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Trisquel GNU/Linux amd64
added on the 2021-08-13 10:49:09 by El Topo El Topo
Oupsie... I fail in my BBS searchbar skillz :-(
added on the 2021-08-13 10:58:15 by El Topo El Topo
Ah that 90s game, show me your desktop, when we're bored! El Topo, your desktop looks slow and bloated. Questionable choice of editor. I've written my own, but I can't be arsed to finish some important features, so I'm using kate. Screenshot shows my own editor just for gimmick. I have a second monitor with a couple of shells and communication windows. http://neoscientists.org/~bifat/images/bifat-desktop.png
added on the 2021-08-13 11:31:44 by bifat bifat
Aww yiss, desktop wars! The only way to avoid bloat is to use traditional low-footprint software such as fvwm2 and nano. Konsole? Bah! xterm is still the way to go. :)

https://datagubbe.se/fvwm/fvwm-gray.png

Still, we all know what really counts is having quick access to the tools you use most often. ToolManager and ToolsDaemon are too bloated, left out icons should be enough for everyone! KingCON, however, is not optional.

https://datagubbe.se/amiga/sim_hi.png
added on the 2021-08-13 11:54:40 by grip grip
"xterm is bloated and unmaintainable. Here's an excerpt from the README:
Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here"
Cited from https://st.suckless.org/ . Have a look at their desktop manager dwm and st (simple terminal). I'm just too lazy and too busy coding other things at the moment. The plan for my next workstation is FreeBSD on ARM, and then I'll revisit all the cruft. Hope my current workstations (2009/2010) persevere for another 4-5 years.
added on the 2021-08-13 12:16:44 by bifat bifat
bifat: Good job keeping your gear in shape, mine is still young, from 2011. But can your editor play Tower of Hanoi? I think not.

grip: nano ❤ I wrote a lengthy text in it this week in a meeting. Used a sub-GHz netbook so I had to go bare bones.
added on the 2021-08-13 12:24:44 by El Topo El Topo
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dwm and st


Yeah, xterm is a hairy old beast but I haven't found a replacement that does what I want the way I want it to, yet. Bitmap font handling is excellent in particular, but also more esoteric things like displaying terminal graphics of various kinds.

I like the suckless' gangs approach to software philosophy, but st doesn't cut it and tiling wm:s aren't for me. Best stick to the things that has served me well since the early 90s: Amigas, fvwm and xterm. :)
added on the 2021-08-13 12:25:49 by grip grip
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and then I'll revisit all the cruft


Oh and I hope you realized I was joking around. To each their own desktop and editor, especially if they've coded it themselves!
added on the 2021-08-13 12:27:28 by grip grip
grip: Do you mean you have mastered the Tektronix emulation in xterm? Impressive :)
added on the 2021-08-13 12:40:46 by El Topo El Topo
Grip, I thought we were playing "I am more hardcore than u" :-)
El Topo, my editor can be made to play towers of Hanoi with a few lines of script, because it's all script, including the GUI. I bet that my editor is much much more scripted than emacs. The C core is twofold, a display driver (for X11, Windows, or whatever) and a string class to handle unicode, markup of all sorts, efficient insertion, deletion etc.
added on the 2021-08-13 12:43:24 by bifat bifat
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Do you mean you have mastered the Tektronix emulation in xterm?

Weeeeelll...... :D I mostly like that I can use w3m with images and display the occasional sixel.

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Grip, I thought we were playing "I am more hardcore than u" :-)

Well I mean, that's what the scene is about, isn't it? :)
added on the 2021-08-13 12:54:37 by grip grip
bifat: But-but... it's not Lisp! ;)
added on the 2021-08-13 17:17:28 by El Topo El Topo
When I want to do some Lisp, I can still write a script for the standard AmigaOS installer. :)
added on the 2021-08-13 17:22:29 by bifat bifat
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added on the 2021-08-13 17:32:04 by bifat bifat
Now we're talking! I remember the headaches I got from writing my first installer script :) But does it have E.G. cons, car and cdr?
added on the 2021-08-13 17:48:12 by grip grip
Now it's getting too hard for me. As I'm just a bedroom coder and wasn't forced to pass exams on this stuff, such intricacies have escaped me. There are symbolic expressions in later versions of the C= Installer. Then again, you might ask yourself why Lisp was used here in the first place. (It makes a lot of sense to me.)
added on the 2021-08-13 18:01:17 by bifat bifat
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I'm just a bedroom coder

That makes two of us. And although I've tried getting into Lisp, its oft-referenced elegance eludes me. I usually just see a boatload of parentheses. :)
added on the 2021-08-13 18:15:12 by grip grip
bifat, what's that assembler? or is it just a lua preprocessor for vasm or something?
hot multimedia: it's a commodore installer script.
added on the 2021-08-13 20:24:31 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
(i think)
added on the 2021-08-13 20:25:28 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
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is it just a lua preprocessor for vasm or something?

100% precise. I call it "DemoPHP", but of course it's not limited to assembler and demos.
added on the 2021-08-13 20:40:26 by bifat bifat
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Oupsie... I fail in my BBS searchbar skillz :-(

Nahhh, not true. Have you seen how many desktop gfx got lost? Good to revive the subject ;).
added on the 2021-08-13 23:28:22 by sim sim
Yeah, huge bitrot in there. Still some gems survived like the XP default screen and Optimus' alienz desktop.
added on the 2021-08-14 09:22:25 by El Topo El Topo
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nano ❤ I wrote a lengthy text in it this week in a meeting.

Nano is great for code and config files but for prose, check out wordgrinder. I use it all the time and I'm very happy with it.
added on the 2021-08-14 10:02:21 by grip grip

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