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I've now read further into the Amiga scene part. I must say that at least the parts about the early years do contain many tiny errors and dubious statements, at a similar scale to what Viznut described (mostly details, that is). But I'll provide a full list of notable issues after I've completed reading the whole book. Before doing this, I must naturally also doublecheck my own sources on the same facts to avoid needless corrections and personal embarassment.. :)

Such lists are most welcome, as I said!

i just quickly browsed the book, but something caught my eye.. "1999 was a bad year for amiga demos" quite right, but still, klone by dcs should've been atleast mentioned, instead of beats :)

but that's just my opinion..

indeed, i really wondered why the "new" dcs was so badly ignored.

those are all puny details. everybody has a different perspective on things like this, and you can never fairly mention everything or mention everything totally correctly. i haven't read the book, and am honestly not very interested in the amiga scene at all, but well, this seems more like nitpicking than proper feedback if you ask me.

Well, let's hope for Tomcat that the book is going to sell so good that there is going to be a reprint, and then even the nitpicking like correcting spelling errors and minor mistakes will be useful :-)

I haven't read it either but I got a quick glance in it and what I saw was really impressive, I can't wait to get my own copy...

Skrebbel: actually, the book is good enough that the only real things he's going to get WILL look like nitpicking.

And, well, with all the errors in grammar and spelling (:

Norwegia, where they make ouijia boards!

1999 was a bad year for amiga demos? umm, no.

klone
beats
rain
concrete
smokebomb

..among others. 1999 was really a worse year for pc releases. 2000 on the other hand, was probably the low point for amiga.

It is already selling good enough to have a second edition soon. Some 300 copies have already been ordered, and we have only 1000.
For the Amiga in 1999, well, there were good demos - yeah, right, Klone is rightfully missed, I'll put it in the second edition - but generally, it was a year of declination, compared to, let's say, 1996 or so.

What is the ISBN for Freax, if it has one?

yeah, i was wondering aswell, since in my exemplar the isbn number field is left blank.

in book there is mentioned Dr. Vector as most famous musicians ? WTF ?

There is an ISBN number, but we left it blank because we printed the book in a hurry for Assembly. It will be applied as stickers later.

ISBN No.: 3-9810494-0-3

Why, what's wrong with Dr. Vector?

Tomcat - would you like a team of us who have the book to run thru it and suggest changes back to you for V2?

I figger, after this flu is over, if my apt is like, handled and all, I'll need some excuse to suggest people show up and bring me beer.

And what betterer thing than coming up with names like 'Frenchland', 'Österegg,' and 'Polskandanavia'!
(And actual, ya know, proper bits, like spellchecking and so on.)

Spellchecking is handled, thanks, but corrections - as I said - are welcome. Actually the readers are doing exactly what you proposed, running thru it and suggesting changes. Please join them.

:) hey tomcat, porsgrunn is in _norway_ not denmark (curious how a supposedly danish party should have prizes in norwegian crowns, now isn't it?)

i can also find nice mistakes like "in the late nineties the c-64 sceners had parties like breakpoint to go to". (edited quote).

and lots more, but i will just write a list when i'm done like everyone else :)

the thing truck is suggesting isn't a bad idea in itself. a bunch of people together can find more than one person alone, for sure (which the book itself clearly shows :)

and skrebbel, this aint really about nitpicking, it's about getting things right. if someone constantly wrote your name scrabble in a book that lots of people who never knew you would see, would you be happy? (trick question) or if they claimed the guy doing the tuna thing at scene event and breakpoint was actually dipswitch?

Hm, glitches happen. Well, that's life.
So, please everybody just list the factual errors and additions, along with the page numbers. I will collect them eventually. Until then, have a happy reading...

leia, correct. i was wrong :-)

indeed, dr. vector *should* be in the book. great if he's mentioned.

I have 9 ISBNs to spare, left over from creating Dark Domain. :)

You should create DD2, DD3, and so on... 9 sequels :)

ok

i finished the book. here comes some rant worthy of optimus. other details might or might not come in an updated emailed list later, but there are a few really "big" mistakes (although skrebbel might call them nitpicking) i want to go trough here, so others can note them and thus not be wrongly informed.

first off, about ephidrena, and their demo from the party 2000, titelled j (actually the name wasn't j, but this is the ascii letter looking the closest to what the name actually was, so it's been called j ever since).

the original memberlist of ephidrena is as follows: loaderror, cyberstarr, cheetah, stoney, zixaq and frequent. later this has been extended with only one member, nerve - their atari coder.

now then, in the text about j (page 206), zixaq is presented as a guest star of the group frequent, beep wrong, as i just said, they've both been in the group from the beginning. then the engine is said to be of a serbian coder - beep wrong again, note cyberstarr (nowadays jk or jaykay). last, the pictures in the background are said to be of loaderror, which is correct, and of pippin, which is incorrect, his name is pinocchio.

on we go. spaceballs are claimed to have made a comeback at tg99 (page 201), please note that they won the democompo at kindergarden 97 (with smurph) together with anadune (that is, two different demos. actually i counted the votes three times, first time anadune won, as this was "unheard of on a norwegian party" i had to count the votes again, then spaceballs won, but just in case i counted a third time and then it was a tie so i left it at that).

they also came second in the democompo at kindergarden98 with "the family robot".

while we're at it with the kindergarden stuff. the partyname is indeed written with a d and it's also in norway, not denmark. finally, the statement about there being no amigacompos at other than polish parties between asm98 and tp98 is wrong, there were plenty at kindergarden 98, which was held in november, and not in poland.

there are also some small mistakes about loonies, for example cybercinematastic also includes scenes from "lawnmover man", there's even a screenshot from the credits scene which is a free adaption of that movie (page 203). this however, is a smaller mistake ;)

being who i am i totally miss the mention of demoscene girls in the book, crusader girls are the only ones slightly mentioned along with a sentence that most people will read as "the only girls at demoparties are girlfriends and wives". wrong. me myself is a good example of that, i went to my first party (tg96) because i was interested in the demoscene, and NOT because of a guy (i wasn't even dating anyone back then). and there are plenty of others.

also, a bit more mentioning of 4k's would have been good. the main one left out is obviously ikanim, but also a bunch of ephidrenas 4k's (including the music disc) would have been worth a shot. i know 4k's are slightly mentioned, but seemingly the fact that there started to be "alone-standing" 4kintro compos is totally lost and could have been put more into focus.

guess that's it for now

reading trough my post i see that i missed two things, first of the fact that although the engine in j weren't written by cyborg, the display code was.

secondly, as a curiosity point, it should be noted that slummy of spaceballs also managed to somewhat "live of the demoscene", seeing how he created one fake group and also coded demos and intros for another group to make sure the demo- and introcompos at the gathering had enough entries. his winnings were then used to pay his rent, which was the main reason for doing this hard labour. slummy himself went to m/s and breakpoint during those years

pp isnt fakegroup ;(