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Then and Before by altair
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release date : august 2019
release party : Xenium 2019
compo : pc 4k
ranked : 1st
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added on the 2019-09-01 15:49:53 by 100bit 100bit

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Absolute mastery in every possible domain! I bow to you, gentlemen <3
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 15:52:52 by jammer jammer
very stylish!
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 18:13:53 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Best PlayStation™ ad ever.
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 18:18:50 by Gargaj Gargaj
I'm a big fan of arboreal columns and inverted pyramids.
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 18:43:20 by ham ham
fuck yeah!
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 18:53:32 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Atmospheric. The audio and visuals went very well together.
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 18:58:54 by Wutz Wutz
Dark
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 20:01:37 by cce cce
Mad! Could we rename 4k to 4kk now?
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 21:05:22 by Patu Patu
It was so disturbing! In a positive way. Oh wait ;)
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 21:26:36 by malfunction malfunction
bzzzt
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 21:39:55 by pandur pandur
Very cinematographic. Läuft bei euch!
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 21:45:28 by noname noname
Dope as fuck
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 22:03:18 by argasek argasek
...such a great atmosphere made with your common 4K basic ingredients, one of the best 4 K recently for me, just in the end it becomes slightly random...
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 22:27:42 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
omg
rulez added on the 2019-09-01 23:35:04 by provod provod
Holy shit.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 02:02:36 by merry merry
YouTube - to keep your sofas heated
added on the 2019-09-02 09:42:58 by KK KK
Now this is a demo of the year to me. Heavily influenced by Strange Things' Upside-Down, which is the style I love so much recently.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 10:11:56 by hollowone hollowone
Mind blowing
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 10:26:56 by Soundy Soundy
Super nice! Well done.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 10:49:41 by pommak pommak
Man, I dunno. I really don't want to be a killjoy or some overly-critical fuck but like, I'm such a big fan of the people behind this and I love what it's trying to do, the minimal shapes/colors, the sound design/direction, etc. The difficult thing is that it all feels a bit 80% to me - the perturbations are too regular/obvious, the accumulation in the rendering ruins any impact of the hard camera cuts as it blurs frames together, the sounds themselves all have the right vibe and tone but somehow lack impact, and the marching artifacts (which should add to the noisy look and help create the feeling of darkness and chaos) are too regular, making them feel cheap instead of contributing meaningfully. So instead of this dark awesome experience I'm left feeling a bit indifferent - in contrast to waillee, for example, which achieves exactly what I think this prod was trying to achieve, in a more coherent and polished way.

Obvious thumb here as there was clearly a lot of effort involved and I'm super into what I think this was going for. I just wish it actually got there.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 10:56:47 by ferris ferris
Intro of the year for me
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:11:03 by nytrik nytrik
Woop woop! Heavy stuff, though I do kinda feel what Ferris is saying. For me it would have been perfect if it had stopped a minute earlier too.

But still massive af tho!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:17:46 by okkie okkie
Quite cool
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:18:50 by Serpent Serpent
I am spechless
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:20:01 by Sos Sos
superb.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:30:02 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
love it, one of most pleasing 4ks this year.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 11:57:01 by comankh comankh
Really like it.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 12:08:02 by lipek lipek
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added on the 2019-09-02 12:16:53 by gloom gloom
best 4K since ages!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 12:23:21 by Maali Maali
Direction, content, design, feel, tech, ...This is awesome, best 2019 4k intro so far.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 13:23:10 by JaK JaK
Top notch!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 13:42:31 by gopher gopher
I've been playing Control all weekend and this could well have been a cut scene from it!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 13:52:42 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
love it
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 16:00:35 by MKM MKM
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 17:27:37 by lordnkon lordnkon
While I do agree a bit with ferris this is still very awesome
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 17:51:57 by emoon emoon
I liked this a lot.
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 19:10:08 by spiikki spiikki
@ferris: I'm still learning. :) And this was as much as we could do in the limited time we had.

But if there is any way to get in touch with you for more constructive criticism like this, I would gladly consider making an improved "final" version. :)
rulez added on the 2019-09-02 19:45:47 by KK KK
Reminded me on that RING movie. Spooky atmosphere, well done.
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 09:30:01 by Dascon Dascon
That's a 4k extremely well spent. I dislike the constant sudden cuts with the camera and would personally prefer a more ambient approach with these visuals, but wow...
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 10:16:55 by Preacher Preacher
I almost missed with the fader to cut after the demo was showing on the big screen. And the crowd was so silent during the demo the cheering outburst at the end was so loud i jumped from my seat.

Great stuff!
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 11:24:12 by arab arab
WOW
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 12:20:04 by zeebr zeebr
great graphics, great music, but also a bit of what ferris said ;)
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 14:44:38 by HellMood HellMood
A lot of nice things here! :-D
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 17:08:35 by baah baah
krass
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 18:20:50 by seppjo seppjo
Love the rendering of different materials and textures making whole scene more convincing :)
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 18:31:44 by klos klos
Not bad at all. I like its distinct, almost impressionistic look.

One minor disappointment - the composition/music is so dramatized that you would think it will just all explode at the end through this Voronoi cracks.

But anyway, I like cellular patterns so much that I'm still satisfied ;P
rulez added on the 2019-09-03 23:35:40 by tomkh tomkh
Wonderfull
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 14:03:04 by Anat Anat
I'm sorry to say I really want to like this more than I do.

It's very gritty, very nice, and I really enjoyl the first minute or so as it starts off *very* strong.

- The noise is very repetitive. Really enjoying the whacky land scape features, but the detail breaks the illusion. With current perf more octaves probably won't' do, but perhaps stretching it along an axis might give it more randomness and streaky features.

This is especially visible in the reflection and the wavy ocean-ish scene as well.

- The voronoi is too obviously a 2D projection & constant width/brightness makes it too regular.

- It goes on for too long.
The buildup for the first minute is great, but the repetition after 1:20 re-demonstrates the flaws.

Don't take this the wrong way, still a definite thumbs up :D but there's just too many irks for me to truly love it :) Can recommend not doing a final and throwing yourself at the next one because you guys will do even better next time!

Performance wasn't great for me either, but I am 100% guilty of that in... was gonna say 4k but really in well every prod ever :D One tip, if you didn't already, is to only sample noise with many octaves when calculating the normal (to get bump map detail instead of actual geometry detail at the macro levels).

Sorry if I'm sounding too negative, I could probably write more text about stuff I like but then what'd you learn eh ;D
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 14:44:21 by TropicalTrevor TropicalTrevor
This is the apocalypse.

...for other submissions.
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 19:17:51 by szczm_ szczm_
This is pretty damn great! My only complaint would be that some of the objects are brighter in the reflections than they are when seen directly. Physics doesn't work like that ;)
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 19:43:59 by kusma kusma
For version 2 add more colors and copperbars
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 20:24:31 by yzi yzi
Yay!
rulez added on the 2019-09-04 20:52:59 by Frequent Frequent
@TropicalTrevor: No problem! Keep constructive criticism coming! :)

@yzi: Lesnik explicitly forbidden me to add any other colors to this one (and most importantly: no orange!). And considering that he's a much better designer than me, I should better listen to him. :)


But in any case, the ShaderToy version of this intro is now online! :)
added on the 2019-09-04 23:56:31 by KK KK
creepy
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 03:28:00 by BiTL BiTL
KK: The Shadertoy version goes way toooo slow on the same setup the binary version goes fine,...why is that?¿! is it possible? mmmh how strange :/
added on the 2019-09-05 08:19:19 by JaK JaK
Great!
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 10:00:24 by las las
kicks ass, heavily
shadertoy is also slower on my hardware. Which is good, because effects that run smooth on shadertoy will definitely do so on the compo hardware. I still wonder where the lags on shadertoy come from.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 10:58:15 by NR4 NR4
Some flaws are mentioned in the comments above, but this is still probably my favorite 4k for the year thus far.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 11:15:07 by Trilkk Trilkk
Amazing atmosphere and visuals, even though some of the scene repetition could have used a bit of restraint.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 11:22:42 by Warma Warma
I... wow!
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 11:25:25 by numtek numtek
Wow!!
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 12:08:24 by Dalthon Dalthon
You maniacs! Fantastic orchestra sounds and superb atmosphere all round.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 14:16:49 by rloaderro rloaderro
Great thriller on forbidden lands.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 21:45:44 by vdr vdr
you could have unleashed all kinds of random noise towards the end imo....
absolutely stunning atmosphere and style!
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 22:02:15 by gentleman gentleman
Awesome. :)
rulez added on the 2019-09-06 11:36:14 by jimmi jimmi
what ferris said

I like the prod and I'm a big fan of the style and the direction of it, but there are some problems with how the rendering works, that are pulling down your entry massively.

The mad tracer has been around since July 2018 and it's getting a bit stale; it's time for something new.
rulez added on the 2019-09-06 12:23:51 by slerpy slerpy
wow, this is really solid in all departments.
rulez added on the 2019-09-06 18:30:10 by teo teo
OK.
added on the 2019-09-06 19:27:48 by AntDude AntDude
Long time I didn't had such wow effect with 4KiB demo. I love it!
rulez added on the 2019-09-07 20:31:45 by leonard leonard
yeah
rulez added on the 2019-09-08 05:12:13 by FMS_Cat FMS_Cat
but... how?
rulez added on the 2019-09-08 05:36:07 by Minus256 Minus256
Atmospheric and i just get sucked into it.
rulez added on the 2019-09-08 14:45:50 by Zplex Zplex
Just great
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 00:46:30 by Chainsaw Chainsaw
Great work. The visuals, but especially the audio.
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 13:22:04 by psonice psonice
norm
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 13:58:02 by fyrex fyrex
full of atmosphere
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 23:53:57 by a-move a-move
Does not feel 4K, amazing
rulez added on the 2019-09-11 00:50:51 by wullon wullon
I think it's fine as it is. ;)
rulez added on the 2019-09-11 06:50:08 by sol_hsa sol_hsa
Stunning!
rulez added on the 2019-09-11 17:30:12 by Mystra Mystra
phat and epic af. well deserved winner :)

also lol @ gloom comment, such a (coincident) Control reference ;D
rulez added on the 2019-09-11 18:59:04 by wbc\\bz7 wbc\\bz7
yO! KK, w moim osobistym rankingu to jak do tej pory Twoja najlepsza estetycznie produkcja ;) Pozdro.
rulez added on the 2019-09-13 15:22:50 by ninja ninja
Absolutely amazing production, great respect!
rulez added on the 2019-09-15 20:31:17 by Biter Biter
That atmosphere <3 <3
rulez added on the 2019-09-16 17:10:43 by cerror cerror
this is the best 4k for me now
rulez added on the 2019-09-16 19:16:21 by keen keen
omg yes
Eerie. Liked it.
rulez added on the 2019-09-17 23:24:05 by raer raer

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