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Subversive by bypass [web] & Black Maiden [web]
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screenshot added by Trauma Zero on 2003-04-21 14:53:27
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release date : april 2003
release party : Breakpoint 2003
compo : pc 64k
ranked : 3rd
  • rulez 43
  • is ok 17
  • sucks 4
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alltime top: #2207
added on the 2003-04-21 14:53:27 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero

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Sorry but Imho Bypass and Blackamaiden can do better...When I remeber their outstanding demo from MS 2002.....
This intro is dark, ambient boring show, with some suicide poetry, only object / poetry show...... I very like Blackmaiden Bypass demos and intros but this is "lame"
sucks added on the 2003-04-21 14:58:57 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
doesn't run on a radeon.
added on the 2003-04-21 15:02:24 by sagacity sagacity
sagacity:
from nfo:
[quote]

requirements

only nvidia & at least geforce3 / geforce4 Card
(geForce4mx won't work!)
[/qoute]
4:( - this is a big mistake I have run this intro on my GeForce2Mx ... works fine....
:( - it still sucks that it doesn't run on my card.
added on the 2003-04-21 15:35:12 by sagacity sagacity
dont work at radeon 9000
added on the 2003-04-21 15:49:38 by qaz qaz
nice "replay style" intro... good ambient, nice music...
deserved to be 2nd
rulez added on the 2003-04-21 16:11:21 by spengler spengler
Some nice objects, nice shadows...
But some shadows were buggy... shadowvolumes not capped properly?

Waiting for a final (one that also runs on Radeons yes)
added on the 2003-04-21 16:14:16 by Scali Scali
Works ok on my Geforce2MX too. It's not a bad intro, but nothing above average.
added on the 2003-04-21 16:14:45 by Wade Wade
i like it very much, its really worth a look, good work guys!
rulez added on the 2003-04-21 16:22:30 by elkmoose elkmoose
Saw it on GF2MX. Some bugs here and there, but I still liked it. Especially the atmohsphere.
rulez added on the 2003-04-21 16:47:16 by dairos dairos
I thought this was pretty nice. Great shadows and only a few bugs. But the "pokemon" scene was definitely a low point. It should've wagged it's tail or something.
rulez added on the 2003-04-21 19:16:35 by sea_monkey sea_monkey
as far as i know (hadn't been involved in this prod) it isn't supposed to run on MX cards. so don't bother watching on these, you will miss effects.

rocking production!
rulez added on the 2003-04-22 01:31:56 by dipswitch dipswitch
pokemon?? WTF????
aahahaha anyway thx you all for liking this prod
i like it a lot too ;))
rulez added on the 2003-04-22 16:57:33 by __ __
Very good intro in a tough competition.
added on the 2003-04-23 00:42:46 by Crest Crest
nvidia only? fuck off lamers
sucks added on the 2003-04-23 00:48:04 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Yeah, fuck off ATI!
rulez added on the 2003-04-23 09:58:37 by PigPen PigPen
sweet little intro.. nice mood and models. but the screen is a bit too empty at times and the texts smell of scenepoetry slightly.. 8)
rulez added on the 2003-04-23 10:06:31 by bhead bhead
bypass did it again :)
rulez added on the 2003-04-23 11:40:59 by Gargaj Gargaj
this is my favourite intro from the compretition.
it has style, atmosphere and looks really beautiful.
but farbrausch had tits :)

some objects look like visualize-rippoffs, though, and there is too much black around...


rulez added on the 2003-04-23 19:48:54 by hfr hfr
A damn good BYPASS intro ... I luv' it §
Style and armoshere in it !

Oh and it runs ok on my GeForce256 ... :)
rulez added on the 2003-04-25 09:44:02 by kohai kohai
nice work! a bit too boring for me, but very well done =) keep it up
rulez added on the 2003-04-27 18:29:34 by spy-da spy-da
!
rulez added on the 2003-04-28 00:13:16 by Igoronimo Igoronimo
nice shadows. nice everything.
rulez added on the 2003-04-29 23:39:05 by diver diver
why the fuck only Nvidia Cards ?
Next time try to "support" every cards !! or continue in your lazyness and do an AMD duron or Intel celeronA Only would be fine !!
what cannot be done on other cards ??
(some said that they watched it with their G2MX ?

< Radeon 9700 >
sucks added on the 2003-04-30 16:28:14 by wheely wheely
Not that interesting imho.
added on the 2003-04-30 16:39:34 by tomaes tomaes
wheely (and all nvidia-only bashers): try to follow a rule of thumb in your life... when you are going to speak from your ass fart instead... in OpenGL when it comes to advanced features like vertex/pixel programs etc it goes through vendor specific (non-ARB) extensions, and I guess that is the reason that it runs only on nvidia cards.. And ofcourse it is not reasonable to expect from a democoder to have an array of different video cards at his disposal to write code paths using different extensions. So please since you are totally ignorant shut the fuck up, cause you piss me off.
added on the 2003-04-30 16:46:34 by Nuclear Nuclear
thanks for your comments!

i'm a bit pissed of people down-voting this, because of the hardware requirements. as you can imagine i do not have ton's of graphics hardware to code/test on. aside from, it's a 64k intro, there isn't much space left for different (hardware specific) codepathes. i'm sure you (complaning) guys can do a lot better.. !

yes, the intro runs on cards like geforce, geforce2 (even tnt cards might be possible) - BUT as the infofile states, you need at least a geforce3 to see a correct working intro. shadow volumes will be capped improperly on hardware below geforce3, which results in wrong shadowed (= mainly black) areas. same goes for speed, as arb_vertex_program is only supported in hardware on geforce3 and upper cards. on lower cards the vertex shaders are emulated in software, which results in decreased performance. no problems should arise with the featured normal mapping, which is btw the nvidia specific reason.

maybe we will find the time and release an updated version with support for different vendors graphics cards. we will see..
added on the 2003-04-30 19:29:21 by warp warp
yea warp spoke the truth..
then i have some pal of mine who watched this demo on a GF2MX so well hey, gf2mx became so cheaaaaaap, just throw in a garbage your radeon if you're not ok with it.......... so many demos or intros requires nvidia only, why don't you post that kinda shitty comments on some ULTRA LEET demogroup prods??????

would be supaaa cool you know?!

or just get a fucking life and learn when it's the right moment to THUMB DOWN.
added on the 2003-05-07 12:25:48 by __ __
[..] If you feel your demo needs MMX you just code it and slap a "MMX Required" tag in the FILE_ID.DIZ. Some people may be annoyed, but hey! [..]

just quoting :)
(not that this is an excuse to ati owners thought)
added on the 2003-05-23 01:04:50 by warp warp
nvidia only sucks. but this prod does not.
from what i remember it is absolutely beautiful and was my favourite intro in the competition.
i want an avi ;)
rulez added on the 2003-05-27 15:10:07 by fiver2^fB fiver2^fB
cool atmosphere, cool music and best intro from bp! but, i have redeon and don't watch this intro at home:( please, fix it.
rulez added on the 2003-05-27 20:07:39 by qaz qaz
'gl_arb_vertex_program not supported' :(
whatever that means, i want to see the intro again .. guess my gforce ain't enough to run it =)
added on the 2003-05-27 22:29:55 by dalezr dalezr
dalezy: runs quite good with gf2 ti here...
added on the 2003-05-27 23:26:43 by Crest Crest
this was very good, albeit a little repetitive and dull.
added on the 2003-05-27 23:43:01 by gloom gloom
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rulez added on the 2003-06-10 03:01:33 by tomic tomic
i wish to have gf4.. anyway saw it and it looked and sounded great!
rulez added on the 2003-06-23 16:42:03 by shadez shadez
well, it's definitely a cool intro but (hint to the coder) i'll save my thumb for the final version that works also on my radeon 9800...
added on the 2003-12-06 16:57:54 by melw melw
Beautiful!
rulez added on the 2003-12-24 15:26:55 by shash shash
support radeon users!!!!!!!
added on the 2003-12-31 19:11:17 by qaz qaz
after a long time waiting i finally watched this on my dads computer, nice stuff. but please support radeon :)
rulez added on the 2004-02-13 11:03:04 by bzz bzz
crash on GF4ti ?
error at start, grey bar and : GL_ARB_vertex_program not supported
winME + GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128Mb) (leadtek drivers, wich runs with 97% of the others demos) +P4+512Mb ram
i was quite sure that i have already posted the link to the video-version here.

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/demos/groups/bypass/bpsbm_subversive_avi.zip
added on the 2004-02-23 01:02:37 by warp warp
Ehm, if its the ARB_VERTEX_PROGRAM that is causing it to be nVidia only then its not true, since that extension exists on ATI aswell (and has done so for an eternity).
added on the 2004-02-23 01:18:38 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
"..no problems should arise with the featured normal mapping, which is btw the nvidia specific reason.."

(some posts earlier)
added on the 2004-02-23 01:44:50 by warp warp
read: nv_register_combiners
added on the 2004-02-23 01:47:50 by warp warp
rocks
rulez added on the 2004-07-15 17:09:34 by meCh\bps meCh\bps
sorry for bad quality in the intro itself. for those who want to hear it again in moderate quality:

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/artists/marek/marek-subversive.ogg
added on the 2004-08-07 21:21:04 by marek marek
triple thumb up for the tune : Marek, you roxx !!
rulez added on the 2004-09-15 16:23:14 by bLa bLa
nice ambience
rulez added on the 2004-09-15 16:41:59 by ttl ttl
even if it does not run on my radeon 9600 mobility, ther are some very very nice obejcts, so a double thumb up for that.
2x thumb up - 1x thumb down = 1x thumb up
rulez added on the 2004-11-01 12:30:59 by las las
Nice models, but overall quite dull.
added on the 2004-11-01 12:54:20 by Preacher Preacher
nice music & camera...
rulez added on the 2004-11-01 14:45:01 by ninja ninja
meh, its barely ok......

now make it run on ATI's, and it'll rock
Subversive tastes like an Halcyon intro of the '97 period. Even the music sounds like what Dune, Croaker, MD, Kenet, ... did at the time.
rulez added on the 2004-11-06 11:15:22 by p01 p01
cool... you thumb up something you say as totally unoriginal... yeah cool...
man.. im sorry to tell you md and dune didnt invent electronic music tho they were good at doing it (even very good).
added on the 2005-03-31 21:30:51 by __ __
o_Õ

Did I say MD and Dune invented electronic music ?
This prod is not a ripoff. It feels like '97 and brings its own style with it.
added on the 2005-03-31 23:06:36 by p01 p01
Huh? Where's my comment? It was my favourite from the compo. Even though it was a really tough compo...
rulez added on the 2005-04-27 18:29:47 by chock chock
Totally wonderful! I somehow cannot remember having seen it in the compo though. Perhaps i was too drunk.
rulez added on the 2005-05-24 16:58:55 by eye eye
rulez added on the 2005-06-15 17:33:27 by got got
ahaha po1, remind me i owe you a beer at saturne party :D
added on the 2005-09-03 14:25:53 by __ __
My ATI doesn't like it, I like the dark mood.
rulez added on the 2005-10-21 17:07:04 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
crashed on ATI ;(
only nv ;/
sucks added on the 2005-11-04 22:56:00 by wie8 wie8
pybass
rulez added on the 2006-07-29 03:10:08 by starbuck starbuck
that linear interpolated camera sucks, but the intro itself is very cool
rulez added on the 2007-04-24 11:26:58 by beton beton
good goods
rulez added on the 2007-07-02 16:39:07 by crs crs
Maybe this prod now looks a little old, but i sill love it.
I've appreciated the overall melancolic mood, mostly due to this minimalistic and naively sad music.
rulez added on the 2008-04-20 12:51:40 by untel untel
ambient, darkstyle <3
rulez added on the 2008-05-23 15:11:25 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Nice intro, totally forgot about that one
rulez added on the 2008-12-31 01:26:07 by keops keops
yes..............
rulez added on the 2011-12-17 21:23:14 by Frequent Frequent
nice intro by even nicer people.
rulez added on the 2011-12-17 21:51:10 by superplek superplek
"Totally wonderful! I somehow cannot remember having seen it in the compo though. Perhaps i was too drunk."

Awesome dude! Never got to a demoparty and probably I´ll get drunk too, when I do.
added on the 2012-08-28 15:55:47 by efen3002 efen3002
fine
rulez added on the 2013-07-27 08:02:25 by provod provod
it doesn't work even on modern radeons
added on the 2013-07-27 08:53:24 by v3nom v3nom
Learn reading the nfo. This was and is NV only and perfectly works on NV machines.
Why? Because.
added on the 2013-09-10 08:20:16 by las las
Ok
rulez added on the 2015-02-23 14:54:48 by BiTL BiTL
Surprisingly nice shading on the 3d, very good usage of limited resources. Backgrounds could've been something more imaginative :|
rulez added on the 2015-02-23 17:22:37 by noby noby
Very nice intro which looks really good and has a great tune too!
rulez added on the 2017-02-17 21:59:56 by StingRay StingRay
love it

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