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Should demoscene be explicit or P.C.?

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added on the 2017-05-10 06:48:57 by 1in10 1in10
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I see where the OP is coming from.

Years ago in the early 1990s, when my grandparents were in their 70s, I used to like showing them Amiga demos I'd recorded from home onto VHS tape and taken over to their house. My grampy was not one for popular culture "rubbish", as he called it, and the swirly patterns of lots of effects would make my nan's eyes "go funny", but they still watched them as "it was what their grandson was into". However, I had to be wary of porn in the Amiga demos of the time, and in one particularly offensive example of Amiga porn I had to cut it out of the VHS recording (some kind of blowjob or something). I forget which demo it was. Another example, the outline picture of a naked woman in Fairlight's Fullmoon I let slide, as it wasn't explicit, but my grampy wasn't there at the time.

Political Correctness is all pervasive these days, and the PC police would've had a field day with Amiga demos back in the day, but you can't blame the groups of the time for being full of horny teenagers, now can you?
added on the 2017-05-10 10:35:43 by Foebane72 Foebane72
Foebane72: there is a simple proven solution for that - ratings with appropriate sign. I think any content in demo should be allowed,as long, as rating sign is there.
added on the 2017-05-10 12:07:07 by tomkh tomkh
Rating based on which culture?

What is forbidden for e.g. a 16 year old kid in one country might be totally fine in another country for a 12 year old one. And vice versa (e.g. porn vs. violence in EU and USA).
added on the 2017-05-10 12:40:24 by JTZ JTZ
Don't feed the troll.
added on the 2017-05-10 13:14:14 by Gargaj Gargaj
"If you suffer from photosensitive epilepsy, please don't watch this demo again."
added on the 2017-05-10 13:39:31 by kb_ kb_
"the following demo may contain traces of dwarf"
added on the 2017-05-10 14:18:30 by Maali Maali
Should've done the following pages ago
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Also, there's a musical about this bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkXCsqJee0&list=PLjsE0Kv6JV3jw_sHSHcFug03yM m_uqJjS
added on the 2017-05-10 14:52:40 by d0DgE d0DgE
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there is a simple proven solution for that - ratings with appropriate sign.


In the "free" west censorship is called rating system not to disturb the ignorant masses.
As before please go with this route also but use the right word for it and don't pretend to do something else.
Let your inner nazi flourish.
added on the 2017-05-10 15:24:39 by 1in10 1in10
1in10: people sensitivity may vary. Some have no problems viewing hardcore material,while others simply feel disgusted or traumatized. Rating system is primarily to warn you, so as a senstive viewer you can make a decision to "turn around" if you don't want to expose yourself to disturbing scenes. It can restrict creativity, but only when overused i.e. some artistically pleasing depiction of human body is considered disturbing by the "censor", but in fact even very sensitive people would have no problem viewing/enjoying it. It's a compromise.
added on the 2017-05-10 15:38:05 by tomkh tomkh
rating system for demos? wow. now thats a new level of silly.

i suggest we involve the german BPjS then. they have some serious experience with rating computer generated content sensibly!
added on the 2017-05-10 15:45:30 by groepaz groepaz
Hello Kevin is marginalizing Catholics, because there is a vampire pope.
added on the 2017-05-10 16:19:28 by Optimus Optimus
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Who's the troll, Gargaj?
added on the 2017-05-10 16:45:51 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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I so know which category to suggest for next years meteoriks awards ;D
added on the 2017-05-10 16:52:30 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
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added on the 2017-05-10 16:57:01 by Maali Maali
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added on the 2017-05-10 17:13:02 by kb_ kb_
groepaz: simpler way would be to make a separate compo for "mature art". That also solves the problem of kids at the party - you just show it late, for example: after the demo compo.
added on the 2017-05-10 17:51:31 by tomkh tomkh
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groepaz: simpler way would be to make a separate compo for "mature art". That also solves the problem of kids at the party - you just show it late, for example: after the demo compo.


Somehow I feel that's going to attract the absolute worst, if anything at all. No thanks, let's not separate it.
i dont see the problem at all - normally the (demo) compos are so late, the law already solves the problem. if unresponsible parents choose to still keep their kids there - entirely their fault.
added on the 2017-05-10 19:18:20 by groepaz groepaz
added on the 2017-05-10 21:05:45 by Deus Deus
Ban degenerate demoscene art!
Think of the children!
added on the 2017-05-10 21:40:44 by Frost Frost
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Don't feed the troll.

Who's the troll, Gargaj?


I'm not Gargaj, but I've figured it out!
There are no real trolls here, but pretty much everyone posting on this thread is on a troll-spectrum.
Posting and getting response stimulates dopamine production in your brain and simply makes you happy ;)
added on the 2017-05-10 22:23:32 by tomkh tomkh
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