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ok time to stop pissing around
i have these visuals and want to animate them realtime
and i am not sure
1. i can animate them in character studio and render the frames
2. someone here might have made some kind of realtime engine which is easyish to use (i have downloaded weerkseuug thing but it wont run with my cards and i will need a copy of softimage)
3. i have a friend who has offered to teach me programming but we're twiddling our thumbs wondering if it is worth the massive amount of time
4. someone might like to do it already and use the visuals

not sure which way to go or which way to go or to go
here are the visuals
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the sides of the head are seperate and pull out legs from the read backbone as below
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here the alien would be able to run

below is the transformer toy which transforms into a seal with bucket :)
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i want the symbol below to be able to transform into many things perhaps and i think this is where i or someone needs to make a program dedicated just to the one symbol
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with variable option below is smiley shit which i wants to make bounce around
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thoughts much appreciated about where to go with this lot
cheers

added on the 2007-08-11 15:33:36 by seel seel
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where to go with this lot


hehe
added on the 2007-08-11 15:36:05 by forestcre forestcre
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where to go with this lot


Away.

sigh, I'm feeding the troll again...
added on the 2007-08-11 15:44:06 by Preacher Preacher
OMG some of u lot are really constipated arent you
cant i just give some sound sensible advice for once!!
FISP
added on the 2007-08-11 15:47:01 by seel seel
if i dont get help here and keep it freeware etc
then i will have to go commercial and put up a job posting at scene.org or with a film company or NHS or just fucking struggle to do without help
added on the 2007-08-11 15:49:43 by seel seel
i like the robot
added on the 2007-08-11 16:27:11 by the_Ye-Ti the_Ye-Ti
I'm not really sure what you want to achieve. Do you want to make program displaying the animations, do you need to flatten them to video/gif for web? Why not use flash if you want to drop them onto the interwebs?
added on the 2007-08-11 16:38:13 by raer raer
thanks the_ye_ti
kinda like version 1 the first one isnt it
reminds me of the schwartznegger terminator where he is the older version....
i reccon it should all fold up ok in 3D
it is highly improbable that maybe it might become fully working to engineer spec and in 3D i think shiny metal will look nice
added on the 2007-08-11 16:41:18 by seel seel
rare fluid: no thats not a problem i can animate and flatten
what i wants is the engine that will make the image transform and move....like a tool program...maybe the cirie symbol can BE the engine that other models could be assigned to even....
added on the 2007-08-11 16:44:16 by seel seel
transform == blend / move / wtf? Blend one logo into another?
If you split the images into parts (robot head/feet/...) you can animate them with directx/opengl/werkkzeug or even flash.
Sry if I don't get whant you're aiming at. I'd probably better shut up ;)
added on the 2007-08-11 17:29:39 by raer raer
seel, why people are dissing:

with each thread you start (and often on some replies to threads), you always sledgehammer the same graphics and words and mottos into what you're trying to say. its sort of like you're obssessed with your stuff and you have to bring it in everywhere. people find this uncomfortable, because they don't understand what the meaning behind it is, you never explain anything satisfactorily. you say that you're a poor boy who became a millionaire and you're helping ghetto kids to become rich too through some kind of strange website. there are a lot of inconsistencies in what we see, because here are a bunch of sceners making new stuff for free, and here are you (+backstory) pasting the same messages and 'products' round and round. the other issue is of course that it all smells a little corporate, like you hope every little gem of yours is going to make you a tidy profit. i even remember when you tried to mate your logo with some sort of eastern zen message plus pop-psychology... what the hell? is it a corporate image or are we supposed to believe that CIRIE is some kind of immensely powerful jungian archetype that bonds man since his birth to both the secrets of his mind and the cosmos? why not a circle or a square or something that doesn't actually spell a word in the standard roman alphabet?

to summarise, every time you post, we get the uncomfortable feeling that you're trying to advertise something even where it is irrelevant. it is irrelevant to the topic that you actually *show* us the pictures you have in mind. it required your time and energy to add the BB code to add them to your question, hence you have some ulterior motive. something lies beyond your actual question, and that makes people uncomfortable.

if you want a straight answer, ask a straight question. try it in a fresh post. try:
"hi guys, do you know of a way to X Y, or a X tool that'll create Y. or would somebody like to work on it with me?"

then you'll most likely get an answer, because people aren't shit scared you're trying to brainwash them with stuff that makes no sense anyway.
added on the 2007-08-11 22:28:33 by forestcre forestcre
Thanks forest

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are we supposed to believe that CIRIE is some kind of immensely powerful jungian archetype that bonds man since his birth to both the secrets of his mind and the cosmos? why not a circle or a square or something that doesn't actually spell a word in the standard roman alphabet?


yes something like this
i dont consider it to be 'my' creation, it just 'is'
i know about it because i started off life at 16 as a publisher
so i feel it is my duty in life to publish it wether it makes money or not is not a concern for me...if it did make money it would goto charity because this is the nature of it...

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f you want a straight answer, ask a straight question. try it in a fresh post. try:
"hi guys, do you know of a way to X Y, or a X tool that'll create Y. or would somebody like to work on it with me?"


yes i am trying to do this from the start
i have tried getting people interested in the past but you are right it always goes wrong because people think i have an alterior motive
so this post is my final attempt to explain what it is i am trying to do

i want an engine/tool to make it move
perhaps a program that gives options to sellect 'what the symbol is' and therefore how it will move and react
if it is an application or opensource then others could use it for their own models/props
i have explained at the start of the thread the options i have about this

as far as money goes and if it will be commercial
i dont know at this point if it would ever be commercial...for sure i know if money was involved at any point it would be for charity and a good cause such as fighting poverty
however my reason for trying to get this thing moving is just purely for the hell of it...i dont know why i want it to move i am just obsessed





added on the 2007-08-12 14:09:15 by seel seel
mainly i want to make demo's with these characters
just for the hell of it
it does mean alot to me and i can explain how it can help manking in the demo's
like i might make the alien chase all the politicians and eat them :)))
added on the 2007-08-12 14:18:13 by seel seel
also
the smiley shit and cirie symbol is 'i' character for i and i not 'my' character
so anyone can use it and dont have tho thank 'me'
praise jah for all things

also
i think there is some wisdon in the symbol in that
it might help us all to make 'the best' engine for realtime character animation or perhaps might contain the wisdom for some new programming language such as visual c

anyway i'll stop rambling now
thanks for listening
added on the 2007-08-12 14:25:35 by seel seel
I like the alien thing.
added on the 2007-08-12 14:37:02 by Optimonk Optimonk
feel free to use it optimus
when i get a new pc i will make some .DXF models of it or other format u need DXF seems to be the most multi compatible with most programs
or feel free anyone to beat me to it if u feel like it

added on the 2007-08-12 14:49:59 by seel seel
rare fluid: thanks for that
i hope to get werkkseaug working soon with a new pc
and i will have a play then
your post made me look at it again and i see in the werkkseug tutorial there are BONES so now i am hopefull !!!
i am not sure if it will be substantial enough to acheive what i want in the end...but well atleast it will be in the right direction and i will be getting somewhere
i am very excited about getting started with it myself or seeing what others might do with the concept
i hope one day to have an application solely built aound the OIC concept (visual CI)
eg
CIrIe = arm or leg or hand or finder etc
therefore C=hand or foot or fingernail
select

or

0 = wheel, planet, etc etc etc

maybe there is something here?
or maybe it is stupid idea?

anyway hopefully i get new pc soon and can get started
sorry about previous posts i was hoping some people might get interested in 'it' as a concept.../ or hobby sort of thing
it does not belong to me it is just basic visual binary 0I C
added on the 2007-08-12 21:00:43 by seel seel

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