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So, are demos art?

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4mat : Like this ? link me beautiful
added on the 2011-05-10 23:36:07 by Korguiq Korguiq
Rez, thumb up.
added on the 2011-05-10 23:49:27 by keops keops
last time checked, demos were art.
added on the 2011-05-11 14:34:23 by Defiance Defiance
Yes.
added on the 2011-05-11 15:52:02 by glxblt glxblt
That looks like the NIVEA logo. Must be good for your skin that chocolate.
added on the 2011-05-11 16:28:25 by xernobyl xernobyl
Next question?
added on the 2011-05-11 20:47:00 by ddeml ddeml
Are intros art?
added on the 2011-05-11 21:58:42 by ham ham
Last time I checked, they were. ;)
added on the 2011-05-11 22:12:48 by Korguiq Korguiq
are crack-intros art?
are cracks art?
is using crack art?
added on the 2011-05-12 01:15:33 by nosfe nosfe
some art isn't even art
added on the 2011-05-12 08:06:45 by farfar farfar
Subjective.
One man/woman's shit another man/woman's art.
added on the 2011-05-12 09:26:23 by cg_ cg_
cg_, whether something is shit or not has nothing to do with if something is art or not. people often make the mistake of thinking that if they don't like something then 'it's not art'. but that's just false.
added on the 2011-05-12 10:22:25 by nosfe nosfe
if video games are art in the first place, then pretty clearly demos are art too..
added on the 2011-05-12 10:25:08 by nystep nystep
"Everyone is an artist.” --Joseph Beuys
added on the 2011-05-12 10:29:05 by nosfe nosfe
It could be possible to make sculptures, or paintings, made of excrement.
So it would be both art and shit.

Q.E.D.

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added on the 2011-05-12 10:32:24 by ham ham
[quote]are crack-intros art?
are cracks art?
is using crack art?[quote]

SURE!

"teh ancient art of cracktro"
added on the 2011-05-12 10:35:54 by rez rez
bbcode fail is probably art too.
added on the 2011-05-12 10:36:24 by rez rez
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if video games are art in the first place, then pretty clearly demos are art too..

Funny you should talk about video games.
Sure, on the technical side, they share a lot with games. But considering the viewer experience and the way to embed feelings and ideas (which is what art is about, in the end) they are much closer to animation films than video games IMO.
added on the 2011-05-12 10:57:23 by Tarmil Tarmil
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But considering the viewer experience and the way to embed feelings and ideas (which is what art is about, in the end) they are much closer to animation films than video games IMO.


Hey, surprisingly i had a very similar talk recently. There was someone musician who was permanently whining and bitching that some people didn't like his musics, and he ended up pissing me off so much that i had to tell him a few truths.

I ended up explaining that art is about transmitting an emotionnal message from one person to another. There are usually 3 points that make something "art":

* The artist: it's the one who is sensitive, listens to the emotions of his heart when he is working on the message.
* The message can be in any medium that one human produces and that others can experience. It means that the artist has to be someone who masterizes the technic to give a message in a particular medium, in the other case the original feelings and emotions can be altered.
* The observer is someone who can feel the original emotions and feelings that the artist meant to pass on. Observers are not always open to art. They can be selective and subjective.

I think everyone tries to get the first 2 points, usually the technic is pretty big to learn to make demos, but it's not the only point that one has to develop. When artists try to get the 3rd point it's what we call "crowd-pleasing" or "popular/mainstream art" maybe. ;)

There is the added difficulty for some art forms that the Artist is actually more an Art team, so there basicly is a "leader" who tries to communicate to others how the "message" should be. When people have too strong visions about how things should be it can generate conflicts.

my 2 cents :p
added on the 2011-05-12 12:20:34 by nystep nystep
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Hey, surprisingly i had a very similar talk recently. There was someone musician who was permanently whining and bitching that some people didn't like his musics, and he ended up pissing me off so much that i had to tell him a few truths.


you are speaking about Kaneel?
added on the 2011-05-12 13:04:02 by rez rez
you didn't have to say it maybe... *facepalm*

anyway yes, in that case we have someone who is master at a technique but who doesn't listen to the heart and doesn't want to please the crowd. so he doesn't transmit anything, kind of awkward. :/
added on the 2011-05-12 13:09:52 by nystep nystep
"Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic".
Oscar Wilde in The Soul of Man Under Socialism (1895)

That explain why I'm still doing oldskool intro ;D
added on the 2011-05-12 14:09:49 by rez rez
nosfe: well you have to be able to say what you think =) I went to some exhibitions recently where I could honestly say 'that stuff over there isn't art'. In my own subjective opinion of course - but when I'm stood in front of a painting and there is zero evidence of any knowledge of composition, or lighting, or rendering, or anatomy, when all there is, is a crude implementation of a half-assed idea, then that isn't art. It's just someone who wants to do art, but who hasn't really succeeded.

To me, anyway.
added on the 2011-05-12 14:38:20 by farfar farfar
plaf, even badly done shitty pieces of art are art.
added on the 2011-05-12 15:49:08 by nosfe nosfe
well I guess that's the topic of discussion :)
added on the 2011-05-12 16:01:03 by farfar farfar

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