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My 2 cents.

For me, most Apple products have made me think about usability and design. After switching to Mac - I ran Windows on my machine the first almost two years, mainly because I'd written tons of code that work on Windows. I now use my time writing code instead of computer maintenance, which was something that happened to me all the time with Windows, and I must admit I also love the aesthetics of Mac OS X - and I have Unix right there, instead of crippled DOS... And it made me realize, that I hated Windows in the first place. I don't miss horsing around with registry, UAC, WinSXS, taskbar or uninstall.

I also find it interesting, that most of the really skilled developers I know, is switching to Mac.
added on the 2011-10-17 21:15:48 by d3pth d3pth
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I know I can't fucking stand them.

Too right!
Interesting that the windows users seem to have quietly accepted their lot. Sitting in the corner playing their huge variety of games. On dx11. With hd sound...
Bugger!
added on the 2011-10-17 21:52:54 by ringofyre ringofyre
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instead of crippled DOS


hey, grandpa... :)
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computer maintenance my ass. last time i had to perform "maintenance" was when havoc put a sausage in my dvd-rom!
which btw still makes my house smell like hotdog when i burn stuff!
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computer maintenance my dvd-rom. last time i had to perform "maintenance" was when havoc put a sausage in my ass!

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which btw still makes my house smell like hotdog when i bum stuff!
added on the 2011-10-18 00:57:34 by ringofyre ringofyre
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Wonder what the productivity level is like between apple/non-apple users on here btw?

im a non-apple user and i dont make shit.
go figure :D
added on the 2011-10-18 01:11:33 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
maali: that was dforce, i had nothing to do with it! honest! :)
added on the 2011-10-18 01:22:04 by havoc havoc
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I also find it interesting, that most of the really skilled developers I know, is switching to Mac.


stop right there.

i believe in using the right tools for the job; for video editing you want to use final cut on a mac, and for coding you want to use visual studio on windows. anything else is a step down.
i did some projects in xcode over the past year and it was not an experience id care to repeat. especially if i wanted to actually debug anything ever.


added on the 2011-10-18 10:20:57 by smash smash
smash: when you're coding for a living you have to consider a bit more than the best tools for the job. The app store is probably the justification rather than Xcode ;) What did you do in Xcode, if you don't mind my asking?
added on the 2011-10-18 10:57:31 by psonice psonice
well, I've got Visual studio express, which is somewhat.. lacking. Standard edition doesn't exist anymore, and VS2010 pro is about 600 quid. kdevelop4 on linux here :P

Although I'd have to agree. If I wrote something in xcode, it would be this:

10 print "FUCK THIS SHIT!"
20 goto 10
added on the 2011-10-18 11:08:33 by MeteoriK MeteoriK
psonice: if i worked on iphone id probably cross-develop all the graphics side on windows and only use xcode for the last possible bits. :) (which is what i did on mac too)
added on the 2011-10-18 11:12:41 by smash smash
meaty: ive _seen_ you utterly fail to find a core dump with gdb and then sitting there printf debugging, so maybe it applies to linux coders too. ;)
added on the 2011-10-18 11:13:41 by smash smash
Agree on XCode - tried it for a day and decided a text editor that isn't able to keep up with my typing speed on a friggin' 2.4GHz Core2Duo (freshly installed MBP) is just not the kind of software I'm willing to use. So for one iOS project I just did my part in VS Express with some quickly hacked Win32 wrapper around it and shunned XCode except for the absolutely necessary parts (pressing "Build+Run" mainly).

Back to the topic of Converse and indie chicks tho, please.
added on the 2011-10-18 11:22:47 by kb_ kb_
kb: personally i like the john varvatos range the most
added on the 2011-10-18 11:26:04 by smash smash
smash: ehm, I believe he was talking about "really skilled developers".. No need to get excited.
added on the 2011-10-18 11:38:02 by Hyde Hyde
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smash: ehm, I believe he was talking about "really skilled developers".. No need to get excited.


but where is Navis? :D
added on the 2011-10-18 14:18:50 by rez rez
smash: Oh, didn't know that range. Now the purple leather one... damnit. :)
added on the 2011-10-18 14:52:48 by kb_ kb_
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Back to the topic of Converse and indie chicks tho, please.


converse are sooooo indie dad, you bunch of old people! I prefer sitting in Starbucks with my cardigan, twirling my ironic moustache and searching the latest Nike Dunks or 0-tier leather Vans Era designs on Hypebeast (on my Macbook Pro of course!) also, I'm listening the latest Wavves EP called "Life Suxx" and the song "I wanna meet Dave Grohl" really captures the post-chill wave mood of 2011.

-posted from my iPad
added on the 2011-10-18 15:01:21 by okkie okkie
I feel physically ill after reading that.
added on the 2011-10-18 15:04:47 by Preacher Preacher
"twirling my ironic moustache" *giggle*
added on the 2011-10-18 15:06:57 by Hyde Hyde
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added on the 2011-10-18 15:09:55 by rez rez
Okkie, apart from that fact that sitting in a Starbucks is like sooooo 2008, you mean that it was actually the demoscene and their love for FOLIBAs who influenced today's hipsters? Yaaay... that's like chiptunes all again. :/
added on the 2011-10-18 15:41:09 by kb_ kb_
KB, I call it "Starbucks" but it's actually this new place I don't want you to know about, because it's really hip and now and if it gets known the "regular" people would show up (you know, Windows users. *roll eyes*)
added on the 2011-10-18 15:49:21 by okkie okkie
indeed, never tell anyone about the fat-free motor oil drinking at the petrol station-hype!

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