez added on the 2007-02-05 19:43:50 by damager damager
- Not running under Vista
- Not running under WinXP SP2 with latest gfx card drivers (ATI card)
+ 23 kb
+ Idea

Still a piggy... ;D
added on the 2007-02-06 15:33:12 by Midfit Midfit
The text corruption was a bit uncalled for but I've seen worse - a LOT worse. Piggy for effort.
added on the 2007-02-08 01:38:15 by button button
bland
sucks added on the 2007-03-11 18:01:33 by anesthetic anesthetic
btw hetero has done a dos version of it in 1995!
http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=600
added on the 2007-08-11 17:41:35 by crusher crusher

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