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So today is a great day for Amiga. Brand new game, Devil's Temple got released which has been in development for well over a year. I provided a large chunk of the soundtrack for it.

But it seems TRSI decided to release it on day zero. Best of all they requested a refund! Not sure what glory is being sought after or gained here as there isn't even any copy protection.

Congratulations, you are now the best looking guy in the burns unit.

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added on the 2022-10-21 18:07:56 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
correction... the refund was not requested, it was sent by the developer because they didn't want the money.
added on the 2022-10-21 18:15:02 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
On C64 the sport is to add trainers to the game. Did TRSI do this?
added on the 2022-10-21 19:45:48 by El Topo El Topo
Lol, tragic. Still wanting that 0 day clout on a platform solely supported by hobbyists and amateurs.
added on the 2022-10-21 20:50:41 by okkie okkie
Code:Best of all they requested a refund!


wow, this is the SHITTIEST move ever. I want names, who are the full of shit people who commited this ?
added on the 2022-10-21 23:14:47 by rez rez
Well - at least the cracktro was stellar, right? RIGHT?
added on the 2022-10-22 01:21:37 by Punqtured Punqtured
Lol.
Super super awkward from the TRSI team that is said to support our oldschool machines as much as we do...

Not sure to what extent the same happened to us on our Amiga game, but here are the fact:
- we worked +4 years on an atari st/amiga game with a friend of mine (ex-cryo Lead dev back in the day) :
- the game is released on physical support only (it comes with "feelies" you need to complete the adventure)
- there's a cracktro for the game (it isn't even copy protected, of course)

Not sure if our game was uploaded on a BBS, I'm too lazy to look for it and honestly, I don't care that much...

But, I don't know... is this was TRSI is about, in 2020+ ?
added on the 2022-10-22 09:37:40 by fra fra
Wow that really sucks big time. As most games are made by sceners or scene-related people nowadays, and you need to spend LOTS of your private time without earning any money to get a worthwhile result, it feels like their betrayed their own fellas.
added on the 2022-10-22 11:34:32 by neoman neoman
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- the game is released on physical support only (it comes with "feelies" you need to complete the adventure)


where can I buy it? I don't even own an amiga, but want to buy these games to support (and who knows, might get an amiga from somewhere to play them :D)
added on the 2022-10-22 12:42:22 by okkie okkie
yeah, I just bought the boxed version from that, but want to buy Fra's game as well. Gonna collect me some Amiga games and then possibly get an Amiga to play them lol
added on the 2022-10-22 12:54:32 by okkie okkie
@okkie : see the information In description: https://youtu.be/cQ5PBOixtOU
added on the 2022-10-22 13:00:03 by fra fra
ay thanks!
added on the 2022-10-22 13:07:59 by okkie okkie
I mean I'm all for keeping traditions alive, but it's sad that it's always somehow the worst ones.
added on the 2022-10-22 13:28:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
mmmh.

Code: _______________________ _ ____________________________________________ \__ _ \_ ________ \ // ______ _____ _ / _ / . ___ _ \ | _/ _/ ._)__ | \ ._\____ \ ._)__ \__/_ \__/ | \ _/ _/ | \ \_ ! \ ! \ | \ \ ! \ ! \ \ ! \ \ \_ l___\ /_______/______/ l__________/______/_______/___/_________/__\ / . \ / \ / | \/ [ I ? N ? C ? O ? R ? P ? O ? R ? A ? T ? E ? D ] \/ | . | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | TITLE OF THE GAME | ATHANOR II - THE LEGEND OF THE BIRDMEN | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | SOFTWARECOMPANY | (C) 2021 SAFAR GAMES | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | SUPPLIED BY | McFLY | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | CRACKE BY | N/A | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | TYPE OF GAME | ADVENTURE POINT & CLICK | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | LANGUAGE | ENGLISH/FRENCH | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | SYSTEM | AMIGA OCS/AGA | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | SIZE | 3 x DMS | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| | DATE | 20-AUG-2021 | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------| +---------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | T H E S L E E P I N G G O D S A R E B A C K I N T O W N | `---------------------------------------------------------------------'

Code: .---------------------------------------------------------------------. | | | *** I N S T A L L A T I O N I N F O R M A T I O N *** | | | | UNPACK WITH DMS TO DISK, | | OR PLAY DIRECTLY IN YOUR FAVORIT EMU | | | | *** I N F O R M A T I O N A B O U T T H I S R E L E A S E *** | | ATHANOR II - THE LEGEND OF THE BIRDMEN | | IS THE SECOND TOME OF THIS EXCITING TRILOGY. | | | | THE LEGEND CONTINUES... YOU'VE UNCOVERED THE MYSTERIES OF | | THE ABBEY IN ATHANOR I - THE AWAKENING - IT'S TIME TO EMBRAK | | ON A JOURNEY OF DISCOVERY AROUND THE WORLD, IN SEARCH OF | | YOUR ORIGINS. | | | | EXPLORE FOUR MAIN SETTINGS, MEET NEW CHARACTERS! | | AN ABUNDANCE OF PUZZLES AWAITS YOU. | | | | IN KEEPING WITH OUR TRADITION, YOU WILL FIND IN THE BOX | | NUMEROUS INTERACTIVE CLUES TO ACCOMPANY YOU JOURNEY! | | | | THE TEAM AT SAFARGAMES WISHES YOU MANY HOURS OF THRILLING | | ADVENTURE, AND DON'T FORGET - THE ATLANTEANS ARE WATCHING YOU... | | | | *** S Y S T E M R E Q U I R E M E N T S *** | | | | | | MINIMUM: AMIGA 500 WITH 1MB RAM | | | | | | | | -*-----------------------------------------------------------*- | | | | | | | `---------------------------------------------------------------------'

Code: .---------------------------------------------------------------------. | | | - -- --- W E S E N D O U R R E S P E C T S T O --- -- - | | | | | | QUARTEX, FAIRLIGHT, PRODIGY, LIGHTFORCE, CLASSIC, HOODLUM, LSD, | | PARADOX, BAD KARMA, ROYAL, RAZOR 1911, SKID ROW, SUNFLEX INC. | | ACCESSION - OLYMPUS - ORION - THE ORB | | | | | | - --*- C A U S E T H E Y A R E T H E T R U E -*-- - | | - -*- - H E R O E S O N A M I G A - -*- - | | | `---------------------------------------------------------------------'

Code: .---------------------------------------------------------------------. | | | >!!!$$$### L A S T C O M M E N T S ###$$$!!!< | | | |* THIS RELEASE IS DEDICATED TO ALL TRUSTY TRSi! BELIEVERS WORLDWIDE *| | * WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER !!! * | | * SUPPORT AMIGA ! IF YOU LIKE THE GAME BUY THE ORIGINAL ! * | | | `---------------------------------------------------------------------'


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added on the 2022-10-22 19:11:48 by fra fra
But you released it under RSI.. oh wait...
added on the 2022-10-22 19:24:47 by MooZ MooZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oCS85HvpY
added on the 2022-10-23 00:51:31 by Deleted Deleted
I, personally, do not take offense. The demo scene subculture has cracktro's as a foundatioal practice. That foundation fades as malware and digital distribution make redistribution of games practically impossible. However, I find it deeply reassuring when it occasionally resurfaces.

I haven't watched this cracktro, but it appears to be made with care and affection (judging by the nfo). This discussion is good publicity. I submit that the cracktro will ultimately be a net positive for the copyright holders, Safar Games. And let me add my voice to the crackers refrain:

IF YOU LIKE THE GAME BUY THE ORIGINAL
added on the 2022-10-23 13:56:07 by ig0r ig0r
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The demo scene subculture has cracktro's as a foundatioal practice.

As kb suggested on Discord earlier, maybe it's time to reframe that to "the demoscene was born when it STOPPED being cracktros", implying that the cracking thing was a hindrance.
added on the 2022-10-23 14:26:31 by Gargaj Gargaj
Is there an actual cracktro?
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(...)I haven't watched this cracktro, but it appears to be made with care (...)


Maybe... Industrial care, nonetheless (please click on the link & scroll down :)
added on the 2022-10-23 15:00:39 by fra fra
Slowclap TRSI.
Well done.

Cracktro infront of a non-protected game is kinda lame, besides the fact that developers on Amiga need all support they can get.

The claim "If you like the game, buy the original" is imho hypocrite in this case.

And Fra:
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But, I don't know... is this was TRSI is about, in 2020+ ?


Pretty much, yes.
added on the 2022-10-23 21:27:16 by _docd^hjb _docd^hjb
On a side note, it would be fun if it had some sort of copy protection to see how many days it would take them to break it. :P
added on the 2022-10-23 22:22:44 by Defiance Defiance

Nice game. Did not know it was already out.

I see it is a mix of the Vigilante (the character, enemies movements, as well) and Spartan X. Thus, should not IREM get their royalties as well, knowing the authors had such a solid inspiration from the original 1988 and 1984 (iIrc) games ;)?

Side (but important) note: Might be many of you do not know but there is a proto of Spartan X 2 ("Spartan X" is the original, japanese name of "Kung Fu Master"). The game has not been released and the PCB is in one of the author's hands =).

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On a side note, it would be fun if it had some sort of copy protection to see how many days it would take them to break it. :P

I second this good point. It would be really important (well, you still could copy the ADF file, so it would need some clever perhaps hologram/paper/puzzle copy protection included).
And surely would be more challenging, as well, I presume.
added on the 2022-10-24 09:17:01 by sim sim
Another thought.
I ask myself, WHO IS GONNA play the (pirated) game, these days.

Fathers? Mothers? Knowing nowadays we do not only have enuff time for ourselves, our family and etc? Knowing that parents do can can afford a nice, BOXed game and, if that's the case, show their kids how it was back in the days and make them feel like them in the past =).

Personally I would not even download one. Unless it is a boxed, Maupiti Island (or Monkey Island) styled game. Yes.

Personally I bought many original games (and sometimes buy) , I can not even play today (no computer nor floppy/cd medium).
So what... I bought because I liked, so called, "big box" edition. Sometimes with a nice poster (Pinbal Dreams, well, the poster is fugly, but well ;)...), a map Abandonned Places 2, Or Ultima series), sometimes coins (Ultima VIII: Pagan) or great scenario and AdLib music (Conquest of the Camelot, Conquest of the Longbow).

If I do not want to play or have a game, I do not buy neither download it. But still may / can give a spontaneous, symbolic support to the creative dudes (as I did many times via PPal).

Doing a game profitable is surely a challenge. Even more today. It is a risk now as it was in the past... Even bigger, cause it is more a... part-time hobby. I think noone should expect "from beds to millions" nowadays. It is a wrong approach. OK, even "from beds to hundreds"..;).
I presume, these creators, they as well, copied or downloaded games, mp3, movies... If they like it, have they bought what they liked (to watch, to listen)? I dare to think - not all. Simply, because it is impossible =).

All the best and let our project be profitable. Not only about the money, but about personal experience, as well.
added on the 2022-10-24 09:42:49 by sim sim

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