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kindernoiser by Rgba [web]
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screenshot added by iq on 2007-10-14 01:52:51
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release date : october 2007
release party : bcnparty 2007
compo : combined 4k
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 75%
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alltime top: #245
  • iq iq [Code, graphics, music]
added on the 2007-10-14 01:52:51 by iq iq

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Beautiful 4D's and music :_)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 01:57:16 by stage7 stage7
pretty
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:10:48 by parcelshit parcelshit
Wow!

Run slow here but I guess that I need a new PC :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:11:12 by rbz rbz
I'm impressed. Was this realtime ambient occlusion?
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:17:46 by imbusy imbusy
nice.

http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=20972
(just wanted to mention this prod)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:24:38 by las las
Is it optimized for Intel CPU's? Runs very slowly on my fairly clean machine with a 1 year old dual core AMD CPU (3800+)
*yawn* boring paul bourke-like julia 3d fractals (or whatever routine is used) coders porn probably, but boring to watch..
Really impressive stuff! Amazing shading.
And it's got a dialog!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:48:47 by pixtur pixtur
Judging from the the samples the music could have been way better. rest is nice, thumbs up for getting it so fast.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 02:55:14 by raer raer
good 4k !
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 03:14:21 by .. ..
Very slow here but well, julia in quaternions take time to compute. Nice stuff :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 03:36:54 by keops keops
quite slow here aswell, looks like alot of math computation going on there though... weird sound, but looks great.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 03:38:23 by keito keito
really nice, but dead slow on intel q6600
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 04:05:36 by madMixx madMixx
WOW! Impressive work! I saw it at the big screen! Dammit! What a beauty! Excelent work, instantly became one of y fav prods!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 04:28:18 by AMB AMB
Good bye marching cubes, here too.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 04:54:52 by bdk bdk
great lighting & music
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 07:21:27 by p01 p01
The SSAO is a first. Nicely done, is there HDR in there too? Great work.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 09:52:26 by auld auld
Great stuff.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 09:53:54 by Cj Cj
PHAT.!

every1.: read the .nfo and better watch the video
(if your PC doesn´t have an Alien on it.! ;) )
...then vote..! (no rants about slow execution anymore,plz ;) )

After all this 4d-Stuff lately i wonder when/if the Time will come where a Brainy-Coder discovers the 5th Dimension for Mankind.! (always remember.: there are 9 Sphere´s of Reality ;) )

on the other Hand this one and Tracie by Mentor could have destroyed my ambitions to do sizecoding myself in the future.!

so,2 yearZ waiting + getting decent Hardware then until we all start getting in love with realtime-raytracing in demos.??

oh,seemZ i´m quite impressed....a lot of text there ^^^^^^^^ .!!! lol

thanx for a fast video-delivery and the 4k emself ofcoZ :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 10:08:58 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
sorry, i didn't like it
added on the 2007-10-14 10:15:45 by bfx bfx
One of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 10:16:28 by Preacher Preacher
fantastic coredpron \o/
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 10:27:28 by pohar pohar
Damn.. awesome man! keep em comming
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 10:34:26 by M:ET M:ET
Speed is totally unacceptable, I get like 1 frame very 2 seconds :(

Still it looks nice, and I like this kind of coder porn, so thumb up!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 10:49:27 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
have to agree with maali. good code but extremely boring. don't like it.
added on the 2007-10-14 11:14:11 by StingRay StingRay
Interesting idea/complex code/music suck.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 11:26:03 by #535 #535
Quaternion orgy! Excellent.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 11:40:36 by ham ham
so you managed to get ssao out in a demo before i did :) great work all round.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 12:20:54 by smash smash
seriously, what preacher said.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 12:34:57 by rmeht rmeht
+ Great fractals
+ Realtime ambient occlusion
+ Config dialog
+ Nice palette
~ Soundtrack

All this makes this prod the the best 4k i have ever seen :) Congratulations!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 12:52:03 by merlucin merlucin
Nice shapes, and that's pretty much it..
added on the 2007-10-14 13:11:41 by evil evil
mousse au caramel :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 13:18:23 by monroe monroe
looks great, runs slow and sounds noisy ;-)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 13:23:02 by Bobic Bobic
fantastic!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 13:26:17 by cynic cynic
Kudos for SSAO :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 13:54:23 by shash shash
dead slow on my computer, but the video looks grrrr8! music had a cool mood too even if it isn't really a chart topper tune.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 13:57:30 by loaderror loaderror
coredpron
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 14:07:29 by Murphy Murphy
frickin awesome
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 14:10:26 by zoom zoom
superb!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 14:14:56 by substrate substrate
perfect
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 14:54:56 by lemoniac lemoniac
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 15:18:25 by texel texel
lovely 4d julia.... great shading
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 17:46:44 by wie8 wie8
Very impressive... great work!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 18:00:52 by Stebo Stebo
wow! you did it. the ambient occlusion looked really nice.. just what was needed to make the julias look excelent
rulezcdc added on the 2007-10-14 18:09:00 by Duckers Duckers
nice stuff.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 18:19:46 by src src
OMG
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 20:50:44 by Darkman007/quite Darkman007/quite
nice camera movement and animation. also thumbs up for ssao.
music was a bit strange and the framerate ...

anyway good stuff :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 20:51:36 by gopher gopher
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:03:25 by chenmy! chenmy!
screen-space ambient occlusion - i always wanted to try that ;)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:12:05 by Gargaj Gargaj
The aliasing is horrible, but otherwise this is THE SHIT!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:14:19 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
Great.
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:33:18 by Pirx Pirx
Cool!
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:34:38 by bitl bitl
O_p--b
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 21:34:46 by aha aha
The demo is coded well for sure, I really appreciate it, but I don't like the concept at all.. So only piggy here.
congratulations
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 22:56:57 by isaac2^db isaac2^db
finally a rgba 4k worth rewatching!! about time!! great stuff! :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 23:05:17 by psenough psenough
almost perfect :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 23:26:10 by bp bp
teh massive
total pr0n :D
rulez added on the 2007-10-14 23:30:03 by EviL EviL
d0pe.
impressive!
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 01:24:01 by sparcus sparcus
What a great unexpected good feedback for such a codepr0n thingie - I'm confused :) Whatever, some notes:

.imbusy, it's realtime ao yes
.graga+, it's pure gpu implementation
.maali, I googled for that "Brouke" guy; it seems to be an average fractal hobbist... why do you think he invented the 3d julias or anything? The guy you search for is called Sandin (worked back in the 80s...)
.las, I didn't know that one, I'll change the nfo file
.auld, yes, changed everything to GL_RGBA16F and used 3.0 or something for the sun.
added on the 2007-10-15 01:52:27 by iq iq
It's superb!
Great work!
But I only could view the video, could it be that mine Geforce FX 5200 is too bad for this nice worK?
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 02:17:55 by PMedia PMedia
Weird kool stuff.....but the music/sound makes it kinda booring for me.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 02:19:48 by tFt tFt
nice to see 4d julias done realtime.. the soundtrack however left much to be desired.. still a thumb in the upwards direction :)
added on the 2007-10-15 02:24:22 by mind mind
nice 4d julia fractal.
and kool some color scheme and kool stuff.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 06:01:35 by got got
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 07:12:34 by zeebr zeebr
very cool, but verrrry slow on my machine :P
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 07:14:52 by blackpawn blackpawn
normally i am a big RGBA fan, but i dont get into this production and the sound is only a big mess this time
added on the 2007-10-15 08:57:54 by RA RA
definetly highend coderp0rn! (although it's still too slow for 90% of the machines out there)
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 09:21:00 by toxie toxie
had the same stuff done last year (ofcourse shading and so on was different), but decided not to release due to slow gfx cards.. sadly this isnt any faster.. but for the effort..
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 09:54:29 by mad mad
Runs (almost) smooth on my GeForce8600gt and I must say it looks really amazing!
I don't understand why this is considered coderpron since it looks so damn nice, and I think that I would even thinks so even if I wasn't a coder :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 10:29:30 by ekoli ekoli
This entry alone made it worth to attend BCNparty this year... I love it!
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 10:40:35 by Spock Spock
Oh my god, I loved it.
The tune kicks ass so much it made me come back to it.
impressive amazing work.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 13:47:30 by xphere xphere
Great stuff. Nice piece of music also very fitting to the omnibus fractals.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 13:52:40 by d3pth d3pth
Nice! Not really synced but who cares.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 14:55:06 by cerror cerror
Nice. Whereas TBC's Tracie made me long for chocolate milk, this gives me a strange craving for glue and/or silicone. Made me nibble on the stuff that keeps my office window in place. Cool "music" too. Especially after eating glue and/or silicone.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 15:01:30 by Archmage Archmage
Far out, Archmage :-)

But so is this 4k.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 15:18:43 by Steel Steel
Great.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 15:46:15 by Buckethead Buckethead
This makes the fractal-intro that I'm working on right now look really shabby. Three thumbs up for that.
Damnit. That's really impressive.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 18:02:17 by chock chock
fuck you, this ruled.
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 18:13:14 by kusma kusma
the beauty of math
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 18:43:13 by Virgill Virgill
added on the 2007-10-15 19:36:57 by Mystra Mystra
very nice tweak, master ;)
Next goal is real time real ambient occlusion :P
rulez added on the 2007-10-15 22:08:59 by drpain drpain
impressive as ever :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 00:44:03 by ShOtGaN ShOtGaN
pr0n :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 01:27:00 by slack slack
music and 3D graphics
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 02:05:51 by BITS BITS
Lol, what solO2 said.

Anyway I love this.
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 09:26:01 by Shockwave Shockwave
as always, Rgba rocks...

nork
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 09:42:53 by nork nork
good
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 10:03:09 by Manwe Manwe
rulez!
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 10:59:04 by pantaloon pantaloon
ca frack ass
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 11:10:57 by u2 u2
great job! Excellent parameters for the fractals! Even if I try hard to choose a decent parameter set I always get sth boring. This isn't at all :).
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 17:56:54 by bonzaj bonzaj
nice
added on the 2007-10-16 19:51:03 by dairos dairos
thumbs up of course
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 19:51:39 by dairos dairos
Coderporn! Yay.
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 19:58:17 by Moerder Moerder
highly plastic clay body
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 20:11:55 by gentleman gentleman
nah
sucks added on the 2007-10-16 20:24:16 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
neat, but the music (sounds) pulls it down
added on the 2007-10-16 20:54:02 by dwarf dwarf
freakin' amazing. My hat goes off to you.
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 22:23:19 by Axel Axel
Great.
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 23:00:07 by Anat Anat
i have no idea how this runs on hardware, but i suppose in few years it'll be equal to the video!
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 23:19:34 by jmagic jmagic
up for the visuals. 25fps anyone?:>
rulez added on the 2007-10-16 23:45:58 by comankh comankh
nice and clean!
rulez added on the 2007-10-17 15:29:17 by quisten quisten
kkkk
rulez added on the 2007-10-17 22:06:58 by 4kum4 4kum4
++++++++++++++++ and way more +++++++

not to forget the face of that representative when the intro was played in the big screen - "is this alright? does it work properly?"

awesomeness!
Holy fucking hell.
rulez added on the 2007-10-17 23:19:24 by iks iks
Well, ok for 4k it's a thumb but 0g coco-milk isn't really that interesting.
rulez added on the 2007-10-18 10:44:11 by El Topo El Topo
w00t! great code, colors, gfx. music sucks
rulez added on the 2007-10-18 16:56:55 by bartman bartman
Yikes!
rulez added on the 2007-10-18 22:46:54 by dixan dixan
infuckingsane, great job iq!
rulez added on the 2007-10-19 00:39:53 by zomb zomb
pushing the limits, once again!
rulez added on the 2007-10-19 12:58:29 by Zest Zest
Man, I had to use 640x480 for this on my system. :( It looks decent. Optimzations would be nice.
added on the 2007-10-20 23:06:09 by AntDude AntDude
Realtime version of the much-fun Chaoscope :) Great stuff
rulez added on the 2007-10-21 08:03:49 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Lol @ant complaining about cool small productions again... Upgrade your compute rand get a clue already.
added on the 2007-10-21 09:40:35 by Shockwave Shockwave
rulez added on the 2007-10-21 22:00:52 by prm prm
Quote:
Optimzations would be nice

eeeeeehhhhhh??????????
...
okkie knows the answer :)
added on the 2007-10-21 22:21:36 by bdk bdk
yeah!
rulez added on the 2007-10-21 23:49:25 by Happy-H Happy-H
wow! haven't seen such fractals since i used Kais Power Tools..
rulez added on the 2007-10-22 11:38:27 by medron medron
this is wonderful!
rulez added on the 2007-10-22 13:28:59 by gloom gloom
I wondered when somebody would use SM3.0 to do this in realtime. Very nice.
rulez added on the 2007-10-23 02:25:42 by pdx pdx
yay!
rulez added on the 2007-10-23 03:21:40 by ryg ryg
Nice effect, but WAY to slow on my machine...
added on the 2007-10-23 06:49:56 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
ambient occult
rulez added on the 2007-10-23 07:07:05 by waffle waffle
OMG. Superb prod!
rulez added on the 2007-10-23 14:45:15 by JosSs JosSs
wow, dies for me on vista:
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added on the 2007-10-23 21:06:26 by dila dila
hm.. I tested this morning and it works ok on vista.... so might it be you don't have pixel shaders 3.0? Then it goes into software rendering, the framerate is like on frame every 60 seconds, windows detects ther is no refresh on the screen for a long time and resets the driver. What graphics card do you have?
added on the 2007-10-24 12:37:00 by iq iq
iq you sick bastard :D
rulez added on the 2007-10-24 13:25:12 by BoyC BoyC
what boyc said.
rulez added on the 2007-10-24 16:29:01 by kb_ kb_
Instant thumb up! :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-25 20:27:26 by Lazarus Lazarus
i have a gt7900 learn how to optimize code before releasing ..... thx
sucks added on the 2007-10-25 21:30:48 by vOUCk vOUCk
thump up for the 4k demo itself just because was it runs too slow on my gf card maximum 10 frames at 640x480 on my gt 7900 with latest nvidia drivers and overclocking. great effects but poor performance but cool effect
added on the 2007-10-25 21:45:22 by vOUCk vOUCk
haha, poor performance - good one :)
added on the 2007-10-25 22:06:26 by iq iq
nice, but extremly slow... found good 3d julia [url=http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=4563]here#/url], at a real fps.
sucks added on the 2007-10-26 11:17:51 by spengler spengler
ok have seen it on propper gfx card.. and sure it does rock.. the ambient occlusion (zbuffer one?) looks nice and sound is ok.. nice parameters.
added on the 2007-10-26 18:51:15 by mad mad
ps 2 version, anyone? ;)
rulez added on the 2007-10-27 08:30:43 by moredhel moredhel
Oh

smash involved with this? Because this one is sloow.
added on the 2007-10-27 08:32:51 by moredhel moredhel
moredhel: you'r teh funnay. Show what you've got before bitching about speed. KTHX.
added on the 2007-10-27 12:14:46 by p01 p01
already seen it - this one ripped of from codes that are available for three years!!

http://graphics.cs.uiuc.edu/svn/kcrane/web/project_qjulia.html
http://graphics.cs.uiuc.edu/svn/kcrane/web/project_qjulia_source.html

(origional looks better even, imho)
sucks added on the 2007-10-27 20:04:58 by parkhabit parkhabit
moredhel: there is a ps.2 veersion on that page i just linked
added on the 2007-10-27 20:17:05 by parkhabit parkhabit
Huuu. NICE!!!
rulez added on the 2007-10-27 23:56:55 by wiseman wiseman
even fake accounts created just to thumb down a product really ought to try reading the info file before posting...
added on the 2007-10-28 00:46:26 by auld auld
I can't really judge how good the code is, but it do know that it looks utterly wonderful :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-28 13:02:27 by Blockbuster Blockbuster
nice and smooth here :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-29 19:21:10 by anesthetic anesthetic
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 14:09:57 by seρρjο seρρjο
how smart parkhabit ... so take this source code, and do it in 4k with sound
kthxbye
in case "parkhabit" is a fake user and his account is deleted in the future, or in case he renames himself:

i just want to clarify that i'm taking kindernoiser's defense with my last comment (or at least i tried to since there was a misunderstanding)

cheers
Kinder Egg next?
added on the 2007-11-01 10:43:44 by Steel Steel
Wow, now that's something.
So I can ultimately skip my plans for implementing a 4D fractal
rulez added on the 2007-11-01 18:39:50 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
nice but not perfect
added on the 2007-11-02 17:25:28 by lindewest lindewest
These shapes have me completely hypnotized...
rulez added on the 2007-11-03 17:43:22 by Blueberry Blueberry
nice fx ... cool stuff ... and - damn - it's 4k :)

although it's a bit slow on my machine ... anyway ^^
rulez added on the 2007-11-04 09:03:08 by slippy slippy
Yes, although if it's 4k... not my cup of tea.
sucks added on the 2007-11-05 11:05:44 by hashdash hashdash
this demo will work in two years according to .nfo so i'll vote in two years :)
added on the 2007-11-07 21:23:25 by faraday faraday
looks absolutely lovely. good job!!!

one thing, "The SSAO is a first.", not quite:
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=32229
rulez added on the 2007-11-08 18:27:40 by reptile reptile
nice
rulez added on the 2007-11-11 05:02:43 by mg mg
Looked pretty, but felt like watching a slide show. I think I need a faster system!
added on the 2007-11-12 11:35:49 by s_tec s_tec
ok,

[x] Realtime Quaternion Jula fractal

Checked, what is next?
rulez added on the 2007-11-12 22:21:28 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
Now we're talking! Seriously impressive work.
rulez added on the 2007-11-21 13:32:58 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Depressing.
rulez added on the 2007-11-27 14:10:57 by Nezbie Nezbie
Ownage.
rulez added on the 2007-12-11 00:10:18 by jimmi jimmi
Cute.
rulez added on the 2007-12-16 12:48:08 by aick aick
beautifull
rulez added on the 2007-12-16 12:50:51 by Gluk Gluk
Porn.
rulez added on the 2007-12-16 13:18:04 by nitro2k01 nitro2k01
Didn't know that there's a sequel to the "Gantz Graf"-Video... ;) Really cool.
rulez added on the 2008-01-11 12:26:49 by maw maw
thumb for size an effects even tho it was damn slow on =\...
rulez added on the 2008-02-17 21:25:05 by panic panic
wow, how excellent is this!
rulez added on the 2008-02-23 12:16:01 by dipswitch dipswitch
Very beautiful.
rulez added on the 2008-03-01 20:33:27 by Claw Claw
Now that is fucking INSANE for 4 kb!
rulez added on the 2008-03-10 11:45:14 by The_Grandmother The_Grandmother
!!!
rulez added on the 2008-03-19 23:59:59 by Mystra Mystra
iq: yeh, a shit one ;)
added on the 2008-03-23 21:26:42 by dila dila
RGBA's quality! Mmmm.... I'm lovin' it =)
rulez added on the 2008-03-26 20:43:20 by Ized Ized
What they all said.
rulez added on the 2008-04-01 23:00:44 by xernobyl xernobyl
Nice and silky rendering. And an interresting soundtrack too.
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 16:51:38 by untel untel
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 17:13:18 by zefyros zefyros
rulez added on the 2008-05-14 22:03:15 by Alpha C Alpha C
Cool even in 640x480.
rulez added on the 2008-05-16 02:22:10 by [HamsTeR] [HamsTeR]
woooooot
rulez added on the 2008-06-08 14:51:07 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
Aesthetically pleasing.
rulez added on the 2008-08-08 08:10:59 by eye eye
Amazing!
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:36:39 by bladerunner bladerunner
Nice
rulez added on the 2008-11-24 23:33:45 by T$ T$
phat
rulez added on the 2009-03-17 11:54:39 by SiR SiR
heavy
rulez added on the 2009-04-30 18:14:51 by unc unc
Finally I can watch this one in its full glory (nearly) :)
added on the 2009-08-07 17:25:24 by bdk bdk
very nice.
rulez added on the 2009-09-12 00:10:19 by pommak pommak
oh, no comment on this yet? absolutely wonderful!
rulez added on the 2009-09-13 20:02:23 by rudi rudi
i want this on my toast
rulez added on the 2009-09-13 20:17:21 by relias abardon relias abardon
cup of my tea
rulez added on the 2009-09-13 20:37:05 by noby noby
i'm totally speechless.
rulez added on the 2010-01-07 23:53:10 by Vedem Vedem
great :)
rulez added on the 2010-01-08 00:19:46 by leGend leGend
Won't run on my Win7/8800GT
Oh well I loved this one when it came out !!!
rulez added on the 2010-06-27 14:57:32 by cxnull cxnull
mb funny, but THEY CAN DO MUCH BETTER
added on the 2010-07-30 22:46:10 by closed closed
damn I never thumbed this up? This one's mandatory on my rulez list.
rulez added on the 2010-10-22 14:51:27 by Paralax Paralax
wont run in win7-64, ati hd 6550. fails loading a gl extension to me
added on the 2011-02-26 13:11:13 by rmeht rmeht
As usual, great 4k!
Highres Youtube (watch in "original" size setting):
Youtube (HD)
rulez added on the 2011-07-27 17:19:47 by anni anni
mistifying
rulez added on the 2012-06-13 15:14:47 by seism seism
Beautiful
rulez added on the 2013-08-02 12:05:53 by stijn stijn
Sick!
rulez added on the 2015-10-08 16:49:16 by moozooh moozooh
Nice little 4k, even if the formula is stolen from a professor in the US :D

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