NightTime by Scarab Corpse [web]
screenshot added by triple on 2003-06-01 14:25:17
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release date : june 2003
release party : Birdie 2003
compo : pc demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 60%
  • 0.52
alltime top: #4611
added on the 2003-06-01 14:25:17 by triple triple

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i really like the effect with the bear and the fire... but rest of the demo is booring and slow
added on the 2003-06-01 14:51:59 by bzz bzz
i liked the gfx and some effects, ok music, think it fits to the title. Keep it up! :)
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 15:00:57 by LHS LHS
Yes awsumm gfx and cool Deep sounding music.
Respect !
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 15:08:27 by Mike 3D Mike 3D
it's not ugly, but too much outdated style...
added on the 2003-06-01 15:17:43 by spengler spengler
the screenshot effect was great :D
nice pixelart and a cozy atmosphere but in general kinda boring..
deffenitly deserved to win though (:
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 16:53:35 by lithis lithis
cool an moody demo, love how the gfx, music and overall design really works togeither. On the other side, your gourard shader seems dead slow, the particles move jerky, and some of the animation is a bit too linear. I really love the glowing particle-squid-effect. Thumbs up, hope to see the speed issues of the engine fixed in your next demo :)
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 18:16:50 by kusma kusma
It's nice to see extensive use of 2D graphics. The particles were nice. But everything moved so slowly and scenes too simple in content.
oh my god - they kill the framerate!
sucks added on the 2003-06-01 20:32:12 by rasmus/loonies rasmus/loonies
nice stuff...
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 20:47:20 by starbuck starbuck
a very good one ! perhaps a little too slow... but there are original ideas and the colors are very nice. so yes, and definitively yes !
rulez added on the 2003-06-01 22:55:31 by sokoban sokoban
Nice demo with an unique atmosphere. I like it and also speed wise it's mostly ok on my old machine.
added on the 2003-06-02 00:09:40 by Crest Crest
except for the code, which seems to suck ass (next to the fact that it does nothing even halfway impressive), the materials were kinda okay. some nice graphics, some nice music, some good ideas...

but the "coding" just spoils that so badly
sucks added on the 2003-06-02 00:10:47 by superplek superplek
Haha, yeah, the coding is.. well, not perfect.
It's fairly optimized and my first attempt at a 3d engine. It runs fine on my Duron 800 so cut me some slack ;)
added on the 2003-06-02 08:38:05 by cloaked cloaked
A very nice overall ... The speed issue, while being noticeable, don't kill it in the end. And props for GFX work ( cute bears ! :) )
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 10:43:00 by kohai kohai
fairly optimized.. 800 mhz.. for this..

where is the world heading.
added on the 2003-06-02 11:09:24 by superplek superplek
Highs: Great art, presentation, music. The theme was great, and it oozed atmosphere.

Lows: Outdated 3D objects, slow pace, sorta chugs at times [even on my 1.6ghz p4].

The highs outweigh the lows, thumbs up! Honestly this is the only demo from Birdie worth watching (unfortunately). Miles ahead of everything else shown.
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 12:29:25 by GltTcH GltTcH
jep outstanding artwork !
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 12:39:15 by Laxical Laxical
Krayz's artwork and gs's music is simply wonderful.

I know there are speed issues but the demo actually runs fine on my 450MHz at work here as well although a little slow. The jerkyness that is noticeable even on high-end machine is a bit weird and doesn't seem to be caused by slow code.

I'm looking into this however, a final version is planned.
added on the 2003-06-02 13:13:04 by cloaked cloaked
pretty pleasant! and the demo actually doesn't seem to run slowly here (700mhz athlon), no chugging present. although I think a *certain scener* (no names) would have a thing or two to say about the subpixel-correction in this demo!
added on the 2003-06-02 13:45:20 by sagacity sagacity
Haven't watched this but...

Fast on P3/450, Durons and Athlons and slow on P4s? Doesn't that ring a bell?
added on the 2003-06-02 13:54:56 by moT moT
boring ?? /me doesn't want to see only fast epileptic hollywoodish cliptros...

this demo has a fantastic fairy touch with beautiful gfx and night lights which reminds me of Orion productions like Purple or Splif's gfx.

it makes me want to watch former Scarab Corpse productions :)
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 14:25:28 by Zest Zest
Watched it on a lousy P4 with dead-slow PC133 SDRAM (on that sorry excuse of a mobo chipset they call the vanilla 845).

Well, it's no Varifom alright, it's slow paced like Orion's Purple but its pace in fact works. Cute graphics all over the place and hypnotic music give this demo a nice feeling. All this with the software rendering make this seem rather old (1998 or something) but that doesn't hurt. The code ran ok in turms of framerate but it was jerky at times. I'll have to watch it on a P3 to see if it does differently there.

All in all, a respectable demo. Well done.
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 15:32:46 by moT moT
A bunch of fairly decent pictures scrolling by, plus some neat objects and particles on top.
Not uninteresting, but unsatisfying.
added on the 2003-06-02 15:42:51 by tomaes tomaes
vilken söt liten nalle!
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 18:39:20 by fgfgf fgfgf
not bad...not astonishing either..
added on the 2003-06-02 19:07:28 by coma coma
Its way below 30fps on my PIII 1GHz... And it really is booring.
added on the 2003-06-02 19:23:06 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
great graphics, poor code :(
sucks added on the 2003-06-02 21:01:57 by shadez shadez
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 21:04:59 by diver diver
moT: probably that it needs some serious cache-optimizing.
added on the 2003-06-02 23:12:46 by cloaked cloaked
One of the most interesting demos of recent times. It may be a little just a little slow but it makes no negative effect on the enjoyment of watching this great production. Krayz has done a great job with setting the atmosphere with the graphics. Infact, this might just be a perfect demo for watching on shrooms :) The effects are all interesting and certainally not the usual "lets follow the latest trend" stuff.. Mega thumbs up for me..
rulez added on the 2003-06-02 23:45:23 by darkus darkus
nice graphics, been missing handdrawn art in the latest demos .. the musick fits nicely to the whole screenplay. well done guys.
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 01:48:06 by dalezr dalezr
Everything but the code pleased me. Expect to see an updated & optimized engine next time (or for the final :P)
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 03:08:39 by shash shash
What beauty
Great gfx & music, scrolling isn't smooth (p4 2.53 and gf FX!), but well done :))
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 06:21:25 by Buckethead Buckethead
cool one.
nice gfx, and music.
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 08:02:04 by got got
darkus: what the fuck are you ranting on about? *which* effects? :)
added on the 2003-06-03 09:06:11 by superplek superplek

I'm strictly using FSOUND_Stream_GetTime() for sync. and that might very well explain the jerkyness on faster systems.
added on the 2003-06-03 11:34:44 by cloaked cloaked
some great work to be seen here.
but the stuttering scrolling and the bad-looking lighting of the objects spoils it quite a bit.
added on the 2003-06-03 12:12:42 by cp_ cp_
hhmm, worked just fine on this seriously outdated pc here (p3, 450MHz), so the scrolling is a tad jerky, i didn't get any allergies. the fx are simple (for todays standards). i liked the music, the backgrounds and the atmosphere. also the fx complement them nicely.
i'd like to see more productions like this.
congrats! =)
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 12:46:58 by earx earx
Yeah, another software rendered demo, but it's very slowpaced and boring. I like that a lot of gfx artwork is beeing used..
added on the 2003-06-03 13:00:19 by Optimus Optimus
Demo with one of the best 2d works ive seen. ok, the effects are somewhat simple, but i like the moving lowpoly thingies. and hey...it was worth hushing it up and waiting for the compo... thanks alien :)
rulez added on the 2003-06-03 13:47:50 by Delax Delax
CloakedAlien: The demo definitly have speed issues on mye P4 1800, and it's only in some parts. The framerate seems tu drop below 20 fps in some parts, in some other parts not. (Believe me, it's not a fmod-problem)
added on the 2003-06-03 13:47:58 by kusma kusma
hmm, wierd. I ran it again, and now it was no serious framerate drops. Only jerky animations here and there.
added on the 2003-06-03 13:53:57 by kusma kusma
kusma: there's definately is an issue with fmod. low precision timer gives the same result as a speed issue. I have to work on some sort of fmod/qpc timer hybrid or something to get it accurate AND in sync with the music.

This in combination with the code in some sequences my explain the sporadic drops in framerates. I hardly get any fps dips on my Duron 800MHz. Logic dictates the code doesn't run slower on your P4 1800 ;)

At this point it seems like the main issues are timer and cache (after all it is software and alot of data is being moved all over the place). Some other optimizations has to be done as well, of course, but I'm working on that.

I'm open to constructive suggestions in the meantime. Like when and where the fps seems to drop, sporadic or constant, system performance, etc..

Thanks for all your comments! Both negative and positive.
added on the 2003-06-03 14:16:08 by cloaked cloaked
Okay, now a guy just asked me how the hell I made this prod run so much faster than any other current demo released.. and he's running it on his 600Mhz laptop...
added on the 2003-06-03 22:22:54 by cloaked cloaked
"At this point it seems like the main issues are timer and cache (after all it is software and alot of data is being moved all over the place)"

as if hardware rendering prevents that :)

anyway, it'd BETTER run fast on a 600mhz laptop.. come on.. it's not really rendering anything :)
added on the 2003-06-04 09:04:59 by superplek superplek
cute :)
rulez added on the 2003-06-04 10:35:46 by elkmoose elkmoose
For once, I really agree with plek. Wow!
added on the 2003-06-04 11:31:28 by Optimus Optimus
Liked it, except for the 3d bear (needs some touching up). Particles + artwork ruled, music was good.
rulez added on the 2003-06-04 15:19:03 by psonice psonice
Thanks for the positive comments about the artwork guys. Most appreciated!
added on the 2003-06-04 23:43:31 by krayz krayz
This make the sun shine really bright out of my heart! oh Happy......
rulez added on the 2003-06-05 14:40:40 by Paul Chartres Paul Chartres
not bad :) but i agree that the 3D bear needs some touch-up. But after all its it a good prod
rulez added on the 2003-06-21 18:54:17 by Kami68k Kami68k
good 2d gfxs but bad used
the design is so boring
i like it!
added on the 2003-08-23 16:17:22 by ripper ripper
great gfx and music, but the 3d bear and rather lame effects almost spoils the mood
rulez added on the 2005-01-01 10:48:18 by hollowman hollowman
enjoyed it a lot
the music is quiet

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