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added on the 2006-12-22 09:46:36 by uncle-x uncle-x
Steohawk: you're as brainwashed as during cold war : you were given a global unified enemy so that your corrupted politicians and corporations can do what they want with US money, freedoms and human rights. stop watching your propaganda media. and impeach that shameful president that has so many private interests in oil/war industries >:(



added on the 2006-12-22 09:53:37 by Zest Zest
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A known terrorist is someone who declares their intent to commit acts of terror, even if they haven't done so yet.


It might seem fair to you, but the point is that when a president doesn't play by the rules of the country he's president0ring, that country can't be a free democracy. When such a country then wants to impose its own ways on other countries, then that country doesn't come across so well to the rest of the world.

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Saddam Hussein had stated many times that he if he could, he would destroy the US and Israel. He claimed to have WMDs, but he didn't really have much other than a bunch of seran gas. Even if he didn't have the ability, he had the intent. Other terrorists are still present in Iraq, and they mean to do the same.


Saddam was a bad guy, and I'm pretty sure Iraq is better off without him. But regardless, that wasn't how the war started. You can justify it to yourself any way you like, but if you support the people who orchestrated the war, that implies supporting their justification for it, and it's changed at least two times since the war started, meaning it's not a reason but an excuse.

The fact remains Iraq was never a threat to anyone. There's still fighting IN Iraq, as you point out, but the war WITH Iraq was settled in a couple of hours. I think fn Denmark might have won that war alone. So if that's a "big" threat to the US then I think you'll manage.

Oh, that's right, the terrorists. They're very dangerous. You know the applicable definition of a terrorist is "Anyone who uses terror as a weapon in a political struggle, frequently in an attempt to coerce a more powerful opponent, such as a government", right? There's something about having nothing to fear but fear itself. Must've been a french guy who said that. Anyway, terror is a crime, not an enemy. You can't be at war with a crime. That's pure rhetoric.

"War on terror" translates to "war on evil" if you filter out the rhetoric. That's also known as a "crusade", or a "jihad". Depending on who you ask. The point is nobody asked the US.

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The current Iranian and North Korean leaders have both declared the intent to destroy the US. Even if their claims about nuclear weapons are false, they still pose an iminent threat.


That's just it - North Korea HAS the bomb, and for that reason they won't be invaded. Because they might actually fight back. Which sends the message that if you want to be safe from the US, you need real WMDs: If you don't have any, they'll just say you do and then invade you. If you have WMDs, they send diplomats in stead of soldiers.

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What you call genocide was a desperate attempt to save ourselves from the Japanese empire that wanted to rule half the world. I wish we could have done something different, but we didn't have time to formulate a better plan.


Then maybe you should have done nothing. You killed thousands and thousands of innocent people in an attempt to coerce a more powerful opponent. You wrote the book on terrorism. But you won the war, so you got to decide that it was necessary and not evil. But now you have enemies using the same reasoning against you. Isn't that like ironic or something?

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I never said that torture doesn't happen, but we don't allow it. We don't allow murder either, but it happens everyday.


The question is if it's government-sanctioned. Guantanamo Bay was/is. The detainees there are categorized as somewhere between civilians and military, so they're denied the rights of both.

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There is nothing wrong with political fundraising, which isn't the same as corporate sponsorship.


Except that it creates ties between politicians and well-funded interest groups - in effect, sponsorship. This is why it's highly regulated in most of Europe.

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We DO violently defend our country. That's called war. We are at war with terrorists, which are not limited to one country.


Yes. So, obviously, America doesn't feel the same way about itself as the world feels about America. Point is that it looks bad from over here, not so bad from over there. And that inconsistency suggests you shouldn't judge a country by the headlines in the foreign news.

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They are in Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and many other countries in the mid-east. We are not at war WITH Iraq, but IN Iraq. I have said all this, but I won't argue that their are maniacs in my own country. Just because someone is religious, like the president or myself, doesn't mean that they're extremists.


It's pretty extreme for a president to say that Jesus wanted him to become president. By European standards, anyway. I guess yours are lower?

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I consider anybody who wants to ban violent video games to be against the very concept of freedom. Is Germany a freedom-hating country? Maybe that isn't fascism, but it's still wrong.


Freedom is a stupid word. It's been used and abused so much that it doesn't really mean anything anymore.

Yeah, I rant, but it's a nice way to pretend to be working.
added on the 2006-12-22 11:29:51 by doomdoom doomdoom
Steohawk is teh brainwash3d American tardist
added on the 2006-12-22 16:27:43 by button button
@Steohawk

What you call fascism isn't fascism - it's simply paternalism, "father knows best". Paternalism has had tradition in Germany for centuries, that's why it's difficult to overcome it.
added on the 2006-12-22 17:01:10 by Adok Adok
I won't argue with Doom^IRIS, but I just wanted to point out that freedom isn't a stupid word. The founding fathers of my country declared that people of America should be free. The politicians decided that the definition of "people" is male white adults. Women were emancipated, and the definition became white adults. Blacks were emancipated, and the definition became adults. Now, children are the ultimate tool of politicians. Whenever laws are debated, politicians argue about how something might effect children. Over time, they have painted children to be ignorant and unworthy of civil liberties. This has become a self-fufilling prophecy. Children start to believe that they can't make decisions. I know this from experience. Throughout my childhood, I felt so inferior that I was afraid to do anything for myself. I felt like I needed to put all decisions in the hands of adults. Politicians and child molesters share one thing in common. They both see children as a means to an end. Neither will ask a child what he/she wants or needs. Politicians decide what THEY think is best, and hire psychologists to be their yes-men. If children around the world revolted against their governments, I wonder if their governments would respond with violence. I don't want the citizens of Germany, adults and children alike, to be deprived of the right to play the video games they like. Unfortunately, politicians will use children as a tool to take away this right.

@Adok
I'm using the word "fascism" loosely. I'm not actually reffering to a form of government.

BTW, I consider it an insult to refer to children as being naive, ignorant, easily influenced, or anything else you wouldn't use to describe adults.
added on the 2006-12-23 04:52:28 by Steohawk Steohawk
Of course children are just as intelligent as adults. But they are weaker due to their physique and due to their insufficient means of expressing and spreading their opinion. Therefore it's easy for adults to oppress them.

I believe that one day, a children's liberation movement will come, just like the women's liberation movement, but in contrast to it, it will mostly be carried out by adults.
added on the 2006-12-23 11:41:21 by Adok Adok
adok, are you talking about this political party.
added on the 2006-12-23 12:03:27 by _-_-__ _-_-__
No. It only demands some particular rights for children aged 12 or more such as choosing one's place of residence, having sex or using soft drugs. That is not radical enough.

I would propose giving human beings of any age exactly the same rights. Punishment for a particular deed should start once the person is aware that this particular deed is not allowed.
added on the 2006-12-23 12:10:28 by Adok Adok
Sadam should not be killed because he gave the world's best comedian! The information minister
added on the 2006-12-23 15:42:50 by xernobyl xernobyl

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