NedoDemo 2 by alone coder & Mayhem & HOOY-PROGRAM [web]
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release date : january 2014
release party : DiHalt Lite 2014
compo : zx demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 64%
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alltime top: #4974
added on the 2014-01-06 12:55:10 by lvd lvd

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Seems pretty cool, but I can't really properly judge it as I have no idea how the Evolution compares to things like the 128 or pentagon.
added on the 2014-01-06 16:01:31 by ___ ___
for the lovely tune!
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 16:30:04 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
IIRC i've seen better code by Alone Coder (?), but it's a nice demo nonetheless.
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 18:57:18 by baah baah
.nice one
added on the 2014-01-06 19:42:13 by kempy kempy
only 3 old effects (
atm != spectrum
and this "demo" work slowly on atm - it's zx-evo demo...
sucks added on the 2014-01-06 20:16:10 by psndcj//tbk psndcj//tbk
Like it ;)
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 21:14:46 by bitl bitl
Cool demo.
The cat pic = Ah ah ah

Nice tune btw.
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 21:54:39 by BackSpace BackSpace
Was nice! Great gfx, nice music and few fx.
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 22:34:44 by Optimus Optimus
great attitude!
rulez added on the 2014-01-06 22:42:24 by gentleman gentleman
I don't know enough about the effects, but a lot of the graphics was nice and the chiptune catchy.
rulez added on the 2014-01-07 00:29:47 by Preacher Preacher
how they do them good graphics?! looks cool
rulez added on the 2014-01-07 03:12:08 by tonyrocks tonyrocks
creeppy slideshow from stolen gfx:
sucks added on the 2014-01-07 03:36:42 by n/a n/a
Jokov is a friend of Yerzmyey's and he gave us this gfx, you anonymous liar.
read again your messages:
and piss fuck off you, liar
added on the 2014-01-07 09:45:57 by n/a n/a
Apart from the fact the pointless rudeness, the pictures are original of course, as Jokov is actually the very same guy who participated in the demo, hahahaha.
Also Joulo of H-PRG (ex. Habib) was kind enough to spare one of his pictures (that is also available on the Net, in several versions btw).

PS: As usual not thumb from me, to avoid a self-voting (in a way).
Nice effects, very nice gfx, awesome track by Yerz. I love this style.
rulez added on the 2014-01-07 10:09:24 by visy visy
Nice cheery prod.
Time to make a "Spectrum On Steroids" platform category on pouet.
rulez added on the 2014-01-07 14:08:50 by tFt tFt
Every time i've got ban i'm going mad.Redo.
sucks added on the 2014-01-07 17:09:48 by BulbaII BulbaII
tFt, this runs on any ATM Turbo 2+ compatible Spectrum (ATM 7.10, Pentevo/ZX Evolution, Pentagon 2.666) and on mainstream ZX Spectrum emulators (Unreal Spectrum, Xpeccy, ZXMAK2), no custom hardware needed.
Sneaky cdc for the prod that you are credited in? This must be a new low :)
added on the 2014-01-07 21:17:49 by introspec introspec
O.o That's odd.
lvd, why you added this cdc?
@Alone_Coder: Did Sinclair Research Ltd released such models?
(ATM 7.10, Pentevo/ZX Evolution, Pentagon 2.666)

rulez added on the 2014-01-07 22:36:05 by comankh comankh
(ok prod though)
added on the 2014-01-07 22:45:56 by comankh comankh

did IBM released your PC?

added on the 2014-01-08 00:27:59 by abscess abscess
not sure if tro... your problem bro, it is not a speccy demo (doesn't run on mine), we definitely need 'zx enhanced' category.
added on the 2014-01-08 01:26:59 by comankh comankh
ah. yes. by all means it needs.

and still it is a speccy demo.

also, it's definitely not my problem.
added on the 2014-01-08 09:14:04 by abscess abscess
Seen other demos by Alone Coder. This one is definitely weaker than The Board II and does not deserve its' gold.

I yawned.
sucks added on the 2014-01-08 12:59:24 by B-Man No. 23 B-Man No. 23
everytime I got a ban, i'm going mad.
sucks added on the 2014-01-08 13:45:46 by BulbaJr BulbaJr
Also, only a madman can call his prod "Nedodemo", which is the Russian for "Notquitedemo".
rulez added on the 2014-01-08 14:25:34 by abscess abscess
Always the same russian roulette going on with speccy demos :D Nice prod.
rulez added on the 2014-01-08 15:39:01 by Serpent Serpent
Normal demo.
When I saw Yerzmyey in the credits, I thought something like "On fuck, another Yerzmyey's italo tune with crazy hw envelopes." ... And I was right! :))) Good demo.
rulez added on the 2014-01-08 19:08:56 by aki aki
Small update for 7 MHz users (now with better sync). Url is the same.
Not excellent. But good enough prod. Author can do better. And i hope he will amaze us next time.
Alone keep coding.
rulez added on the 2014-01-08 22:11:15 by alffcpu alffcpu
good enough
rulez added on the 2014-01-09 06:49:53 by SiR SiR
very nice all round, love the cat pic, and the music is nice as are the effects, top work :)
rulez added on the 2014-01-10 14:41:34 by keito keito
nice prod - gfx is not stolen btw.
rulez added on the 2014-01-10 16:22:01 by jok jok
remove this shit
sucks added on the 2014-01-12 14:49:43 by albub albub
remove this shit
sucks added on the 2014-01-12 15:21:53 by albuB albuB
@goblinish, what is the purpose of thumbing down 6 times from different accounts? Make it once and say what you don't like.
@goblinish, what is the purpose of thumbing down 6 times from different accounts? Make it once and say what you don't like.

AloneCoder, why you are lying? Do you have proof/IPs?something else?

how can I you make it once?
A lot of people said you and you boyfriend,LVD, took THREE votelists, vote for this prod and down-vote for the other demos.
You screwed up showing my 1K intro - keftale ZX, but 1K intros for the ATM was shown at the Di:Halt party and won prizes. nowaday you pussy)))

And last - you let everything what help your crapodemo2 to won.

It's a shame to be like you. grab sux, lamer.

1st time I broke my principle - never visit pouet.net, but I am tired of a couple of BS what people said.
more that - I am not willing to make demos for the Russian demoparty.
sucks added on the 2014-01-13 10:44:06 by g0blinish g0blinish
#1: LVD is not my boyfriend.
#2: I didn't vote for NedoDemo 2.
#3: Your 1K intro was shown.

Bulba and its variations is your regular nickname, this is possible to track if we compare logs of recent attacks on SpeccyWiki with logs or your IRC channel at the same time.
Hey! Make demos, not war.
Nedodemo is nice demo for ATM2.
Heart megademo is megademo (but not nice) for pentagon.
Make demos for ATM2 and will be peace. Now is few demos for this computer, but when it was more, will nominations: ATM demos and ZX(or Pentagon) demos.
Let's code! And draw pictures. And make music.
1. Yes, sure
2. You gave votesheet to LVD, so online-voting differs from teg results
3. You spent 4 hours behind kompo-computer and made everything that work for ts-conf wasn't shown. it is obvious because your hate an alter configuration.

Now you say "demo isn't for the Spectrum":

your previous works not for the ZX Spectrum too.

Sergey Bulba is an author of the AY-Emul, I not so impudent as LVD to hide under other nickname.

Well, you don't have proщf, better STFU or I'll ask mods to calm your tits as a lier and provoker.

for all who doesn't have popcorn:
AlCo sucked in the poll "Top of the Spectrumist 2013", so he wants to shame me. nice butthurt, eh?
added on the 2014-01-13 14:03:10 by g0blinish g0blinish
2. I voted myself.
3. ts-conf didn't work in compo machine.
4. ATM Turbo 2 is a ZX Spectrum clone from 1993 supported in a lot of TR-DOS software, including regular commanders. New custom hardware "ts-conf" that you made your intro for - isn't.
5. I mean Bulbas like this.
Алёна ты такой дурачок, что стыдно читать твои посты m(
added on the 2014-01-13 14:33:52 by g0blinish g0blinish
Kakos_nonos, I seriously don't know what your tastes in demomaking are, but I heard you didn't like Heart Megademo because it has too much blood. If you don't consider it nice, dissing it over three not brilliantly executed effects, all I can say is that...

B-Man No. 23, yes, i don't like blood demos. I don't like drugs demos, and some types other. And what? Do you like AER demos or John Norton Irr music? no? weakling.
I like AER demos, but I still think that John Norton Irr's music, as well as his pictures, can't really be done without having to do some really heavy drugs.
The demo was finally fixed for perfect sync at 7 MHz (99K t-states) for ATM 7.10 users. Should work well at 28 MHz (Pentagon 2.666) too. The url is still the same.
Save ZX from steroids!
added on the 2014-01-20 11:12:51 by g0blinish g0blinish
Excellent music, nice graphics and not too bad effects.
rulez added on the 2014-01-20 17:32:12 by StingRay StingRay
Bright and colorful, but that doesn't make it look less boring. Awww. :c
rulez added on the 2014-01-30 13:59:55 by n1k-o n1k-o
nice :)
rulez added on the 2014-01-31 22:23:00 by crayon crayon
@g0blinish: what steroids? I don't use hardware sprites or second CPU to change effects unlike you.
added on the 2014-02-03 08:43:56 by g0blinish g0blinish
the drama continues..
and.. get a life.
added on the 2014-02-03 08:52:49 by lsl lsl
no idea about the hardware, the demo itself was pretty ok. thumb up for platform.
rulez added on the 2014-02-07 02:33:13 by psenough psenough
source as always.
psenough, just to letcha know - this demo will run smoothly only on ZX Evolution, but not ATM Turbo 2 which is basically the billed platform for NedoDemo 2.
nothing to watch here at all.
sucks added on the 2014-02-09 15:25:35 by sq sq
and yes, yet again.
this is not a spectrum.
added on the 2014-02-09 15:25:50 by sq sq
Sweet music and graphics from Polish dudes.
But apx. one and a half effects from The Only Coder.
Not a fail, but apparently not a win.
added on the 2014-02-14 12:41:33 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
Quite nice to watch.

BTW, I agree this should be a "ZX enhanced" category, mixing these with oldschool ZX/ZX+/128 feels weird to me.

@AloneCoder: that tunnel... did you got inspiration from our Yes/7Gods, or did you got the idea on your own? :)
rulez added on the 2014-03-07 23:35:13 by Ped Ped
Yes exactly. I spotted the tunnel in Yes and wondered why nobody used this effect for a long time (is it from Amiga OCS originally?). I thought about different methods to colorize it and it has finally found its place in NedoDemo 2.
For the subdivision of ZX Spectrum prods look this thread.
stupid thief! you stole idea m(
added on the 2014-03-08 12:19:07 by g0blinish g0blinish
Shouldda filed a patent.
added on the 2014-03-08 12:35:50 by Gargaj Gargaj
блин, надоело уже. каждый раз, когда выходит новая демо на спектруме, тут начинается дикий срач. вы что, совсем охренели, что-ли? g0blinish, серьезно, ты всех уже заколебал. может хватит уже, а? никому тут до твоих разборок нет дел.
added on the 2014-03-08 13:16:12 by dipswitch dipswitch
dipswitch, отучаемся говорить за весь Интернет. этот мудак уже засрал своими тупыми каментами все мои демы. Попаболь у дурачка, что уж поделаешь..
added on the 2014-03-08 14:29:03 by g0blinish g0blinish
я говорю не за весь интернет, а за администрацию pouet.net и scene.org, членом которой я являюсь. и на этом прекращаю дискуссию, что и остальным советую.
added on the 2014-03-08 15:44:25 by dipswitch dipswitch
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added on the 2014-03-08 16:02:36 by mog mog
Дискуссию вести не будешь, но сюда заглянешь. AloneCoder во всем виноват, потому что пишет идиотские комментарии.
added on the 2014-03-08 16:30:29 by g0blinish g0blinish
heh, dipswitch speaks russian :-D
prod is nice, but atm-only demos can't be compared with 128k/pentagon prods, so only a piggie
to others: упырьте мел, пожалуйста, рупор головного мозга неисправим
added on the 2014-03-08 18:23:35 by wbcbz7 wbcbz7
@AloneCoder: I have seen many different tunnels in other demos for sure back then, but the actual idea originated while I was brainstorming what kind of full pixel effects I can "push" on screen in 50FPS with the single-slightly-modified-line like in copper bars, etc... If I would start from "tunnel" side idea, I would be probably stuck to round/twisted/dotted ones, which were more common, and difficult to achieve at ZX48 (! no double buffering needed for this one when done properly) in 50FPS.

The final demo contains a bit retarded LDI version (not sure if 25FPS or smaller resolution in 50FPS) because the PC emulators at that time were already used a lot to replay ZX demos and they had serious problems with pusp/pop vs interrupt timing emulation occasionally resulting in corrupted screen or crash under emulator.

Pity I'm too lazy now to actually code something, I still have ideas for technically impressive things in my head (although the laziness is bigger problem, the minor problem is the 3.5MHz is not that much, and most of the on-the-technical-edge stuff doesn't look good to people who don't understand the challenge, so those ideas are not *that* great :(, because the best ideas must also look good :) )

Good luck in your effort and have a nice time while coding.
added on the 2014-03-08 22:32:55 by Ped Ped
The final demo contains a bit retarded LDI version

because sucked ATM2 doesn't have DMA, xexexe..
added on the 2014-03-09 06:04:18 by g0blinish g0blinish
goblinish: ?? I don't even know what is ATM2 and I don't care.

The Spectrum (genuine 48 and 128 models) never had DMA at all, and with 3.5MHz CPU and 6912B of graphic buffer you were sort of glad if you managed just to clear the screen at 50fps, I'm not even mentioning some pixel drawing... That's how the Speccy rolls.

The new Pentagon/etc machines are something different, actually even old Speccy with Busy's MB-02 disk system connected (does contain DMA chip) can do remarkably different tricks, but if you need more HW power, why not PC? I prefer ZX to be ZX, nothing more.
added on the 2014-03-12 01:57:52 by Ped Ped
rulez added on the 2014-03-12 05:28:33 by kyv kyv
a question: how can we code stuff for this zx-evolution unique screen mode? how can we access and poke in it? (i/o ports and poking areas)
rulez added on the 2014-03-12 18:57:01 by nitrofurano nitrofurano
will this ZX on stereoids ever stop? (and putting it in a ZX-democompo..)
sucks added on the 2014-03-12 19:38:29 by lsl lsl
@nitrofurano, this demo doesn't use any ZX Evolution unique screen mode. It uses screen modes of ATM Turbo 2, also supported in ZX Evolution and Pentagon 2.666. The docs are here.

@lsl, ZX Spectrum compo organizers knew the situation better when they allowed Pentagon 1024s and ATMs in 2008. As for my opinion, this decision recovered the ZX Spectrum scene that was dying then (see number of releases per year).
The Spectrum (genuine 48 and 128 models) never had DMA at all, and with 3.5MHz CPU and 6912B of graphic buffer you were sort of glad if you managed just to clear the screen at 50fps

We have it so much harder on CPC with 16k vram. With PUSH you can clean/fill about 10k in 50hz but no more. At least in Speccy you can do it fullscreen and still have few time left.
added on the 2014-03-13 09:14:59 by Optimus Optimus
@lsl, ZX Spectrum compo organizers knew the situation better when they allowed Pentagon 1024s and ATMs in 2008. As for my opinion, this decision recovered the ZX Spectrum scene that was dying then (see number of releases per year).

yes, scene is dying because you too chasing for the glory, there are some withness who said lvd has two votelists and downvoted for the prods. As result shitty slideshow Nedodemo2 took 1st place and some coders doesn't want to compete with you, gravediggers.
About releases:
I think enough vs. you lame "releases" for the ATM(!spectrum)
added on the 2014-03-13 12:22:48 by g0blinish g0blinish
Go spamming your crapmos elsewhere. This portal is about art. And this is ZX Spectrum category, not "ts-conf" category special for you.
Gosh.... just few word, dudes.
Ppl, is it making you happy arguing like this? Why the heck ONE DEMANDS from another person to code exactly like HE WANTS it to be coded? And on THAT and THAT hardware/specification and NOT that one?
Where is freedom or/and free will?
Next time put it into WILD cathegory and problem fixed...
Be well.
added on the 2014-03-13 12:48:17 by sim sim
Go spamming your crapmos elsewhere.

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wery predicatable from you - ignore obvious facts and yell "Scene dying!"

about ATM and ts-conf: let me remember - you and lvd asked me write 1K intro, but nobody bothered to help with shitty ATM architecture.
about TS-conf - i got a lot of examples and help, now i know some tricks for demoeffects creating.
So, ny choise is TS-conf, not haughty bastards from #mhm.
added on the 2014-03-13 13:03:02 by g0blinish g0blinish
Hey @alone! I guess compo organizers were far from the scene, they simply took a machine which was able to work, which SOMEBODY bring to the party. and they simply say: ok guys, do what you want for this compo-machine (not for our old "demo-standart" - pent 128). they are simply doesn't care about anything! and you just turned this fact for youself, and telling us the nice stories that they "knew the situation better"... lol:)

This portal is about art. And this is ZX Spectrum category, not "ts-conf" category special for you.
lol:) ATM is NOT a spectrum also:) nobody except you tell that ts-conf is a spectrum. forgot about ts-conf! we see that you cannot eat when somebody talks about ts-conf:)

just put your works to wild or zx-on-steroids category.
added on the 2014-03-13 13:23:17 by psb psb
I guess compo organizers were far from the scene, they simply took a machine which was able to work,

more than, compo-machine has broken General Sound..
huge thanks to lolone_coder who did everything for showing my demo.
added on the 2014-03-13 13:27:47 by g0blinish g0blinish
BTW 18 apr 2013 and 29 may 2013 lvd also helped you fixing bugs in your effects.

hey, Snowden, LVD was so stupid, he wasn't able to help me with 3D issues and routines.

Who are you after what?
"now you showed us who you are"(c) :)

grab deserved, stupid lamer:
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added on the 2014-03-13 13:32:20 by g0blinish g0blinish
Chill the fuck out already.
added on the 2014-03-13 13:41:27 by Gargaj Gargaj
@psb, to understand how ATM Turbo is related to ZX Spectrum scene, you can read the press, for example:

Spectrum compatible computers: Pentagon, ATM-Turbo, Scorpion (Adventurer #4, 1996) - ATM Turbo is in the list
Counting the brains (ZX Format #5, 1996) - ATM Turbo is in the list
Resident routine from CompoWellcome Co. Ltd. (Wallpaper #4, 1998) - how ATM Turbo resident was ported to Pentagon (512K or more) and Profi
New utilities overview (Adventurer #9, 1999) - ATM Turbo extra memory mentioned twice
ATM-TURBO 2+ overview (Inferno #2, 2001) - handling ATM Turbo extra memory etc
Russian language resources about ZX Spectrum (My Speccy #1, 2004) - ATM Turbo resource is in the list
You are so ravaging and BLIND about your proper reasons here, that you hardly see other ppl trying to tell you: please CALM DOWN and SHUT your mouth!
added on the 2014-03-13 14:26:18 by sim sim
I am wondering when this will end. I am out of popcorn.
added on the 2014-03-13 14:29:14 by Optimus Optimus
the following user said "Thank you!"for teh post to pouetians: sim,Optimus:

added on the 2014-03-13 14:38:49 by g0blinish g0blinish
added on the 2014-03-13 14:39:32 by alk alk
Nice demo!
rulez added on the 2014-03-13 14:49:25 by fizzer fizzer
@alone, nobody need neither your press nor your "proofs".

added on the 2014-03-13 15:14:46 by psb psb
cute demo!
rulez added on the 2014-03-16 09:32:03 by neoman neoman
Where is Spectrum version? Add it or remove the tag.
sucks added on the 2015-01-03 21:41:54 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
This TRD is for Spectrum. Use any mainstream Russian emulator.
Stop, stop. I've got a real ZX in my house, it is 128k, has AY and it shows me fico instead of your demo. What am I doing wrong?
added on the 2015-01-03 22:00:35 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
Read the requirements of this demo.
What about Sam Coupe? Is it also ZX? Can it run this demo?
added on the 2015-01-03 22:09:09 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
You can't run an Atari 800 XL 192K demo having just 8K RAM, can you? Or maybe your 8088/CGA PC runs Pentium/VGA demos?
Then as an honest man you should mail Sir Clive Sinclair (or whoever he sold his rights on ZX to) and inform him that a new ZX was produced in late 90s. But please, copypaste his answer here. Until then, you can call ZX ATM, Atari, kitchen mixer, whatever. You can even name you kid ZX (or ATM) it's up to you.
added on the 2015-01-03 22:19:41 by TS-Labs TS-Labs
Nice tune
rulez added on the 2015-01-19 03:47:02 by keops keops
полное говно, ради победы и жадких бабок алошка отдал козыри лвдятлу, который подделал голоса.
совет да любовь, пидрилки)
sucks added on the 2015-02-10 09:49:14 by lvdfaggot lvdfaggot
Ugly crap with no relation to ZX. (c) topicstarter
forgottn tumb for 16c xprnc
gojbljad sosait of course
rulez added on the 2015-07-12 20:47:54 by fyrex fyrex
Хуйрексища, дунь в хуй, жирная свинья=)
added on the 2015-07-13 08:44:46 by g0blinish g0blinish
kokoko ueban )
added on the 2015-07-13 09:21:48 by fyrex fyrex
sucks added on the 2015-07-25 12:58:43 by EgonSss EgonSss
for lvd doublevoting
sucks added on the 2016-01-20 16:27:14 by denp denp
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