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Orgas, don't crank the volume.

category: general [glöplog]
we were sitting very close to the hifi, right in the basswave (first table, close to the titandemo banner). i had no problem with my ears (except of some very high wave sounds), perhaps they are already damaged enough ;), but hey, take your protection with you the next time and everything is ok ;D
added on the 2004-12-31 11:06:45 by las las
BASS!
added on the 2004-12-31 11:59:25 by shash shash
Just an historical note: they have had "free earplugs at the infodesk" at Assembly since 1995 or so, until they decided to put a severe limitation both to people's soundsystem and party's.
Anyway, a large number of party productions are meant to be played at earblasting volume, so deal with it :)
added on the 2004-12-31 12:08:32 by dixan dixan
I agree: tUM was way too loud. It's quite disappointing to meet a couple of long time not seen friends, and being unable to talk a few words because of the freaking noise.
added on the 2004-12-31 13:23:36 by tomcat tomcat
Don't sit at tables, go walk around and drink beers!
added on the 2004-12-31 13:44:20 by elend elend
Tomcat: Exactly. I had quite a bit of problems talking to a finnish friend of mine, partly because of a bit of accent, and mostly because of the noiselevel.
Elend: word.
Them volume buttons beckon! - And it's tempting to show off, if you had to cough up a lot of dough for the P.A. But fact is that I've never been to a party where the volume was too low. If those orgas want better sound reproduction, they should draw a big curtain somewhere in the hall - e.g. at the back wall - to take away some of that evil reverberation.
added on the 2004-12-31 15:40:19 by JoaCHIP JoaCHIP
i dont mind fullblast volume during compos - and the rest of the party is of course nicer with some _BACKGROUND_ music :)
added on the 2004-12-31 15:49:20 by Gargaj Gargaj
Would be nice if party organisers would put some money to the partyhall acoustics. It might not be possible at all at bigger parties, but at smaller parties it wouldn't be too hard. At least I would enjoy music compo much more if there wouldn't be hell of reverb and resonation here and there.

Loud volume doesn't really bother me. I'm used to it, but with lousu acoustics loud volumes tends to mess up the sound so bad, it's almost unrecognisable :)
added on the 2004-12-31 17:00:37 by teel teel
generally the noise level could maybe be a bit lower but during compos it has to be LOUD
added on the 2004-12-31 17:17:27 by dodke dodke
This thread has reminded me I need to bring along earplugs tonight.

I should also probably shave my balls .
nothing beats TP sound levels with automatic echoing due to placement of speakers around the halls :)
Rasmus speaks the truth.
added on the 2005-01-03 08:31:37 by NoahR NoahR
dodke: I agree.
added on the 2005-01-03 08:44:47 by irvin irvin
i don't mind high volume during compos (in fact, i encourage it :), but sometimes it can be a little too much - especially if the orgas are pumping out 4k music without any kind of post-processing (compression, eq etc)
added on the 2005-01-03 09:13:32 by gloom gloom
depends. there are 4k's with good sound and bad sound - IMHO it wouldn't be fair to postprocess bad sounding ones just because they sound bad, it invalidates the ability to judge them properly.
added on the 2005-01-03 09:35:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
I'm really sorry hearing about this AFTER the event. I didn't hear any complains about the volume so I thought it was ok.
In fact we made the soundcheck with a nearly empty hall, which may have been a mistake.
Nevertheless I don't believe the PA we had at tUM was a bad one. Next time we'll invest more time to do a proper adjustment of the whole soundsystem.
I therefore apologize for the inconvinience.
added on the 2005-01-03 10:26:14 by benJam benJam
btw: i don't think that it's the organizers' job to apply any postprocessing to the contributions. We don't have the time to find the best settings for all the different productions.

We try to reproduce the sound as neutral as possible. Though, we unfortunatly seem to have failed _this time_.
added on the 2005-01-03 10:29:24 by benJam benJam
A bit off topic, but it never ceases to amaze me how Reason stuff always sound better on party PAs. That program was written to make mass produced standardised stuff :)

Some people do great stuff in reason though, no doubt :)
To put things into relation, i was at an Oomph and Nightwish concert a few hours after the party, and i must say that the party was severely louder than the concert. During the party i didn't have the feeling it was way too loud though. Oh well, i have to look out whether i have to re-ask too often. :> On the other hand, i have my hearing anomaly that i can hear frequences around 20 KHz yet, which would probably disappear if i was deaf. :>

Party rocked. Sound was maybe somewhat loud, but clean. And the beamer simply bloody rocked!
added on the 2005-01-03 14:08:45 by eye eye
'ump the volume and make sure a person with skills is behind the mixer. That's my tip.
added on the 2005-01-03 14:37:54 by irvin irvin
benJam: Maybe next time you should have the controls in front of the speakers, where the people who saw the demos were?
DOM...reason is shithot if you have a little patience with it. Most stuff needs final mastering and all that. But its usually enough to "broaden" the sound. Behringers stereo enchancer works miracles on reason tunes for some reason. Its a pretty shitty enchancer, but with reason its...will it suddenyl have a purpose.

added on the 2005-01-03 15:41:16 by NoahR NoahR
gargaj/benjam: some degree of "post processing" (bad choice of words, my mistake) is always needed when dealing with P/A-systems, and i didn't mean for organizers to change the sound of the intro/demo/tune, just make sure it doesn't break the P/A-system / the listeners ears. :) a good sound-technician is the difference between "loud and crappy" and "loud and tolerable/phat" :)
added on the 2005-01-03 18:35:01 by gloom gloom

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