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I need to be fit. Any suggestions?

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I could try using it as anal lube. Or finding someone with thrush, pouring the beer on it and holding a war of the yeasts. Or cook it down into a syrup and use that on flypaper. Or capture all the carbon dioxide it gives off, turn it into carbonate and bury it in concrete thousands of metres underground to off set it's carbon footprint. Or...
added on the 2014-03-25 08:48:56 by ringofyre ringofyre
Perfume. So. Simple.
added on the 2014-03-25 10:08:48 by raer raer
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Losing weight is difficult. You really ought to see to it that you do not gain weight at first place. However, once you have gained a lot of weight, it is too late.


This does make a sense, even though it's never too late.
But it does make sense in the fact that normal healthy thing is to regulate weight, not loose it frantically. But since I was in an unhealthy state already one has to do sacrifices. If I was near my ideal weight maybe +-3 or 5, then one could do some little changes for short time and not bother much.

I don't like gym because it seems like wasting time and energy. But I do walk, I do like it when I can. Even when taking the metro I do 20 minutes to reach it and reach work everyday. And I was doing some months ago the long road to work, which was 40minutes and with 20 minutes back, and this had slight results (but with not being able to control food, not always). I stopped because of my knees and also the cold. I will start again.

Also, some time ago I tried going to gym and it was frantic. I did it for 3 months. Maybe 4 days of the week (because the program was crazy, over 1 hour, 20 minutes cardio, then weight). I don't know if I ate more because of this (I don't think so) but I saw no results. And I thought, maybe it is because I gained weight in muscle. I was surprise because in the past I did much less gym in stationary bicycle for 20 minutes per day, and it helped a bit (but still not much if you also don't change food habit) and so I thought frantic gym will definitelly help. Then I quit.
added on the 2014-03-25 11:08:44 by Optimonk Optimonk
I mean over 1 hour total, 20 cardio + the rest on weights.
added on the 2014-03-25 11:10:15 by Optimonk Optimonk
It's never too late to lose weight. What you need is a super strong "will". If you don't really want it, you will be too lazy and nothing will happen. If you really want it (when I lost weight, my 7 year relationship just ended for example) then it won't be a problem.

Key is exercise (imho nothing too fancy / outrageous. Whatever pleases you and cointains actually "moving") and eating almost "nothing" the first few weeks followed by exercise and eating normally / healthy.

And don't look too much at the scale, for it's deceiving (imho). Important is, if you feel better. I was totally amazed, how much better I already felt, with just a little bit of kilos less (and some excercise).

Well, that's at least, how it worked for me.
added on the 2014-03-25 11:19:26 by elend elend
try commuting with a bycicle. then your commuting time is converted into excersize, and if your job is not too far away, you dont even lose time. win-win.
added on the 2014-03-25 11:31:00 by Oswald Oswald
Yeah, try to go / bike / swim everywhere possible. It's incredible, how much excercise you'll get this way, without it really feeling like excercise / tiresome. Just get up and DO stuff. Most important thing ever.

Oh and fuck sodas. Holy shit this stuff is the devil.
added on the 2014-03-25 11:40:42 by elend elend
just smoke lots of weed. works for me =P
added on the 2014-03-25 11:48:17 by groepaz groepaz
One thing people don't pay enough attention to is speed (not the drug ;). Quick thought experiment:

- You walk say 1 mile to work (or the metro or whatever) in 20 minutes. You burn 50 calories.
- Instead, you could run, and do the same mile in 10 minutes. You save 10 minutes, and you burn 100 calories.

So you can burn a lot more energy doing the exact same stuff faster. Running to work is maybe a bit extreme (unless you have a shower there ;) but the point is: if you walk faster, you'll burn more energy and save some time.

Quite often you'll see a couple of similar people, and they'll complain that the fatter one eats less than the thinner one and does more exercise, yet is fatter, and they blame it on metabolism or whatever. In reality, it's almost always the case that the fatter one eats more, or the thinner one just does everything a bit faster and burns more energy during the day.

One of my mum's friends was like this, she always did everything quickly, always ate chocolate and biscuits, never put on weight. Then she had a foot operation, couldn't move much for a few months, put on a lot of weight ;)
added on the 2014-03-25 12:05:19 by psonice psonice
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- You walk say 1 mile to work (or the metro or whatever) in 20 minutes. You burn 50 calories.
- Instead, you could run, and do the same mile in 10 minutes. You save 10 minutes, and you burn 100 calories.


Strange, but I heard opposite theories from gym instructors, like the speed doesn't matter, it's the same at the end.
added on the 2014-03-25 12:57:53 by Optimonk Optimonk
I don't say these things could not be true, but they are anecdotes and there are more parameters that might not be visible here. I know, I might still excusing and buying into the theory that it's not that the fatter person does not do things correctly.

There is a thing, some people are naturally faster with more spontaneous movements. I am a slow person, sluggish, in my everyday life. But this is who I am. I was diagnosed with hypothyreodism but it's not sure, some doctor couldn't find it, other did and I took some drugs for it. But doesn't seem to help.
added on the 2014-03-25 13:01:21 by Optimonk Optimonk
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Strange, but I heard opposite theories from gym instructors, like the speed doesn't matter, it's the same at the end.


No, that's not true - although in a gym, it might end up the same so I can imagine why a gym instructor might say it.

You'd likely burn 2x more calories running the same distance compared to walking. But in a gym, it's more like running slowly or running fast. Running fast burns more calories, but you get tired fast and stop. Running slow, you run further. So less calories burned * longer distance, you end up with a similar number of calories in the end.

If you're walking to work though, the distance is fixed. The faster you move, the more calories you burn. Apply that to everything you do in the day (even getting out of your chair and walking to the toilet :) and it adds up.
added on the 2014-03-25 13:07:19 by psonice psonice
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The faster you move, the more calories you burn

I'm not actually that sure about this. Take your basic high school physics: W = P*t, work done equals power multiplied by time. If you double the power (move twice as fast) and thus halve the time, you still spend the same amount of energy. But of course, outside such textbook simplifications it's a lot more complicated in real life and the body's response depends on a lot of things and most likely is not quite linear.
added on the 2014-03-25 13:24:14 by Preacher Preacher
Walking vs. running, calories burned (with links to some actual research on the subject): http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/running-v-walking-how-many-calories-will -you-burn

Walking faster won't get you the same calorie burn as running of course, but you'll burn more walking fast than walking slow, and you'll save time doing it :) (Plus it won't make you desperate for a big kebab to replace the lost calories like a run does!)
added on the 2014-03-25 13:25:20 by psonice psonice
mmmh big kebab
added on the 2014-03-25 13:34:52 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
preacher: yes, but with say running, you also move your arm up and down, against both gravity and momentum. Doing that faster requires more energy.
added on the 2014-03-25 13:43:02 by psonice psonice
Yeah, that's why I said that it's not that simple. The link you posted seems to indicate otherwise as well. My ex is doing her Ph.D on medicine on this stuff, I could ask her what she thinks :)
added on the 2014-03-25 13:47:51 by Preacher Preacher
it'd be interesting to hear what she thinks :)

I suspect it's like a car: there's an optimum speed for fuel efficiency. Too fast or too slow and you get less efficient.. except as humans we want to do that to lose weight :D

(And yes, I think moving TOO slowly also burns more energy - try walking up stairs very slowly for example, you soon know your muscles are burning a lot of energy just holding your position half-way between steps ;)
added on the 2014-03-25 14:08:26 by psonice psonice
Maybe she saw I was fat, and thought for two reasons, need to burn more fat (I read slower heart rate burns more fat but less carbs, and the opposite) and to not injure myself.
added on the 2014-03-25 14:09:26 by Optimonk Optimonk
I think I will try weightwatchers in my area. Soon I hope.
added on the 2014-03-25 14:12:00 by Optimonk Optimonk
I really enjoy kebab without meat, but with falafel instead btw.
You can't be sure if that's meat in that turning lump of stuff behind the counter anways...
added on the 2014-03-25 14:19:20 by raer raer
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I think I will try weightwatchers in my area. Soon I hope.


What is holding you back to do it now? Call them up *NOW* and start working on yourself!
added on the 2014-03-25 14:24:50 by okkie okkie
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I think I will try weightwatchers in my area. Soon I hope.


What is holding you back to do it now? Call them up *NOW* and start working on yourself!
added on the 2014-03-25 14:25:59 by psonice psonice
Yeah, yeah, I'll do now. No prob with that. I just need to ask for information and also I will leave very soon for eastern holidays and come back later. I think it would somehow work because they have easier way to keep track and hold meetings.
added on the 2014-03-25 14:29:52 by Optimonk Optimonk
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Walking vs. running, calories burned (with links to some actual research on the subject): http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/running-v-walking-how-many-calories-will -you-burn

Walking faster won't get you the same calorie burn as running of course, but you'll burn more walking fast than walking slow, and you'll save time doing it :) (Plus it won't make you desperate for a big kebab to replace the lost calories like a run does!)


If someone is really heavy, running may fuck up his knees.
Weight training with very light weight, as many reps as possible ( 3-4 sets no rest in between) for every muscle group per workout will get you lean quicker than running.
added on the 2014-03-25 17:53:17 by Forcer Forcer

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