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the same thing the people buying the official conspiracy theory are guilty of, but none of yalls sees it. There is nothing paranoid about being realistic and speaking out.

All wars are planned Rob. Every single war ever was planned, they rarely "just happen". troops are not moved by accident. So to conclude they are part of human nature (which i highly doubt, it is fairly new phenomena in our timeline) may be right, but it doesnt mean they 'just happens' as you want to imply.

Ok, I am willing to believe that.

What would be the ultimate goal of this "group of people"?

And how can it be that they are poisoning us, while the live expectancy rate is rising every year.

*life expectancy rate

the same as it is with any politician. power and money, both want more if itself. more wants more wants more, and then less for you and me. What else?

there is hardly anything truely sinister about it, but it is fucking annoying and is going to pose a real problem real soon if we dont do something about these -id say_ unwelcome changes in our systems of governing.

especially, and this is my key issue and has been for a while. Corporations must be stripped of their rights as a human. A corporation and a human are not the same, they do not operate ina democracy on the same terms, so its ridiculous they are bestowed with the same rights and posabilite4s to influence the political game. It is unfair, and must be dealt with before we can have honesty back in our political life. And that is what i am advocating. Not truth, just honesty in politics because it has so dire consequences. This is where the real conspiracys is IMO. HOw did they go from being constructs of interrest to becomming a legal person? incredible legal trickery there.

perhaps thats why they do it. In Denmark Ramlosa has to write the following. This water is not reccomended for children under the age of 7 due to high levels of water flouridation.

how did that get in there and why? why is it in much of the tap water of the world (not so much in europe). Why can we get no clear answer on things like aspartame and why are the proponents of it, the same houses of 'study' that praised tobacco and asbestos back in the day. We are being poiusoned allright, and all because of greed, and politicians who are either bought, or scared. One of the two because they sure dont do whats right.

My own wife who is a dentist have started to seriously question flouride, as has a lot of her collegues after molineux released her repport linking this particular poison to lowering of IQ and causing ADL like symptoms.

When it was debated at first flouride, it was said that 1 part in a million was concidered safe. today toothpaste has 1500-5000 that is a lot more than initially thought healhty. But all for the teeth ofcourse.

Im not saying i know why, i think it is due to greed, but i cannot figure out what good comes of it other than making shitloads of money to the medical complex when people needs to be kept alive for those 10 years more on average we have to be sick in now that the live expectancy rate is rising

If you think im over reacting.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=jJW&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=the+fluoride+deception&spell=1

And could someone explain to me, with all these facts out, and the fact that government seems to be nothing but sock puppets to the industry, why i should belive a word they are saying? Do they have a track record that gives me reason to?

why do someone wants to have elevated levels of flouride in everything we eat. Are you aware it is the active ingredient in drugs like prozac in the form of fluoxetine, and that we have known for a fact that it causes memory disorders, adhd, several kinds of bone cancer. But it is everywhere, and in some places somebody is trying to lobby it into the water supply.

In 98% of europe its not in the tap water, but you will find it in rich amounts in a lot of tv dinners through the water used (they dont have to label this), most of the bottled water we fill out stupid heads with, if you want toothpaste without it, you have to go look for it, it is rarely readily avavible. This stuss if just about all over the place, and im not supposed to be suspicious?. How do you make that work?

and that is just one of the drugs that seems to be 'pushed' agressively into the marked place.

You are not supposed to eat or swallow toothpaste, didn't your mommy told you that? :)

Anyway, it is very easy to get toothpaste without fluoride in the Netherlands.

Rob, you are trivialising the problem here. It is not just that it is in toothpaste, because if that was the case it would merely be an odd choice of additive. And the way it has been promoted is a case of blurry tobacco science and agressive marketing. Do you know why? I dont know why, but i think it is very odd, and rightfully so.

The list of poisons and potential poisons are growing as we speak. And all of them follow the same pattern as fluoride. What interrest does a company have in using suspicious chemicals, that are the target of constant attack, and at best is proven 'non lethal', in its food? Would it not be a lot easyer and more cost effecient to just all out avoid them, when there are no obvious benefit from them?

But no a swarm of lobbyist are working to keep them in place, where they would have been banned from the marked place, and another swarm of lawyers for the lawsuits from the victims. Why?

My 1 year old nephew swallows the toothpaste when he gets his teeth brushed. I told my sister to get something without fluoride, but she won't listen.

Water flouridation was common for some time in the German Democratic Republic (way before the re-union)... They did it for some years, but they eventually noticed that is isnt good at all. Well, i am quite shocked that this is still done today...

Nowadays, many people here in the ex-GDR have totally over-fluoridated teeth (dont know if thats the right term), even the younger ones...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20996515/

ohnoes, the conspiracy goes even deeper!!!!

Accident my ass. We're supposed to believe everything is an accident and a coincident. Coincident theorists are much more wacky than conspiracy theorists.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
-Franklin D. Roosevelt

"Coincidence" dammit. I want an edit button!

funkyou78 and cruiser. Shhhhh now. dont reason, go back to sleep. You even got a spinal reaction from keops, who knows that when you have nothing to say, nothing to add, no thought of you're own you has to ridecule instead of just shutting the fuck up.

Dont think it is an odd choice of design to choce for a building made only 20 years after ww2, it was a coincidfence like everything else in politics are. You know, the bricks came down tetris style and they had to rearrange them fast, so there was no time to think....oh wait, thats not how it really happens is it?!! but it is obviously a coincidence that a building worth millions came to look like a swastica, no initial thought behind it, no rationale, as always in politics.

holy john the babtists severered head in a blender, they try to pass the building design of as an accident. If anyone here is buying into a building that size being an accident, i have some swamp land in florida with ocean view id just love to sell to you...yeah that and an old iron tower in paris, and a bridge in N:Y. all cheap ofcourse.

biglolz Francis P. Yockey is really angry!

also, he is being sarcastic

also, his name sounds like a girl's name, followed by something that comes out of peepee holes, followed by a type of high velocity ice sport

also, this is not a bad name at all! its very very not bad

forestcre, you would be too, if you spend a little less time on mindless consumerism and started thinking. Dont worry it only hurts the first couple of times you do it, but dont give up.

OMG! I found what may be the biggest conspiracy of all time, and you can read all about it here

I dont disagree with you, allthough not the 'biggest' conspiracy ever..

I.D. you are on to something, but you are missing the forrest for all the trees, the biggest conspiracy of all time is the religions in themselves. One of the religions could theoretically be valid (though highly unlikely, as they all defy common sense), but at least all religions but one are completely false. The conspiracies are so successfull that even if we know most about them and even if we are thought some of their teachings at school we all still fail to recognise that they are simply conspiracies... =)

Heck, most religions even have a large crowd of employees whose single job is to continue to spread the missinformation, that surely must be an obvious sign of a truely grand conspiracy. ;)

forestcre: very analytical post, you show promise. if only you still had the ability to apply that analytical/critical thinking of yours to the World around you and to things that really matter; instead of pathetic personal insults. you're one of the many people today whose vision has been reduced to that of an ant, unable and unwilling to see the larger picture.
I personally wouldn't label Francis "angry", although he's fully justified to feel rage as many of us do from time to time. He's passionate and concerned for his people, family, friends and a way of life which is slowly (but surely) being taken from us all. THIS is something to shout about, right? It's more important than who wins the Champion's League this year, or what happens to your favorite character in some fantasy BS soap opera. I guess I would say it is strange how you could view someone like Francis as an enemy, however, I understand all-too-well how passion and genuine care for humanity has been all but eradicated from the mainstream mass-consciousness and is even frowned upon.. sad really

shrimp are you willing to put everything you encounter in you're life under the same scrutiny as you just did religion?. I agree that religion is the longest running, most vile and disgusting multi level marketing scam EVER, just one more dishonest player in a hodgepodge of vile we call civilisation.

Francis: Unfortunately I do, but I attribute most of the strange fenomena seen in the world as effects of either stupidity or greed or a combination of them, and rarely see the need to view them as conspiracies.

Thing is the creationist argument can seem very convincing if you only listen to creationists. You need the bigger picture in order to realize who's really trying to suppress the truth. That means listening to what "the establishment" or "the man" has to say, and accepting the possibility that he might be right.

It's not about the quantity and the loudness of the arguments, but about the quality, and ultimately about logic. Truth doesn't respect the wishes of the majority. You link to a Google search for "the flouride deception" for example. 210,000 hits. Obviously there's a lot of controversy, but that doesn't mean there's 210,000 facts out that all point to a grand conspiracy. Information isn't knowledge. Every single thing that's been said about flouride being the subject of a conspiracy could be false.

If you think that's "improbable", click here to learn of an even bigger conspiracy (by the quantity standard). 1,900,000 hits, and it's still all a load of crap. Why? Because it's fueled by a lot of people who don't know the first thing about biology, but who all want to believe something other than what the establishment is saying.

there is a lot of assuming in what you write, a lot more assuming that i need to resort to, to defend my possition. Have you checked anything about flouride, have you followed the debate and supression of critics? Have you done this? Ofcourse you havent, it is a spinal reflex because you for some reason wants this



to be more true. I do listen to both sides and then make up my mind. What troubles me is that i catch "the man", lying on a daily basis, so his track record aint all that in my book. Now, why is it in yours?