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Windows 8, the end of 4k on windows?

category: general [glöplog]
the end of demoscene is close at now. own demos with interactivity, and with full multiplayer support...
added on the 2011-09-12 19:48:45 by Bartoshe Bartoshe
and THEN you jepg them
3. ????
4. Profit!
added on the 2011-09-12 19:49:05 by Puryx Puryx
well if you want some jpegs of rock texture, or some fucked up FFT grass, or some house bricks, just let us know. We charge 100 euros per jpeg. We can also offer you samples of a choir or strings or a distorted lead. Let us know!
added on the 2011-09-12 19:52:35 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
shit. people are going to work out what are next intro is going to do now!
added on the 2011-09-12 19:53:19 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
i have a related question and i yet have to install vs10. now, i was making a has-to-be-tiny project and ran into that infamous cant load mscrt9.dll box @ launch when not embedding the manifest. now it seems the manifest tells the loader where to find that dll - i'm guessing i need to link against an alternate crt lib or go commando like in the old days and implement the necessary stuff myself? pointers appreciated.
added on the 2011-09-12 19:59:14 by superplek superplek
*facepalm*
added on the 2011-09-12 20:03:42 by ferris ferris
facepalm squared. memory refreshed, issue solved. carry on gentlemen.
added on the 2011-09-12 20:07:48 by superplek superplek
Ferris, he wanted pointers, so make that

Code:int *facepalm;
yeah ha-ha i'm a bit rusty -- get the fuck over it and move along already.
added on the 2011-09-12 20:16:05 by superplek superplek
Actually, I forgot to read the second page before posting :D
added on the 2011-09-12 20:59:22 by ferris ferris
and i'm _obviously_ very self-conscious about my rustyness and obvious oversights before i fire questions :)
added on the 2011-09-12 21:05:48 by superplek superplek
why do I have to ask all the embarrassing questions while others lap up the answers? :-)

Look, we learnt the hard way not to write demo on linux then port to windows. This time it's windows first, because windows is fucking difficult :-) Thanks for the help from the non-facepalmers!
added on the 2011-09-12 21:35:24 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
directsound is half a sound driver. and yes, it would work better if I ruled out XP and used the new api.
added on the 2011-09-12 21:36:48 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
new hardware don't support DOS very well anymore. well, atleast my laptop doesnt. it keeps restarting after x-amount of minutes. then if that happens too often, the filesystem gets fucked and needs to insert backup cd and reinstall the bootup-sequence. and dosbox is not emulating all e 100%. example the vsynch-register(s) is not emulated. that is you cannot get rasterbars working.
added on the 2011-09-12 21:42:36 by rudi rudi
You're free to add that feature and recompile Dosbox. I did that when I needed 512*384 VLB modes. Or alternatively you score a dated PC and move your DOS-development there.
added on the 2011-09-12 21:47:34 by superplek superplek
and MeteoriK, one tip: sit down a think prior to posting -- it's real hard to make any sense of what you're saying. I'll ignore 1 post and reply to the last one: just pick the technology you deem fitting for your 4K. Certainly for that genre, compatibility isn't something to miss a lot of sleep over. Specific requirements are, to some reasonable extent (e.g. not supporting XP), okay.
added on the 2011-09-12 21:49:22 by superplek superplek
i'm linking against opengl32.lib gdi32.lib kernel32.lib user32.lib winmm.lib, but no system32.lib, but it doesn't mean that i don't do it wrong. :D
added on the 2011-09-12 23:11:04 by nystep nystep
surely you *must* do it wrong to fit it in 4k? :)
added on the 2011-09-12 23:51:24 by psonice psonice
superplek|bps: the later one i prefer. i use a compiled binary version of dosbox, using windows. are there any opensource projects available for download? cant be adding anything if not. im not too experienced with VGA. I can research and implement though. but if you have emulated synch-registers, why not try give the dosbox-developers and have them implement it as feature in next dosbox-release? just a though.
added on the 2011-09-13 00:37:46 by rudi rudi
dosbox is opensource and with a bit of twiddling you'll get it to compile in visual studio. i guess you can ask about the feature on their forum. perhaps there is some good reason it isnt there already since that stuff is rather duh to begin with.
added on the 2011-09-13 00:43:08 by superplek superplek
It seems there are some people here fiddling with Windows 8 installs...

Have anyone tried running a Crinkler-compressed 4k intro (which works on Windows 7, i.e. from Crinkler 1.2 or newer) on Windows 8? It is on my todo-list, but I have been holding back until there is an official beta of Windows 8.

Also, what Gargaj said: If anyone has a reference to information about new requirements that Windows 8 puts on executables, please share.

I would like to take this opportunity to mention Crinkler's compatibility strategy: Whenever a new Windows arrives which is incompatible with existing Crinkler-compressed executables (which so far has happened in two out of two cases), we update Crinkler to work with the new Windows and provide an option to fix old intros. Don't worry, your 4ks are safe. :)
added on the 2011-09-13 09:53:01 by Blueberry Blueberry
:D
added on the 2011-09-13 10:02:54 by xTr1m xTr1m
And no licence fee either :)
added on the 2011-09-13 11:21:23 by gloom gloom
pouet needs a "like" button for the thread comments.
added on the 2011-09-13 19:02:10 by iq iq
Indeed. Some of the comments here are pure gold. :)
added on the 2011-09-13 20:09:01 by gloom gloom

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