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- 4k JavaScript DQ02: it's complicated
- @sim
Quote:It is really intersting how you defend the AI productions...
Oh, I'm not. At all.
I just wanted to speak out against the overly hostile and rude attitude towards anything that smells like AI, especially to newcomers.
And then somehow (or inevitably?) it turned into an endless AI-discussion, again.
All I wanted to say was
"Keep it civil, people, no need to throw shit around"
Doing "something" is already infinite better than doing nothing, even if it's crap.
Totally fine to thumb down if you don't like it.
And if it's a new account, say why, instead of the endless "slop, glöp, fart, puke, shit" replies.
There. I'll shut up now. - isokadded on the 2026-11-12 16:57:43
- 4k JavaScript DQ02: it's complicated
- @4gentE
Quote:Why do you think anybody would shift from "all AI" to "all himself" with passing of time?
Because people gravitate towards authenticity, and recognise it.
In other productions but also in their own work.
My first "productions" when I was 14 was changing the scrolltext in some bootblock intro and copying ripped images into some demomaker.
Ok, I did not release that, obviously, but I still had a feeling of "hey! that worked! I did a thing! Let's do that again, but better"
Deep down, you obviously knew using demomakers was lame, but the skills for more were not there yet.
Same with AI: people using it, know it's lame, and fake.
So, or they quit after some time because doing fake stuff gets boring fast, or they learn from it, move on and find a more full-filling way.
Because, in the end, why do we keep creating demoscene releases? For fame and glory? Naah, because it's fun and full-filling, and using AI takes that away in the end.
Yeah, I know I'm naïve, am a Sundays-child and see the world through rose coloured glasses. Good times, though.
anyway - prod comments are not the place for long teary-eyed proza.
(again, better over a beer) - isokadded on the 2026-11-12 12:15:24
- 4k JavaScript DQ02: it's complicated
- @deadquiet42
Quote:I apologise for disrespecting the scene; I'm out. Peace.
You did not disrespect the scene, the scene disrespected you.
We should welcome new people instead of acting like elitist twats.
You clearly have a keen eye for design, so I hope you continue.
And yeah, after a learning curve, you'll find that the more you shift to "all you" and away from AI, the more rewarding it gets. - rulezadded on the 2026-11-12 11:13:09
- intro Amiga OCS/ECS Grab the Copper by the Possey by Tuesday Coders Club [web]
- @4gentE
Ok then, hugs for you as well.
Did we ever meet? I don't think so.
You seem like a reasonably smart person. Apparently we don't agree and I am - without any irony - interested to get to know why you see things like you do.
Let's have a beer together at some demoparty. - isokadded on the 2026-11-11 21:04:01
- intro Amiga OCS/ECS Grab the Copper by the Possey by Tuesday Coders Club [web]
- Quote:
how exactly is paying an AI with tokens to code a demo for you any different?
Yes, it's a lame tool.
Equally lame as paying for Notch?
Certainly coding your own effects is way cooler (it is!)
Paying for Photoshop?
Certainly making your own graphics editor is way cooler (it is!, or better, learn how to draw with paper and pencil)
Paying for for Ableton Live or FL Studio?
Certainly making your own music engine is way cooler (it is! Or even better, learn how to play a real instrument)
My point is: it's just a tool. Yes, a lame one, but still a tool.
Shit in, shit out.
In the hands of skilled and creative people, it can really improve the results (as the recent C64 demos of e.g. Extend show)
People should disclose what tool was uses briefly, then people can give their thumb up or down, and move on.
But this overly priggish negativity towards AI is just getting annoying, boring and it's hurting the scene more than any AI every could.
(All IMHO ofcourse)
P.S. hugs to @dipswitch, of course, sorry to hijack this thread. - isokadded on the 2026-11-11 18:48:37
- intro Amiga OCS/ECS Grab the Copper by the Possey by Tuesday Coders Club [web]
- Enough with all the negativity, people ...
This is just a group of retro-computer enthousiasts having some fun.
Yes, it's low effort, but it does not claim to be anything else.
The compo rules clearly stated that "The use of AI with subtle support is permitted." and AI usage is mentioned in the scroll text.
If you don't like it, that's fine, but don't take away the joy of the creators.
At least the scrolltext feels personal, is honest, and shows some understanding of what the code is doing.
If AI helps non-coders to explore the platform and the compo rules allow it, why would there be a reason to give them shit for it? - rulezadded on the 2026-11-11 14:31:35
- demo Commodore 64 Sine Fiction by Charged [web]
- I'm going to give a "thumbs up" for at least being honest about how this was made. Something that other productions often lack, IMHO.
- rulezadded on the 2026-11-08 17:18:55
- demo JavaScript LOL FUCK AI by xplsv [web]
- I like it.
Nothing wrong with stirring up things once in a while.
At least it was sending out love instead of fckings :-) - rulezadded on the 2026-10-16 15:16:17
- 64k Amiga OCS/ECS Blueberry 50 by Amiga Birthday Committee
- Happy BlueDay!
Free drinks at your place ! - rulezadded on the 2026-10-13 16:35:35
- demo Amiga OCS/ECS Spooky Town by Ghostown
- OCS Baby!
Deep deep bow.
Truly a "pick your jaw back up" moment. - rulezadded on the 2026-08-31 07:12:42
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