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RIP Steve Jobs

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The massmarket will probably be ready for the TimeBand developed in the early 90`s in 2016. Apple is just ahead of it`s time everytime.

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added on the 2011-10-07 23:41:57 by Zplex Zplex
Oh and just to define some limits for the outside-intended-use I mentioned, I'm not talking about compiling a kernel or such.

My experience with people who want to have the option of compiling a kernel (as in "Linux experts") is that most like to boast about being able to run a tweaked/optimized kernel on a toothbrush (and maybe ping localhost ;), but at the end of the day none of them actually want to get down hands-on and make it run _for real_. Surprisingly, they also rather want a system that works! But for some unexplained reason the option of compiling the kernel (or tweaking other irrelevant parameters to the task at hand) has to be there :)
added on the 2011-10-07 23:49:02 by el-bee el-bee
How about - when I plug my mp3 player into my computer I can simply transfer files from 1 folder to another using either the c-line or a filemanager without having to use a proprietary piece of software (of which there isn't even a version for my os so I have to run it thru an emulator) which then stores the files in a higgle-dee-piggle-dee mess rather than say using the alphabet and say... ID3 tags like the rest of the world. Is that too far out of intended use?
added on the 2011-10-08 01:02:21 by ringofyre ringofyre
Umm. iTunes does store the files according to their ID3 tags… Are you sure you're using iTunes?!
added on the 2011-10-08 01:04:44 by decipher decipher
As for the adulation - this guy surely deserved a shrine over SJ.
added on the 2011-10-08 01:08:48 by ringofyre ringofyre
Access an ipod in a file manager on a non-apple system - you'll see what I mean.
added on the 2011-10-08 01:10:08 by ringofyre ringofyre
yeah, it stores them in quite an organised way. Plus, once you go past a 128mb mp3 player and a handful of mp3s some kind of tool to organise + sync shit gets essential. It'd take fucking hours to sort my tunes out doing it manually instead of using automated playlists and such.

As it is, I just tell iTunes to copy 2 playlists to my phone: one with 4gb of tracks i've rated 5* (the least played 4gb, so it's always fresh) and the other anything I haven't rated yet. Took a couple of minutes to set up, now it's automatic.

Wait, I think I get it now... ringo is stuck in 2001!
added on the 2011-10-08 01:10:18 by psonice psonice
So you're telling me Dubya's gone and there's a black guy in the White House. No way! ;)
added on the 2011-10-08 01:16:10 by ringofyre ringofyre
appearantly they broke the speed of light, too.

also, i dont need automatic rating for music, all the music on my computer is great :D
added on the 2011-10-08 01:22:31 by vectory vectory
oh, least!=last
added on the 2011-10-08 01:23:19 by vectory vectory
automatic rating would be fucking awesome! No need to listen to all those shit tracks to find the gems! Regrettably i'm still rating it all manually though :D The playlist just sticks anything without a rating on my phone, and removes it once it's rated.
added on the 2011-10-08 01:33:19 by psonice psonice
RIP btw
added on the 2011-10-08 01:40:11 by numtek numtek
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My experience with people who want to have the option of compiling a kernel (as in "Linux experts") is that most like to boast about being able to run a tweaked/optimized kernel on a toothbrush (and maybe ping localhost ;), but at the end of the day none of them actually want to get down hands-on and make it run _for real_. Surprisingly, they also rather want a system that works! But for some unexplained reason the option of compiling the kernel (or tweaking other irrelevant parameters to the task at hand) has to be there :)


Whoa... Wait a second. Are you talking about desktop Linux, or Linux in general. Because being able to compile and customize the kernel is exactly what allows Linux to appear in places that OSX and Windows will never dare tread. It's defintely not irrelevant.

From personal experience I can guarantee that almost all commercial oilfield equipment, such as monitoring, controls, etc, run customized Linux kernels. Granted, they don't run a GUI, but that's sort of the point in these devices.

(To be honest, I've never seen anything other than Linux in these devices, but I'm certain QNX lurks somwhere in the shadows.)
California computing legend, early phone phreak, Breakout! developer, silicon valley allumni, Pixar and so much more ... I've worked with macs since the apple II but never owned one except for a pizzabox mac and currently a way overdue legacy ipod nano ...

That said: Blugh, I'm tired of people in the media talking like their personal yoga teacher died and how he invented sliced bread, the guy was a total dick who yelled at people constantly and struck fear into his minions (I have firsthand accounts from friends who worked at cupertino not too far back), a smart and charismatic bully and snake oil stage magician who ran the bang & olufsen of computing, I love jony's design, steve just always wears new balance ...
Ralph Steinman vs Steve Jobs.
Both of these guys died from pancreatic cancer (albeit different types). 1 of them is a Nobel Prize winner (for his own research) who was prepared to be a guinea-pig for his peers - not just in an effort to cure himself but also to help his peers in their research so that they may save others.
The other was the very rich head of a company that sold expensive electronic goods (who *personally* on record rarely did anything remotely philanthropic), stepped down pretty much at the last minute so the share price wouldn't take too much of a hit in case he died whilst he was still at the helm.
Now.
Which of these guys deserve shrines all over the world?
added on the 2011-10-08 06:57:25 by ringofyre ringofyre
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stepped down pretty much at the last minute so the share price wouldn't take too much of a hit in case he died
Oh come on, at this point you could say he died right after the keynote on purpose.
added on the 2011-10-08 10:03:59 by Zavie Zavie
did he?!
or maybe before but the show must go on! :)
i've no idea who Jobs was. just a multibillionair who owned a company that made a few gadgets. death is sad, but worshipping mortal men who didn't know you personally from a hole in the ground is even sadder.
added on the 2011-10-08 10:52:46 by button button
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but worshipping mortal men who didn't know you personally from a hole in the ground is even sadder


isn't it the very same when people mourn a scener's death here on pouet's bbs? and most of those didn't know the guy personally either...
button said it all.
added on the 2011-10-08 11:43:01 by Defiance Defiance
el-bee nailed it.
added on the 2011-10-08 12:14:59 by tonic tonic
A successful man is hated alive and worshipped dead.
added on the 2011-10-08 12:20:24 by Zplex Zplex
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I'm tired of people in the media talking like their personal yoga teacher died


spot on Weyland :))
added on the 2011-10-08 13:33:31 by superplek superplek
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For the actual Rest-In-Peace.. How could I miss Steve never having known him in person? Would be silly to claim that, but for sure, I will definitely miss not getting the chance to talk with him about how much intended the cattle fencing approach actually was ;)

It's not about missing someone as if it was a friend or a relative, but rather about missing a piece — not the only one, but one of many —  of the epoch that formed my childhood, that formed my profession and personality and everything I am. Seeing these pieces go one by one makes me realize that my time passes away too and, with fewer and fewer anchors of my epoch still existing or alive, I'm too slowly becoming less relevant, more of a fossil. This is very sad, and it has remarkably little to do with what kind of man SJ actually was in person or how bad is iTunes. RIP, Steve.
added on the 2011-10-08 14:01:58 by svo svo

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