AI coding
category: residue [glöplog]
What I can see is that we're being joined and what I can see, in my own little echo chamber, is that a lot of people in the field (or creative computing) are starting to be bothered indeed.
I'm not saying this is the only way, but I often admitted to having no real power and/or agency, thumbing down a prod, protesting, and eventually burning one or two proverbial bins are my only outlets when not making one more song.
Only time will tell, and maybe – you know what – we can live like that.
I'm not saying this is the only way, but I often admitted to having no real power and/or agency, thumbing down a prod, protesting, and eventually burning one or two proverbial bins are my only outlets when not making one more song.
Only time will tell, and maybe – you know what – we can live like that.
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kaneel: I'm least bothered here, if you think about it. Just chillin' really. Enjoying the show.
You are not mad, you are laughing actually!
Tbf as a coder I have lot to lose on AI coding topic (subject of this thread), more than gfx and msx artists over here, which seems to be most vocal.
that guy who can't take a hint is keeping the cabal very busy
Can you give us an update on how the hat design is progressing?
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more than gfx and msx artists over here
the "artists" over here are supporting fellow programmers and some of us don't want to see the innovation done by real actors in the field of music software to lose their battles against the idiots who think everything should be free (granted they receive money from Big Tech Companies for doing whatever it is they're doing to advance the agenda)
Some of the "artists" over here also have to eat, play for roof and clothes, participate in society and have invested time into learning some of that coding thing for them to do that, it's not always just a hobby for them.
The "artists", again, over here, have friends who are artists, some of them in field already touched by this whole BS, we talk to them on the phone, they're afraid for their roofs.
The "artists", over here, have started families too, they are doing this thing where they want to protect offsprings and their future.
kaneel: all good, but it's offtopic. This is about AI coding.
Imagine 25 years of honing your C++/GLSL skills just to discover LLM can do it in a matter of minutes.
Tbf it always felt a bit like grunt work. It's not the problem AI can do it per se. The problem is the skill level required to steer AI is different. It's could be lower overall, but who knows - we have to yet to see how next-gen prompters will be using it.
Believe it or not, this tech will continue improving. Admitting this is not pushing anyone agenda. It's reasonable observation. And we need a reasonable solution for the demoscene.
My 5 cents is it might be good idea not to mix it with strictly no-AI prods. It's still possible, but it quickly might be very hard to compete against AI-assisted demo in all aspects.
Imagine 25 years of honing your C++/GLSL skills just to discover LLM can do it in a matter of minutes.
Tbf it always felt a bit like grunt work. It's not the problem AI can do it per se. The problem is the skill level required to steer AI is different. It's could be lower overall, but who knows - we have to yet to see how next-gen prompters will be using it.
Believe it or not, this tech will continue improving. Admitting this is not pushing anyone agenda. It's reasonable observation. And we need a reasonable solution for the demoscene.
My 5 cents is it might be good idea not to mix it with strictly no-AI prods. It's still possible, but it quickly might be very hard to compete against AI-assisted demo in all aspects.
You can watch Stockfish play against Leela Chess or some other engine, or you can watch a person play against an another person, or you can play the chess at your own level and enjoy the experience. For some reason people prefer the latter and I hope that people will prefer it in the scene as well. Because it was always about the people.
like performance enhancing drugs that get banned in pretty much every sport. so, just ban AI.
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You can watch Stockfish play against Leela Chess or some other engine
It's not exactly like this. In chess you have to follow Stockfish or you will lose, as you have no idea what is the Stockfish strategy in the following moves. So it's 100% machine.
While here you are essentially becoming a cyborg. A cybernetic mutant blending your own brain power with a machine in a ratio you want. People are yet to discover the optimal formula for the strongest results. Think of it as formula one racing. It's both: technology and human driver skills. It's a different race than running a marathon for sure. That's why it has to be a separate compo.
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kaneel: all good, but it's offtopic. This is about AI coding.
Just a reminder but all good.
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we have to yet to see how next-gen prompters will be using it.
We're being sold the prompts but I don't think it's the final solution for creative products, there are much better ways to steer and direct that chatting… (again, it feels like going behind a web developer and ask them to move shits left and right, it's taxing…)
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like performance enhancing drugs that get banned in pretty much every sport.
To be fair it's a constant back-and-forth "want to win" sort of thing. Cycling is calling, they have lost the war against drugs.
And for a lot of people who want to succeed in content farming, this means a lot… because if others are using AI to content-farm, this means they're losing money.
In the meantime, I'm still waiting to figure where to spend my scene points.
Is it coding ...
or is this fantasy
caught in a slopslide, no escape from anthropic
open your wallet, insert your details
and criiiiiiiiiiinge
and criiiiiiiiiiinge
I'm just a tech bro, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy slop,
easy prompt,
little to the left,
forget all instruuuuctions
easy prompt,
little to the left,
forget all instruuuuctions