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the simplest most "democratic" solution is that each user has his own individual "ban list" for both users and threads. a very simple mechanism to implement.

but of course that will not go down well with the Pro-Ban Committee here because what they really want most is to totally silence those who THEY consider annoying. They would not be content with the fact that they personally no longer have to suffer the so-called trolls, they also want to dictate norms and acceptable social behavior on behalf of everyone else.

this is their mindset, and to me they are more annoying than trolls.
added on the 2007-11-11 02:41:07 by button button
I'm drunken and life sucks. And yes I'm a retarded ohhhh! From mosts point of view here. How can some arrogant assholes say that there exist some retards? If you think it's useful than ban me. pff... just do it.
How could you descrimitate some freaks here? If you don't give them any attention, they will disappear automatically. (feeling bad at the moment and just surfing around here)
added on the 2007-11-11 02:43:28 by seppjo seppjo
digg is quite liberal too.

as rmeht said, a good liberal anti-troll solution would be to give the users a checkbox to disable image links and 'fakeuser'-labelled posts.
added on the 2007-11-11 02:49:19 by Zest Zest
btw speaking on my own behalf, i say a big thanx to ps & gargaj for maintaining and managing our dear pouët (besides glöperators and scene.org admins).

:)
added on the 2007-11-11 03:01:17 by Zest Zest
zest: definitely. theyre running a great show here. and even if i don't agree with their planned solution to "trolls", they are only trying to make pouet better for everyone....which is to be commended.

i just dont think a huge ban-fest is a good idea. pouet is pretty much pefect as it stands already
added on the 2007-11-11 03:08:52 by button button
I think. Trolls should think.
added on the 2007-11-11 03:24:11 by jim jim
Amitari, seppjo, seems like you guys don't really get it.
In a normal society (yeah, i emphasize "normal" here) ppl who got problems are put in jail, or in some kind of places where they all are put. Sorry, but that's a worldwide case, it's not ment to be fascist, nor anti whatever, it's just society. Society, to live on its own, got the bad tendence to put its mistake aside, for anyone to live "better", without seeing the "worst cases of its race". Yes, that's a shame. But that's what makes the world what it is, and that's what we call "community life". A community HAS to have rules. A community HAS to be sometimes sectarist, for the common lambda person to live better. And I guess you know it, "common lambda person" is a term that fits for a fucking bigger number of persons than "not the usual lambda guy". Humanity is like that. Helping the biggest number to feel good, while others, a few of them, live aside. That's life. If society rules aint set up, that's anarchy. Pouet was anarchy till ps did that. It was a pain in the ass for me to ignore some shits that was said in here, i more than one time wanted to yell because of absurdity told by random trolls. Yes, that's their job, trolling, but they got too far. Really too far. Consider this, and call me how you want to call me, but I fucking support what ps did on that point. If you hate pouet now because of that, go to hell.
added on the 2007-11-11 03:29:27 by iks iks
L.C.F. if you are a troll you have an interesting aglorithm. 0 gölps. :D you need to improve this. You really seem to be a random user no matter how drunk I am.
added on the 2007-11-11 03:30:08 by seppjo seppjo
peace irokos, I'm really too drunken to debate about it. got the point actually.
added on the 2007-11-11 03:31:31 by seppjo seppjo
I'd be happy if this wasn't necessary. You (banned people) don't need to suck everyones cock to be here, just act a bit more like this was real life. Imagine spoiling a party, puking on the floor and telling people they are jerks... You'd probably get kicked out pretty quickly...
Imo Optimus an Majic are the good examples that people can actually improve their behaviour, and the rest of pouet will more or less accept them...
added on the 2007-11-11 04:16:30 by raer raer
..magic that is...
added on the 2007-11-11 04:17:10 by raer raer
Most of you guys act like you are inside an ideology linked with the personality and behaviour of a bunch of cul serré constipé (tight constipated ass) that walk with their leg closed from each other while heading towards a Fundamentalist Christian Church(FCC REGULATION).

Let pouet be what pouet has always been. POUËT is an excellent thesis subject that clearly shows that a website without moderation in its forum is viable/spam free/educational and original. While the forum might not reflect the views of the "Religious People", it clearly is a good example of mixed ideas and subject where everybody can discuss with free thought in mind.
added on the 2007-11-11 04:35:20 by ATH500 ATH500
yeh, let’s build a “community” on the internet that’s equally as drab and conformist as every-day society. that sounds really interesting and fun. :P comparing real-world societies to online communities is ridiculous. you have the power to NOT click on certain links and with the right technology installed on pouet you would also have the power to “ignore” certain people if YOU chose to. there’s no need for total bans on individuals whose opinions or personality you dislike, yet others might appreciate.

i agree with ATH500. let pouet be as Pouet has always been and screw thte uptight conformists. they have nothing better to do but worry about what other's think and say. but at the end of the day, pouet mods will decide, so. :E
added on the 2007-11-11 04:46:14 by button button
my point is the people shouldn't make this place their personal shitdump. for the same reason they shouldn't act this way in real life. otherwise they're jerks. just because there's a white wall you don't spray-paint asshole all over it, do you?
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...it clearly is a good example of mixed ideas and subject where everybody can discuss with free thought in mind...

not recently. sry.
added on the 2007-11-11 05:05:37 by raer raer
some people think of graffite and spray-paint as "art" and some people see plane white walls boring! you know :|

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added on the 2007-11-11 05:36:37 by button button
first flipcode now pouet :((
added on the 2007-11-11 06:54:10 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
sealthz is probably tomaes or some other hated german scener...
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As for Pouet scaring off prospective sceners, I for one think Pouet is a fairly good reflection of demo parties, with their psychotic Polish people, Metalvotze, loud SID music, people working on stupid projects, people shamelessly promoting themselves and their projects, the ridiculously filthy toilets, junk food that actually really makes you sick, the occasional glimpse of what's under Nosfe's skirt, and all that. Of course there's more to the scene than that, but then there's also more to the Pouet BBS, if you actually try to take your palm off your face every once in a while to see what's happening amidst all the noise.

No, this is not true...
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Steohawk was just some random troll, I think we all got that, probably one of Shane's alter egos. But even assuming he was an actual person, he was thoroughly driven away when the mob collectively decided he was out of line. That should tell you something about the nature of the disorder from which all these "trolls" suffer.

shane is many sceners, for example kookie/carnage wade/haujobb etc. but i don't think he is pedophile. steohawk is just somebody. and vulva is steohawk also, probably.
added on the 2007-11-11 10:17:32 by uns3en_ uns3en_
tomaes is hated? unssi, try visiting a party outside finland.
added on the 2007-11-11 11:00:55 by skrebbel skrebbel
also, ps for president. i think it's fair to say that the fact that exactly the annoying trolls who've never even had the decency to show themselves in public (them, and stefan) are babbling about democratic solutions and all the real sceners (ex stefan) support ps' choices. good riddance.
added on the 2007-11-11 11:04:33 by skrebbel skrebbel
Whiteknighted by skrebbel. \o/

Oh, and after all those years this sudden change of heart regarding troll banning is interesting. I don't think it'll do that much, but it's worth a try.
added on the 2007-11-11 11:43:11 by tomaes tomaes
Good one ps, please continue to clean up, Pouet has been trollridden for too long..
added on the 2007-11-11 12:03:58 by evil evil
Although a cleanup is nice it seems a bit unfair that it only seems to have been targeted at the easy victims, the ones who dont have as strong connection to the scene as others. Several of those who insult the most and post the most nonsene in serious threads are persons who have enough friends on the scene and visit the parties that count, thereby meeting the pouet standard of a real scener, and therefor they will probably never be banned.
I have enjoyed Shanes posts alot more than the constant bullshit from some of the approved people.

Also I want to know what parties you have to visit to stop hating tomaes.
added on the 2007-11-11 12:08:32 by hollowman hollowman
could it be that ps is just ironic at this issue?
i don't think that he will moderate pouet alone and at freewill and in such a lynch law style way.
a individual ban list as amitari suggested would be nice though. then i could finally get rid of LFC, in a democratic way ;-)
added on the 2007-11-11 12:10:10 by v3nom v3nom
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Also I want to know what parties you have to visit to stop hating tomaes

I don't get this. Why do you "hate" me? Is it a hobby of yours to hate random people you don't know, or was it just a light-hearted troll and you forgot a smiley or something?
added on the 2007-11-11 12:21:10 by tomaes tomaes

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