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creative tracks in demos?

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I downloaded some of the latest released demos (that were all rated very good) and noticed, that all the demos have the same sound. It's some mix if techno fast/weired beat thing with some unmelodical bleeping..

Didn't dune/orange "invent" this kind of music and now that music stays the same over and over in the demos?

And: Could someone give me a few demos that have more creative tracks..?
I liked "fall equals winter" for example.. this one was great. Or also "Couloir 14".
"Please the cookie thing" was great too..

I mean a very few demos have really great music.. what do you think.. is it just me not liking the most music..?
added on the 2002-10-31 12:47:26 by phred phred
all the sunflower demos have good and melodic soundtracks too.
added on the 2002-10-31 13:05:16 by tomaes tomaes
spot on. most demo music blows. and no dune didnt invent the style, guys like a1 people, aphex twin and the likes did.
Dune was just one of the first to convert it to the scene.

i still need to see just 1 demo with a good dnb tune, but so far i havent seen any. They all seem to be stuck somewhere in 94/95 when doing dnb.
added on the 2002-10-31 14:24:44 by NoahR NoahR
Iblis: over here we call that shit 'jäätelömainosjunkka' ('ice-cream-commercial d'n'b') ;-)

I'd really like to hear more different styles of music in demos. It seems most ppl are more than content if the music is either scene-idm (thanks alot, lassi:D), psytrance (thankfully this isn't as common nowadays than it used to be) or some bastard fusion of various subcategories of electronic music which ends up sounding like pretty much nothing.

People should explore more. Do demos with 'pure' house, d'n'b, punk, ambient, new age, rock, blaskmetal, köln-techno, funk, electroclash, tribal, noise, industrial, gabber, jazz whatever... just don't be a blind follower of scene-'trends'...
added on the 2002-10-31 14:41:07 by uncle-x uncle-x
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this. The sound featured in most demos these days barely even qualifies as music.

But people will continue to "compose" this contemporary rubbish, simply because it's easy.

added on the 2002-10-31 15:07:54 by Wade Wade
yeah, uncle.. you are speaking out of my heart..!
It often seem like a coder is going to a musician: "please compose something" and the musician watching some late demos, computing the mean value and coming with a track that fits exactly in it..

Yeah, I'd like to hear some really orchestric sounds like John Williiams like or whatever.. just something NEW..
added on the 2002-10-31 15:09:19 by phred phred
try kolor stuff for dnb...
added on the 2002-10-31 15:14:00 by shiva shiva
and sotakone... Not a very good demo designwise but it does have a great d'n'b soundtrack by synteesi/mfx.
added on the 2002-10-31 15:28:44 by uncle-x uncle-x
phread: I second this for at LEAST 100% ....

Very good point! And I would really like to see (demo-)music turning into more variety and different melodic styles again...

I can't stand musch more of those low-noise filters and weird sounds anymore!

Of course it's fun to have it in a demo where the atmosphere fits perfectly...and once in a while it's ok of course...but _ONLY_ having those sounds/musics in a demo or a music-competition pretty SUCKS and doesn't show any real _creativity_ of musicians in this category to me... :-/

DO MORE CREATIVE MUSIC-TRACKS FOR DEMOS AND MUSIC-COMPETITIONS LIKE iN THE GOOD OLD DAYS AGAIN.... ;-)

Thanks...
added on the 2002-10-31 16:03:05 by Weasel Weasel
ooops...phread = phred of course! ;-D Sorry for that!
added on the 2002-10-31 16:03:46 by Weasel Weasel
There's some excellent early 80s breakdancing-type stuff in the Black Maiden demos.

And you can't go wrong with Vic's music either.
added on the 2002-10-31 16:06:50 by sagacity sagacity
People should explore more. Do demos with 'pure' house, d'n'b, punk, ambient, new age, rock, blaskmetal, köln-techno, funk, electroclash, tribal, noise, industrial, gabber, jazz whatever... just don't be a blind follower of scene-'trends'...

uncle-x, ABSOLUTELY my point !! that's what i'm trying to do when i do music, doing REALLIFE music, music that people would dance to in a dnb session. but not everyone seems to appreciate it...
added on the 2002-10-31 16:24:42 by dipswitch dipswitch
There's not a problem that i can't fix! - I can do it in the mix!
added on the 2002-10-31 16:29:28 by thorsten thorsten
i'd like to see a demo with a good industrial soundtrack one day. i know, it's all about taste, but good industrial = good musick, which would definately work great in a demo.
the same goes for darkambient. demos don't need driving audial elements. it's all a matter of how each part (mainly talking about the musick, the graphics aswell as the objects) of a demo is connected to eachother.

added on the 2002-10-31 16:43:49 by dalezr dalezr
My favorite recent demo soundtrack (if you want something not-idm):


http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3290
added on the 2002-10-31 17:46:42 by front243 front243
In my opinion, soundtracks don't get any better than these:

http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=3011

http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=3120

added on the 2002-10-31 17:58:57 by Wade Wade
"live evil' by Mandula has some different music, and it's even in the pouët.net top ten!
yeah live evil is really great. Though it\s a bit too experimental for my liking i have the deepest respect for the authors skills.

Uncle-X cant download the demo :(
hehe funny that...icecream jungle. :D

see...id like to see a tune in the class of dj reality "detroit blues" in a demo.

kolors stuff are simply too light. It not enough to take the badest bass in the world when the drums sound like they were played on a box of matches.

Besides i think scene dnb lacks basic funk elements, when people wanna make dnb "hard" it turn out very noisy and not very funky. To me dnb and techno are alike, its not a matter of speed and roughness, its a matter of combining them to be funky, and create a groove you wanna listen to for 5-8 min straight.

added on the 2002-10-31 19:17:34 by NoahR NoahR
wade...i DO NOT share your oppinion on music it seems, because those links....damn!!! =/
added on the 2002-10-31 19:19:13 by NoahR NoahR
i wish i was a musician and did all the dreams i have in mind
constrained,..if you have the idea get the gear and get started. Problem is, a lot of musicians have the gear but no idea.
added on the 2002-10-31 19:25:53 by NoahR NoahR
or maybe i wish i was a musician and made all my dreams about music become reality
iblis. i need to code the gears then i could write music
well what stops you?
added on the 2002-10-31 19:28:39 by NoahR NoahR
start with something easy like reason. you can make some pretty phat shit with that tool. after i got hold of ver.2 i hardly ever use hardware anymore. programmable LFO's and whatnot...*droool* I personally aint buyng as much as a "mr.keyboard for beginners" untill roland, yamaha and the likes offer me the same type of user options as reason. and the sound aint that much off from hardware generated sounds anyway...so...get started. :)
added on the 2002-10-31 19:32:01 by NoahR NoahR

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